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[thegoatman]

Surprised Loyola wasn't up there. I've seen that University of Chicago is a top 10 school WORLDWIDE. very impressive

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

Surprised Loyola wasn't up there.

Loyola University is there on the list at #115, tied with Creighton.

[lakeshoredrive]

It will be great to see UIC continue to expand their campus with new buildings, both on the east and west campus.

[lakeshoredrive]

It's kind of bittersweet that this is the only building going up that is over 800 feet tall. Is it the end of this very long cycle? If so, then I hope the next cycle will be a great one with multiple buildings over 800 feet. Hopefully a supertall too.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by lakeshoredrive

It's kind of bittersweet that this is the only building going up that is over 800 feet tall. Is it the end of this very long cycle? If so, then I hope the next cycle will be a great one with multiple buildings over 800 feet. Hopefully a supertall too.

800 feet ain't much in Chicago but at least it's good for the neighborhood.

How common is it as far as cycles go for proposals to carry over? I'm starting to think this is Chicago's last skyscraper for a while and doubting that any of the others will start anytime soon. But I'm also wondering if they can stay on the back burner and get built 5-10 years from now.

[OhioGuy]

Pretty sweet drone video from the Cubs! It's not at all your typical drone video. So cool!

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[maru2501]

still waiting for 600 w randolph

[thegoatman]

Really want 400 LSD to start. That massive hole right in front of the city is embarassing.

Other cities continue to pump out skyscrapers and supertalls, why can't Chicago, the home of the skyscraper?

[Steely Dan]

^ because these things work in cycles.

and chicago is starting to come out of one of its biggest big-tower cycles ever.

unless, of course, one of those big towers currently on the drawing boards gets financed.

[lakeshoredrive]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

^ because these things work in cycles.

and chicago is starting to come out of one of its biggest big-tower cycles ever.

unless, of course, one of those big towers currently on the drawing boards gets financed.

I guess with how the raised rate and the financial market is going, the demand for residential and office space, and the state of politics in the US, I think it will be awhile until we get a new cycle

[lakeshoredrive]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

Really want 400 LSD to start. That massive hole right in front of the city is embarassing.

Other cities continue to pump out skyscrapers and supertalls, why can't Chicago, the home of the skyscraper?

Well isn't office demand lower as of now? I know there are some office high rises being built in fulton market, but an actual skyscraper like Salesforce Tower is probably not going to happen for awhile.

Residential skyscrapers could still happen, but you would think with the strong job market here in Chicago and perhaps the city being a little bit more affordable than NYC and LA would attract more people to move here. That would spur more residential high-rises to be built which seem to be concentrated in Fulton Market at the moment.

[Chisouthside]

This is a weird cycle because i dont perceive the hard stop of the cycle crashing in 2009. What if the pandemic was the pause between cycle and now we are actually in a new cycle?

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[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

Really want 400 LSD to start. That massive hole right in front of the city is embarassing.

Other cities continue to pump out skyscrapers and supertalls, why can't Chicago, the home of the skyscraper?

On one hand we've had some pretty awesome projects this cycle but unfortunately on the other some of the coolest proposals never seem to have made it. Proposals are never a guarantee anywhere, I guess. Even in NYC or in Asia.

I see your point though, I get frustrated when some random 3rd world city can build a 400+ meter tower but anywhere outside of NYC seems to struggle in the US with decently tall buildings (with a few exceptions).

^ because these things work in cycles.

and chicago is starting to come out of one of its biggest big-tower cycles ever.

unless, of course, one of those big towers currently on the drawing boards gets financed.

Chicago seems to be coming out of a cycle, that's why I asked if projects ever carry over or if developers ever hold onto a site for ~10 years. I would think they wouldn't but who knows...

Maybe in better times we'll finally see Tribune / Parcel I / 400LSD / 78 site see the light of day. Or maybe, crazy enough, we'll see new very tall proposals.

[lakeshoredrive]

Originally Posted by Zapatan

On one hand we've had some pretty awesome projects this cycle but unfortunately on the other some of the coolest proposals never seem to have made it. Proposals are never a guarantee anywhere, I guess. Even in NYC or in Asia.

I see your point though, I get frustrated when some random 3rd world city can build a 400+ meter tower but anywhere outside of NYC seems to struggle in the US with decently tall buildings (with a few exceptions).





Chicago seems to be coming out of a cycle, that's why I asked if projects ever carry over or if developers ever hold onto a site for ~10 years. I would think they wouldn't but who knows...

Maybe in better times we'll finally see Tribune / Parcel I / 400LSD / 78 site see the light of day. Or maybe, crazy enough, we'll see new very tall proposals.

I think Parcel I design will stay the same when it's eventually built. But 400 LSD and Tribune are up in the air. It's a bummer because I really hoped Tribune East would've had a great chance of being built due to St. Regis and the renovation at Tribune going well.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by lakeshoredrive

I think Parcel I design will stay the same when it's eventually built. But 400 LSD and Tribune are up in the air. It's a bummer because I really hoped Tribune East would've had a great chance of being built due to St. Regis and the renovation at Tribune going well.

I don't see Parcel I on their website but maybe not everyone posts proposals.

Tribune is beyond depressing if the rumors are true, 400LSD hole is a total gap and needs to be filled. While the project is underwhelming by Chicago's standards it's better than nothing, although I get sick of accepting mediocrity.

[Steely Dan]

Originally Posted by Zapatan

400LSD hole is a total gap and needs to be filled. While the project is underwhelming by Chicago's standards it's better than nothing, although I get sick of accepting mediocrity.

I'm actually quite enamored with the "cascading waterfall" design of the current 400 N LSD twin tower proposal.



It's nothing close to mediocre in my eyes.

[Chi-Sky21]

If everything at the mouth of the river gets built CLOSE to planned i would be very pleased. I like the designs. The Tribune site though is THE most important...that needs to be built same as they said. That in that spot just changes EVERYTHING for our Skyline. I love that design.

[thegoatman]

i'm afraid the tribune plan gets cancelled and they instead build some generic garbage 600 ft glass residential tower there instead

[left of center]

Originally Posted by thegoatman

i'm afraid the tribune plan gets cancelled and they instead build some generic garbage 600 ft glass residential tower there instead

I am still hopeful, although what you mentioned seems to happen more often than not when these larger projects languish. Let's hope the developers keep the plans they have and execute it in the next economic expansion... assuming a recession is coming. maybe. this economy is weird af.