Federal Government & Politics II - Page 160

76samian · #**3181** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

It's interesting how most of the convoy participants and supporters are unemployable slobs who refused vaccinations and believe in wild conspiracies.

That's just an ignorant and angry statement.
Every person I know that attended the protest was employed or had lost their employment due to the workplace vaccine policy ( I work at a hospital and witnessed co workers lose their jobs after working through the entire pandemic ) They have every right to be upset and voice their opinion via protest.

MolsonExport · #**3182** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 6:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by 76samian

That's just an ignorant and angry statement.
Every person I know that attended the protest was employed or had lost their employment due to the workplace vaccine policy ( I work at a hospital and witnessed co workers lose their jobs after working through the entire pandemic ) They have every right to be upset and voice their opinion via protest.

Wasn't it the Americans who implemented and enforced the policy?

Acajack · #**3183** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 6:36 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

Was that all that happened? Really?

Save the children!!

CTV

You remind me of a previous SSP member.

Still doesn't look like property damage to me.

WarrenC12 · #**3184** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 6:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by 76samian

That's just an ignorant and angry statement.
Every person I know that attended the protest was employed or had lost their employment due to the workplace vaccine policy ( I work at a hospital and witnessed co workers lose their jobs after working through the entire pandemic ) They have every right to be upset and voice their opinion via protest.

Check who I was replying to. If you couldn't detect the sarcasm in my post, well...

Build.It · #**3185** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 7:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

Check who I was replying to. If you couldn't detect the sarcasm in my post, well...

Your sarcasm doesn't make the observation wrong though.

I'd probably be pro-incumbent too if my livelihood depended on it.

WarrenC12 · #**3186** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 7:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Build.It

Your sarcasm doesn't make the observation wrong though.

I'd probably be pro-incumbent too if my livelihood depended on it.

You're delusional if you think this is all related to some mythical government job.

The convoy started out with limited support and became more unpopular as time went on. I can imagine they enjoyed almost zero support in Ottawa itself.

This is a big problem with the far-right convoy types. They think they are in the majority because they hang around in their own echo chambers.

MolsonExport · #**3187** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 7:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Still doesn't look like property damage to me.

nor should it. That was not my intent.

Acajack · #**3188** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 7:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

nor should it. That was not my intent.

Hyperbolic propaganda about the convoy and its people only takes attention away from the fact that it indeed was the dumbest political protest movement ever and should have been broken up by the cops many weeks before the Emergencies Act was invoked.

Build.It · #**3189** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 7:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

You're delusional if you think this is all related to some mythical government job.

The convoy started out with limited support and became more unpopular as time went on. I can imagine they enjoyed almost zero support in Ottawa itself.

This is a big problem with the far-right convoy types. They think they are in the majority because they hang around in their own echo chambers.

Far-right? What does that mean? Is it anyone who makes an argument against the incumbents?

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Notice how most of the people saying the government's use of the Emergencies Act was unjust are making very calm, evidence-based arguments, often with sources?

While most of the people who believe the government was justified are making emotional, accusatory, name-calling type posts - without providing any concrete evidence or sources to backup their claims of why the use of the EA was justified.

Based on the types of responses and arguments coming from each side, who is on the far-end of a political spectrum and who is not?

MolsonExport · #**3190** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 7:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Hyperbolic propaganda about the convoy and its people only takes attention away from the fact that it indeed was the dumbest political protest movement ever and should have been broken up by the cops many weeks before the Emergencies Act was invoked.

That may be true, but of course, a picture of bouncy castles is hardly hyperbolic propaganda.

Acajack · #**3191** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 8:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by MolsonExport

That may be true, but of course, a picture of bouncy castles is hardly hyperbolic propaganda.

Perhaps not but it's a response to the tail end of an exchange of several messages alleging that property damage was a significant byproduct of the winter 2022 trucker convoy in Ottawa.

savevp · #**3192** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 8:06 PM**

The bloody cheese protection racket strikes again. We can't complete a trade deal with our oldest and closest ally as the UK has walked away.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...eese-1.7094817

whatnext · #**3193** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 8:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by savevp

The bloody cheese protection racket strikes again. We can't complete a trade deal with our oldest and closest ally as the UK has walked away.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...eese-1.7094817

Yep another Trudeau failure.
U.K. walks away from trade talks with Canada

Acajack · #**3194** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 8:29 PM**

I was away for a few days and only heard bits and pieces, but (admittedly the world's worst wannabe terrorist) shoots up Edmonton city hall and throws a molotov cocktail, and almost no one is talking about it?

Dengler Avenue · #**3195** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 9:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

I was away for a few days and only heard bits and pieces, but (admittedly the world's worst wannabe terrorist) shoots up Edmonton city hall and throws a molotov cocktail, and almost no one is talking about it?

I saw it on the news. I was just too lazy to post it here.

jonny24 · #**3196** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 9:12 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

I was away for a few days and only heard bits and pieces, but (admittedly the world's worst wannabe terrorist) shoots up Edmonton city hall and throws a molotov cocktail, and almost no one is talking about it?

It hasn't showed up on the front page of CBC News

Acajack · #**3197** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 9:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by WarrenC12

You're delusional if you think this is all related to some mythical government job.

The convoy started out with limited support and became more unpopular as time went on. I can imagine they enjoyed almost zero support in Ottawa itself.

This is a big problem with the far-right convoy types. They think they are in the majority because they hang around in their own echo chambers.

Sadly, you're quite mistaken.

Truenorth00 · #**3198** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 9:39 PM**

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Originally Posted by Acajack

Sadly, you're quite mistaken.

Not zero support. But let's be honest. It really wasn't that high. And got worse as time went on. Remember when residents in the south set up their own blockade because the cops weren't doing anything?

The lack of support and sympathy from locals definitely drove their behaviour. There convoyers seem to have bizarrely imagined they get a hero's welcome in Ottawa. When they got something between indifference and hostility, they decided the residents were fair game. A lot of them seem to have really bizarre ideas about Ottawa. They seemed to believe that everybody works for the government, or that annoying a bunch of public servants living in the core could somehow change government decision-making.

Truenorth00 · #**3199** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 9:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by savevp

The bloody cheese protection racket strikes again. We can't complete a trade deal with our oldest and closest ally as the UK has walked away.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/can...eese-1.7094817

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Originally Posted by whatnext

Yep another Trudeau failure.
U.K. walks away from trade talks with Canada

Honestly not sure what the UK has to offer Canada in a trade deal. Post-Brexit they are struggling. They've not gotten a deal with the US either. We absolutely should take them to the cleaners. That's just business.

Not that I don't want more British cheddar.

WarrenC12 · #**3200** Posted **Jan 25, 2024, 10:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by Build.It

Notice how most of the people saying the government's use of the Emergencies Act was unjust are making very calm, evidence-based arguments, often with sources?

No, I don't notice that. I notice them clinging to the headline, while ignoring the context of the decision, and having a curiously slanted recollection of what actually happened during those weeks in Ottawa.