800 Granville Street | 137.5m | 42, 38 fl | Proposed

[Migrant_Coconut]

Think they might as well rethink Granville Mall in general - the streetscape they were trying to protect is gone, and the new one needs different regs.

[gaviscon]

Originally Posted by Migrant_Coconut

Think they might as well rethink Granville Mall in general - the streetscape they were trying to protect is gone, and the new one needs different regs.

Yeah I was just gonna say... This stretch of the street is the only part that looks walkable. The rest of Granville looks disgusting.
Not sure if this project will do anything significant to the dying streetscape

[jollyburger]

DH article also said:

500 rental units
120-150 hotel units
Some office space.

Additional retail (at the expense of the office space) & hotel can be increased depending on demand.

Granville Plan:

“I’m very excited to see our new Granville Street policies coming forward to Council soon that will be focused on creating the right conditions and enabling new investment in entertainment, retail and hotel uses that will kickstart a modernized destination street, and build on the legacy of our storied entertainment district,” said Kirby-Yung.

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/rec-...strict-revival

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by gaviscon

Yeah I was just gonna say... This stretch of the street is the only part that looks walkable. The rest of Granville looks disgusting.
Not sure if this project will do anything significant to the dying streetscape

If, as jollyburger”s post say, Bonnie’s is one of the largest landholders on Granville then aren’t they partly responsible for that sorry state? I was under the impression that residential was restricted on this strip because of complaints from residents of buildings like the Capitol?

[officedweller]

I'm surprised that the City would even consider residential for Granville Street - it's bound to be noisy on weekend nights, unless they require triple-pane glass.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I'm surprised that the City would even consider residential for Granville Street - it's bound to be noisy on weekend nights, unless they require triple-pane glass.

There's not really policy that would currently support residential on this part of Granville. Note that councillor Kirby Yung, quoted above, doesn't reference residential development.

Council can approve any rezoning they choose to - as The Hudson shows to the north. That offered a significant public benefit in providing the accessible entry to SkyTrain, while there's nothing like that attached to the Bonnis proposal, and it's part of the entertainment district. Hotel makes much more sense than rental residential. As we've seen with several other Bonnis proposals, it's quite possible that it wouldn't get built, even if it was approved.

[jollyburger]

They pulled that updated rezoning permit for the 800 Granville project. Maybe it'll show up again soon under a different permit.

[Tysonbrown]

Originally Posted by officedweller

I'm surprised that the City would even consider residential for Granville Street - it's bound to be noisy on weekend nights, unless they require triple-pane glass.

Not once the city, "takes out the trash".

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Tysonbrown

Not once the city, "takes out the trash".

Except the city is basically inviting the trash down to party.

After The Capitol I thought they had learned their lesson about approving residential on Granville.

[jollyburger]

Nothing new but they moved the rezoning permit here. They said they are preparing notifications so I guess we'll see the rendering soon.

https://plposweb.vancouver.ca/Public...ctId=257134460

[officedweller]

I like this better...
They got rid of the big banner LED screen which overwhelmed the heritage facades (and kept it on just the corner)
Looks like the old corner facade is being kept.

Is that wide a bridge over the Commodore Ballroom really worth it?
I could see that narrowed to a wide passage in the value engineering and square footage moved into the north podium.
Someone's pet project must be to bridge over the Commodore.
I'm surprised it's not a tower and cable-stayed bridge design.


Perkins Will
https://x.com/vancouvermrkt/status/1...t%7Ctwcon%5Es1

New proposal for Commodore site at 800 Granville:

-Two rental towers, 43 & 39-storeys in height
-695,000 SF, 14.5 FSR
-Retention of Commodore Ballroom and Lanes
- Commercial & hotel uses in podium
- 15,000 SF of SRO space

Replaces previous plan from 2023 for 17-storey office.

https://x.com/vancouvermrkt/status/1...t%7Ctwcon%5Es1

The green strip up the middle reminds me of The Butterfly and Perkins Will's Earth Tower concept:


https://www.dezeen.com/2019/05/29/ca...couver-canada/

[gaviscon]

Well that's a pleasant surprise.

Hope the spandrel is like the Ontario Courthouse spandrel and not the typical Vancouver condo spandrel:



Rendering of the spandrel:

[jollyburger]

Here's the link for the high resolution image

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmW038Ea...name=4096x4096

EDIT: They updated the original Rezoning page so it's not showing as "new" on the homepage

~13,000 ft² of Retail at Level 1
~89,700 ft² of Commercial space at Levels 2 to 4
~13,000 ft² of Food & Beverage at Level 5 with
additional 17,350 ft² of outdoor patio
~15,500 ft² of SRA at the State Hotel
~ 47,000 ft² of Hotel from Level 6 to 8
~455,000 ft² of Residential, in combination of the
Granville Tower and State Hotel tower
Mechanical penthouse at Level 42 at the Granville
Tower and Level 38 at the State Hotel Tower

Introduction
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...troduction.pdf

Context
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...d-analysis.pdf

Rezoning Rationale
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...-rationale.pdf

Sustainability
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...ainability.pdf

Design Rationale
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...-rationale.pdf

Drawings
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...l-drawings.pdf

Landscape
https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...e-drawings.pdf

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/800-876-granville-st

[giallo]

I'd love to see more details, but it looks good. The scale is perfectly suitable for that corner/block.

[Klazu]

I like how narrow the south tower is, but the north tower looks very boring. Surprised to see them going for such heights along Granville Street.

[officedweller]

Retention of the Lennox Pub building at the corner is preventing the widening of the Robson sidewalk.
Could that be a strategic move to get bigger floorplates above?

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by gaviscon

Well that's a pleasant surprise.

Hope the spandrel is like the Ontario Courthouse spandrel and not the typical Vancouver condo spandrel:

It's a rezoning, so at this stage you can't assume that it's anything other than a massing exercise. All the materials and other details could change at the development permit stage, if City Council approve the rezoning.

The documentation mentions that to obtain CMHC funding, they have to have a proportion of the units letting below market, so they've included a replacement SRO (that was an issue with their previous proposal). So they aren't going to blowing the budget on a more expensive design.

[Migrant_Coconut]

Meh, now it looks like every other development in the downtown core... but better than nothing.

[Tysonbrown]

If the Club owners along Granville Street want it cleaned up by FIFA2026, then they should agree to have the whole area gated and ticketed for secure entry. That's the only way I can see the City financing a facelift after the homeless shelter residents are relocated.

Personally, I think FIFA is in doubt next year with all the tariff wars.

[LowerLonsdaleMike]

BORING!!!!!!!! Although the height increase is needed, I'm truly disappointed with this revision. For a block of the Granville strip that should be the showpiece of the entertainment district, putting in 2 mostly boring rental towers that look like any other building downtown is a huge letdown. At least the original had a uniqueness to it (kind of a Nashville vibe) and the huge LED visuals along it gave it a unique vibe.

Also, wtf is with the 2 floors of bike storage directly above the Commodore. It should be a cool space for a music venue, club, or restaurant.