Undersized? I don't think so. Take a look at other cities with the same population or close to the same and I think Philly beats all of them out.
Philly has the 6th largest population in the country. While it is a very nice looking skyline, they've never really gone after height the way some smaller cities have...until Comcast and this proposal at least...
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Many people are comparing this to the first iterations of the Freedom Tower (I do agree there are similarities). Is it posible that we get some renderings of FT posted here to do a side by side comparison.
Awful? Why did everyone hate that design so much? It looks incredible! Look at the torque in that design! It looks like it's on the edge, ready to snap or something! It would have really made an announcement to the rest of the world, but NYC really screwed up by watering it down. The Freedom Tower looks totally uninspired now. Such a shame. At least the ACC has salvaged some of that foresight...
I love this tower! I think, as an American, we need to start building more supertalls in our cities! We created the "Skyscraper", then the "Super tall", and know we are lagging behind...
I don't care what city in America, is building a "Super tall"! As long as we get the lead out of our asses, and start reaching more and more for the sky I will be happy.
After 9-11, the idea of more supertalls in the U.S. really came to a hault.
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Reason: Misread photo on the left
By the way!......The rendering on the left looks like the building twists a little.
It kinda reminds me of the old, "Freedom Tower design, with the new Waldorf Astoria design in Chicago?"
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The Spire
I like the spire. It looks like they took a slice out of the Northwest top corner of the building, inverted it, and stuck it on top of the Southeast. This chamfered slice looks a bit like a lightening bolt from the sides. Hey, I just thought of something.......Ben Franklin's kite experiment - lightning bolt.... in Philadelphia*..... I wonder if that was intentional?
(* supposedly June 15, 1752 in Philly... probably never happened, though )
the two triangular slices cut out on the corner, mirror or suggest the shape of the spire on top. So that shape appears three times, the first triangular cut points upward the second downward and the third, the spire itself points into the sky.
I like the spire. It looks like they took a slice out of the Northwest top corner of the building, inverted it, and stuck it on top of the Southeast. This chamfered slice looks a bit like a lightening bolt from the sides. Hey, I just thought of something.......Ben Franklin's kite experiment - lightning bolt.... in Philadelphia*..... I wonder if that was intentional?
(* supposedly June 15, 1752 in Philly... probably never happened, though )
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(* supposedly June 15, 1752 in Philly... probably never happened, though )
don't know why you'd say that. it really did happen, it's just the location that is in question, but it certainly happened in the philadelphia area. some say it was in bensalem.
franklin's findings are well documented. there was however a group of french scientists (who else) who claimed that they discovered electricity before franklin, but that franklin probably would not have known of their experiments and do not claim that he ripped them off.
they probably independently discovered it roughly at the same time without knowledge of each other.
yes, the yellow highlighting that in your rendering suggests a bolt of lightning is a step in starting to make what might appear at first to be a little awkward and arbitrary design seem in fact to be a very conscious use of acute angles executed in glass to achieve dramatic effect. The combined effect of the lower and upper triangles , the hexagonal roof and the spire itself are all related to each other in that they help define and modulate the vertical extention of the tower unlike say the old WTC buildings which were tall rigidly retangular boxes that loomed blandly over their more interesting neighbors.
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don't know why you'd say that. it really did happen, it's just the location that is in question, but it certainly happened in the philadelphia area. some say it was in bensalem.
franklin's findings are well documented. there was however a group of french scientists (who else) who claimed that they discovered electricity before franklin, but that franklin probably would not have known of their experiments and do not claim that he ripped them off.
they probably independently discovered it roughly at the same time without knowledge of each other.
I thought it was true too, but I did a quick little netsearching before I posted. I wanted to make sure it *did* happen in Philly and not up in Boston or somewhere else. I found about six different sites (including Wikipedia) that claim that the research was true but the actual events were a myth. That includes the Mythbusters on Discovery Channel who evidently did an episode on it. They reasoned that Ben's kite could fly during a thunderstorm, that an electrical charge could travel down the string and spark the key, but the charge would have been lethal to whomever touched the key.
i agree with miamispartan. its been a low-rise city, so the skyline has always looked compact. well, compared to newer cities.
its about time!
Not necessarily. Ever see the skylines of San Jose, Phoenix, Vegas, Tampa, or Jacksonville? And is LA's skyline indicative of a city of 3+ million? What about Chicago? What does its skyline say about its size? Is it proportional or does it make Chi-town feel bigger than it really is? Does it matter that cities like Houston or Atlanta have large skylines but their CBD's are surrounded by freeways, parking lots, and single homes with backyards?
Don098, don't be an insulting fool on this forum!! As you can tell I edited my statements shorly after because I did notice the picture on the left was the World Trade Center!
What are 10 years old!?
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I like the spire. It looks like they took a slice out of the Northwest top corner of the building, inverted it, and stuck it on top of the Southeast. This chamfered slice looks a bit like a lightening bolt from the sides. Hey, I just thought of something.......Ben Franklin's kite experiment - lightning bolt.... in Philadelphia*..... I wonder if that was intentional?
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