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Old Posted Jan 24, 2011, 4:35 PM
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Interesting you mention Sweet Georgia's Juke Joint, I just received an invitation to the unveiling of Stacey Brown's mural, "Swing, Strut, Sway". Which will be taking place there.
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2011, 7:35 PM
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My guess is that they've planned the plaza game days in mind. The Alumni Association already parks the Wreck in front of the current building, and hosts gatherings there. On game day, a cop periodically halts traffic on North so the congregants can cross en mass, after all.

It's too single-purpose for my tastes, though I do like that it'll mean the sidewalk is wider through that stretch of North.

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UGH....what's with that giant empty plaza in front of this new building?...But instead there is a big dead space that will be no better than what is there now.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 24, 2011, 9:26 PM
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For this discussion of a car factory, I'd be extremely surprised if KIA or Hyundai considered anything within the Atlanta metro. Wages are higher and the fear of unionization is greater than it is in the countryside. They would never build on a former UAW auto factory site--no doubt about that.

My guess is they would build either in Georgia or Alabama. They have a very proximity-focused logistics approach--if you look at where they cited the existing KIA plant, it's basically as close as you can possibly be to the existing Hyundai plant while staying in Georgia and on a CSX rail line. Of course, other states will be dragged along through the bidding process (if there ever is one), but Georgia or Alabama will win. Mississippi has a sliver of a chance. No matter what it will be good for us.

Ford or GM will never come back. If you look at the plants they closed throughout the 1990s and 2000s, it's really clear that they made a concerted effort to concentrate nearly all of their production in the great lakes region. Other plants, like Wilmington, DE; Norfolk, VA; and Oklahoma City, OK; and Fremont, CA, among others, all shared the same fate.
     
     
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6 Flags over Georgia's 11th rollercoaster

I know this is kinda far out of Atlanta, but oh well

"In 2011, Six Flags Over Georgia will introduce Dare Devil Dive,
a "euro fighter" coaster with an amazing drop that's BEYOND vertical.

Dare Devil Dive will be the 11th coaster in Six Flags Over Georgia's already stellar coaster line-up."

http://www.sixflags.com/overGeorgia/rides/daredevildive.aspx
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I know this is kinda far out of Atlanta, but oh well

"In 2011, Six Flags Over Georgia will introduce Dare Devil Dive,
a "euro fighter" coaster with an amazing drop that's BEYOND vertical.

Dare Devil Dive will be the 11th coaster in Six Flags Over Georgia's already stellar coaster line-up."

http://www.sixflags.com/overGeorgia/rides/daredevildive.aspx
Thanks for the info...but Six Flags is solidly located in Metro Atlanta and just west of the city limits, so it's not too far away to be relevant.
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 26, 2011, 8:44 PM
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^ i'm going on a construction tour of the site at Six Flags in a couple of weeks, so maybe I'll post some pictures of the progress!
     
     
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Old Posted Jan 27, 2011, 7:01 PM
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You must be smoking rock if you think there is even a remote chance that Tech will go private. First off, I doubt it would be Tech's decision since it is a state school. Second, the Georgia legislature appropriates something along the lines of 3X% of the yearly operating budget of around a billion dollars.

Thirdly, the legislature also has appropriated plenty of money for buildings. The Marcus building was matched with state funds and the new undergraduate learning learning center was built mostly with state funds as was the CRC retrofit. You have to remember that even though Tech gets substantial donations there are usually substantial matching state funding to go along with that.

It is not in the state's interest for GT to ever go private so I seriously doubt it will happen in our generation or the next one. Is there even any precedent out there for this?
Sorry for bringing this up again, and I didn't feel like responding before, but this guy is wrong and now there is new news on the '12 budget.

2008, the GA taxpayers contributed $259M, or 25%
2009, the GA taxpayers contributed $289M, or 25% still
2010, the GA taxpayers contributed $254.3M, or 22% (another 1% or $12.1M came from ARRA federal stimulus)
2011, the GA taxpayers contributed $231M, or 19%

And now, due to a 6% cut, the GA taxpayer could contribute a whopping 13% of the 2012 budget.

BTW, 29% of the 2002 budget came from GA taxpayers. 28% the next year. It has been on a steady decline but has long been below a third of the budget. There is ever growing serious discussion to take UVA private as only 6-8% of its revenue/appropriation share comes from the state. We are now approaching those levels and there have been plenty of murmurs in certain groups.

You are right that $45M was state appropriated for Marcus and $60M for Clough (large chunks of total state appropriations for the school). You are also right that the state owns the land that Tech sits on...kinda'. Tech has invested in much of the land using the Foundation and it's more complicated than you or I know. There are still plenty of buildings and construction projects fully financed by private contributions and investments. I don't expect the state tio contribute anything to the $45M AMC renovation or the Bill Moore renovation. The state did not contribute to the CoM/Technology Square.

FTR, in 2002 UGA received 43% of its budget from the state and in 2011 it received 32% of its budget from the state, so it's on a decline, too, but still receives substantially more from the state. Georgia State still receives 47-61% of its budget from the state, but it's not very transparent or professionally displayed.

Bottom line, the percentage of out of state students at Tech (like I myself was) is far far higher than the percent of the annual budget revenue appropriated by the state. The state does not even own all of the land. Tech is run literally like a large MIT (coincidentally where I want to go to grad). Private or not, it's closer to private than public and people realize that (it's coming down to whether people want to swallow the intitial shock and continue on virtually the same with no state funding...little diff at this point, or if we just want to maintain the status quo).

BTW, I just read from an inside source that by 2013, only about 8% of all revenue will come from the state (for Georgia Tech). That will put us along with UVA, which is probably the public school most seriously looking at going private.

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Old Posted Jan 28, 2011, 2:08 AM
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2011, 1:35 PM
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I don't want Tech to go private, because if it does tuition will almost certainly go up drastically. I like the fact the Tech is an affordable option to most people in the state that pays huge dividends if you can make the grades.
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2011, 9:22 PM
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I dont think 6% of 19% is 6%. Is GT having a 33% cut in state funding this year?
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Old Posted Jan 29, 2011, 7:58 PM
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^^^Yes, my mistake. I received an email and read it completely wrong. Our state appropriated revenue for 2012 will most likely end up being between $200-$211 million, or between 16-17% of our revenue. Tuition only provides about 13% of the total revenue, btw.

If this track continues (our budget has already been cut or approved/budgeted for a cut of about $87.5M since 2009), then I would guess that within a decade, easily, we'll be appropriated between 5-10% of our revenue by the state.

Frankly, I am pleased about some of the things Tech is doing and angry about some other things. When I enrolled, there were about 15,000 students including grad and undergrad. Now there almost 21,000 students. I think our cap is 22,000 unofficially, but I know Bud Peterson is a fan of a larger student body. Are we trying to dilute the value of a Tech education here?

I am happy with all of the new buildings, retrofits, and the updated Master Plan/Landscape Plan, though they have made parking an impossible situation. It's an annoyance for off campus students, but it's a deal breaker for speakers who want to talk at Tech (I have heard lots of complaints and I have heard of speakers getting so fed up they never came).

Frankly, if Tech does go private, the student body is already so out of state and foreign that it closely resembles many private schools. Our teachers aren't unionized so no worries there, either. Tuition only contributes about 13% of the total revenue and the state increases it almost every year anyway for in-state students, so I doubt Tech would automatically put all tuition at over $30K for in-state students, though fairness is an issue. Maybe in the beginning they would have to come down to the middle and increase in-state and decrease out-of state so it evens out. Still, if the GA taxpayers don't place a high value on a Tech education through tax allocations (15-20%??), yet they send their children to the school, it's time they personally place a value on a Tech education. Lastly, Tech Foundation already owns a good bit of the land (Tech Square for instance) and interests in many if not most of the buildings. Going private would be a huge deal, but it would be easier for Tech to do than 95% or more of public institutions.

Here are some construction updates. Sorry for the grainy photos, I don't know what was wrong with my camera at the time.

North Avenue Dining Room...should be LEED Gold EB certified soon!




CULC...same thing here with the LEED Gold certification






     
     
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^^^Yes, my mistake. I received an email and read it completely wrong. Our state appropriated revenue for 2012 will most likely end up being between $200-$211 million, or between 16-17% of our revenue. Tuition only provides about 13% of the total revenue, btw.

If this track continues (our budget has already been cut or approved/budgeted for a cut of about $87.5M since 2009), then I would guess that within a decade, easily, we'll be appropriated between 5-10% of our revenue by the state.

Frankly, I am pleased about some of the things Tech is doing and angry about some other things. When I enrolled, there were about 15,000 students including grad and undergrad. Now there almost 21,000 students. I think our cap is 22,000 unofficially, but I know Bud Peterson is a fan of a larger student body. Are we trying to dilute the value of a Tech education here?

I am happy with all of the new buildings, retrofits, and the updated Master Plan/Landscape Plan, though they have made parking an impossible situation. It's an annoyance for off campus students, but it's a deal breaker for speakers who want to talk at Tech (I have heard lots of complaints and I have heard of speakers getting so fed up they never came).

Frankly, if Tech does go private, the student body is already so out of state and foreign that it closely resembles many private schools. Our teachers aren't unionized so no worries there, either. Tuition only contributes about 13% of the total revenue and the state increases it almost every year anyway for in-state students, so I doubt Tech would automatically put all tuition at over $30K for in-state students, though fairness is an issue. Maybe in the beginning they would have to come down to the middle and increase in-state and decrease out-of state so it evens out. Still, if the GA taxpayers don't place a high value on a Tech education through tax allocations (15-20%??), yet they send their children to the school, it's time they personally place a value on a Tech education. Lastly, Tech Foundation already owns a good bit of the land (Tech Square for instance) and interests in many if not most of the buildings. Going private would be a huge deal, but it would be easier for Tech to do than 95% or more of public institutions.

Here are some construction updates. Sorry for the grainy photos, I don't know what was wrong with my camera at the time.

North Avenue Dining Room...should be LEED Gold EB certified soon!




CULC...same thing here with the LEED Gold certification






I'm a UGA grad myself, but I must admit that Tech is doing some really great things for North Avenue. Even though there was previously street-level retail, it was so far back from the street that it didn't add much to the pedestrian experience. Also, them buying the project tower right across the street for an alumni building was a great move.

Do you know what that sign on the wall of the housing project is? I think it's advertising townhomes called Centennial Park North. Are these going on the site, or is it just a sign?

Also, do you if there are any plans/ideas/discussions of reconstructing the North Avenue bridge to be like 5th Street?

I had heard murmurings about doing it to 10th St bridge, but I think North Avenue would be a better idea. If the bridge was "5th street-ized", and someone (maybe Tech?) redeveloped that gas station, it would really tie North Avenue together. That area could really use a shot in the arm, as it is the least attractive part of Midtown and Tech, imo. Also, better pedestrian experience would make Tech students more likely to make the treck across North Ave to go to Varsity.
     
     
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One more thing. What's with Tech's obsession with modern architecture? UGA has always constructed its buildings in traditional architecture, and the result is a campus that doesnt look dated, for the most part. An example of where they went wrong is when they used modern architecture in the 70s to contstruct South Campus. They learned from thier mistakes though, unlike Tech.

Also, my sisters went to tech, one from 1990-1994 and the other from 1993-1997. They took a run through and around Tech campus the other day and said the campus has vastly improved since the time they were there, and they were very impressed. I think Atlanta is very lucky to have Tech and GSU, as they are both incredibe contributors to the revitilization of thier respective areas. If it wasnt for GSU, I would be skeptical of Downtown becoming fully revitalized. But there is hope, based on whether GSU can take over Five Points. If that happens, and Five Points/Underground is cleaned up, the transition of Downtown from hollowed-out hellhole to vibrant neighborhood will be complete.
     
     
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I'm a UGA grad myself, but I must admit that Tech is doing some really great things for North Avenue. Even though there was previously street-level retail, it was so far back from the street that it didn't add much to the pedestrian experience. Also, them buying the project tower right across the street for an alumni building was a great move.

Do you know what that sign on the wall of the housing project is? I think it's advertising townhomes called Centennial Park North. Are these going on the site, or is it just a sign?

Also, do you if there are any plans/ideas/discussions of reconstructing the North Avenue bridge to be like 5th Street?

I had heard murmurings about doing it to 10th St bridge, but I think North Avenue would be a better idea. If the bridge was "5th street-ized", and someone (maybe Tech?) redeveloped that gas station, it would really tie North Avenue together. That area could really use a shot in the arm, as it is the least attractive part of Midtown and Tech, imo. Also, better pedestrian experience would make Tech students more likely to make the treck across North Ave to go to Varsity.

You should have seen what the old BP station looked like
     
     
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In the early going, North American Properties has already begun to strengthen its relationship with the Midtown leaders. It's likely to tweak the retail mix of Atlantic Town Center to appeal more to the hip, young, Midtown community. In the past two years, Midtown has lured trendy retailers Anthropologie (West Midtown) and CB2 (12th & Midtown project on Peachtree Street).
As long as they leave the theatre the hell alone, it would be interesting to see what they have in mind. Let's start by expanding Atlantic Grill into The Grape's space, and replacing California Pizza Kitchen with a real pizza joint.

What else would you like to see in the retail district?
     
     
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As long as they leave the theatre the hell alone, it would be interesting to see what they have in mind. Let's start by expanding Atlantic Grill into The Grape's space, and replacing California Pizza Kitchen with a real pizza joint.

What else would you like to see in the retail district?
was never fond of the fact that they put retail outlets there that one could go to anywhere else. i think the retail portion of the development could have and should reflect its uniqueness as a development, there is no real draw.
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was never fond of the fact that they put retail outlets there that one could go to anywhere else. i think the retail portion of the development could have and should reflect its uniqueness as a development, there is no real draw.
Any ideas on something unique?
     
     
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Construction has just begun on a new 239,000 square foot office building at CDC's Chamblee Campus. The building will have 8 levels above grade plus 2 at/below grade levels, and should be very visible from Buford highway.

It will also include a detached parking deck expansion for 719 cars and a parking lot for 108 cars. :/

Scheduled completion is early 2013.

     
     
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