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Originally Posted by ThebiteofSuarez
I'm not saying I'm right or you are either but just because a project is this far along doesn't mean it will not go through design altering changes. The contractor will be trying to make as much money as he can while proposing material substitutions with more economical (cheaper) ones. Unless we architects specify something almost difficult to substitute or argue that the material is integral to the project, even if the owner is rich, they will tend to approve the cheaper solutions to save money.
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Oh sorry, in your first post when you said "it was definitely valued engineered" I figured you knew something that the rest of us didn't. i wasn't trying to start a "you're right or I'm right" thing. But what I was trying to say was that we received a couple of renderings for the Wilshire grand. The third, and last one, being the one that everyone liked the most, and some like me who like the very first proposal with two towers, but the second renderings showed the steel columns behind the glass.....
So I'm guessing Korean air went along with the second rendering and ditched the third for whatever reason, even though they were nearly identical, I don't think most forumers on here even noticed. But doing it the third way shouldn't have cost that much more. probably would have saved, less curtain wall, less time installing them which save on paid wages, coat the steel for corrosion and done.
But this was discussed on the central city thread a few weeks ago when people noticed the curtain wall had stopped at that level and were wondering what they were going to do next.