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munchymunch · #**30541** Posted **Sep 19, 2015, 6:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ned.B

On the note of buildings on the demolition delay list, I see that a demo permit is being sought for the 4 story brick building at 159 E. Grand. Does anyone know anything about a potential project there?

Also on the list seeking demo permits for upcoming development:
- 208 W lake Street
- 800/802 N Wells

Lastly, the Cedar Hotel has received its permit to salvage the facade and demo the rest of the building. Things should be moving there soon.

208 W lake is the rozack tower, 800 n wells is the new smithfield tower.

Are you sure 159 e grand isn't just for the water tank? If not, what a shame I really like that building.

F1 Tommy · #**30542** Posted **Sep 19, 2015, 6:36 PM**

Speaking of old hospitals, has anyone heard anything new on the old Cook County Hospital??

Ned.B · #**30543** Posted **Sep 19, 2015, 6:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by munchymunch

Are you sure 159 e grand isn't just for the water tank? If not, what a shame I really like that building.

It reads "Wreck and remove existing 4-story masonry commercial structure" and oops, actual address is 161 E Grand.

ardecila · #**30544** Posted **Sep 19, 2015, 8:25 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ned.B

I'm surprised these buildings weren't subject to the 3 month demolition delay ordinance, considering their age and architecture, despite the modified upper floors.

The buildings were not rated Red or Orange in the CHRS, so a demolition delay was not required.

1753 W. Congress Parkway is only rated Green, on account of its significant alterations.

http://webapps1.cityofchicago.org/la...mber=280138002

the urban politician · #**30545** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 12:13 AM**

Neat video of the oldest known footage of Chicago:

http://digg.com/video/oldest-footage-chicago

Ch.G, Ch.G · #**30546** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 1:42 AM**

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Originally Posted by PKDickman

Not so much an accident as an afterthought.

The parcel was landlocked. Although the neighbors to the east would grant them an easement across their back yard to access rear parking, that back yard was accessed via the CTA right of way and the CTA would not go along with it. So they had to change the plan to allow front access.

...accident in the sense that the architectural value which Jibba praised happened by chance and was not deliberate at all.

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Originally Posted by HowardL

My problem with NYE in Chicago is that it is always FUCKING FREEZING. I'm no baby but if you want me to stand around outside after the warm buzz of the booze wears off then have scattered warming stations.

Not some generic tacky things; more like bars with fire pits. Maybe mix the Redmoon fire motif in with booze. Booze being the patron saint of NYE.

That's what molly is for.

Chicago is colder than NYC. Not significantly, but enough that I think it would be noticeable if just barely. I wonder if the Chicago numbers take into account the windchill and if the New York's the heat island effect. And I don't know how much it affects the overall experience, but you spend much more time underground in New York. The heat lamps on the "L" platforms help, but not as much.

But yeah. When people (and I'm not talking about you here—just "people" in general) use an epithet like Chiberia to describe the city, it makes me think they haven't spent much time in other large Frost Belt cities.

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34

Dang, can we please stop it with calling out Tom Servo on ever single thing? Sure there are things we disagree with him on, but so does everyone with everyone else on this forum.

A lot of the other disagreements are much more minor by comparison, and most people don't use the same kind of inflammatory, bombastic language.

ardecila · #**30547** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 2:13 AM**

That's kind of a Manhattan-centric perspective. There's not really a heat island effect in winter, and for a comparison of Times Square and Pioneer Court, the effect would be pretty similar in both places. Also, if you live in the outer boroughs you will spend plenty of time at open-air subway or bus stops.

Rizzo · #**30548** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 6:24 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ned.B

It reads "Wreck and remove existing 4-story masonry commercial structure" and oops, actual address is 161 E Grand.

Shame I like that building and the frantic corner office with zillions of bobble heads and stanley cups. As of tonight the building still looked fully operational

the urban politician · #**30549** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 11:02 AM**

^ Damn it, that's the 3rd old school warehouse type building that will be removed from Streeterville in recent years. It's fine because it will eventually be replaced with a highrise, but Streeterville is losing most of whatever character it had.

I would really like to see that butt-nasty old school garage across the street and over to the east replaced. Now that's a streetscape killer...

VKChaz · #**30550** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 2:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

I would really like to see that butt-nasty old school garage across the street and over to the east replaced. Now that's a streetscape killer...

I actually find that one of the more appealing garages. The old garages did not include retail but did have a welcoming, open feel to them.

munchymunch · #**30551** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 2:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by Hayward

Shame I like that building and the frantic corner office with zillions of bobble heads and stanley cups. As of tonight the building still looked fully operational

I believe Oracle? the company that occupies the building recently signed a lease in the Wrigley building.

marothisu · #**30552** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 2:48 PM**

Sounds pretty good:
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150...t-space-pilsen

UrbanLibertine · #**30553** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 4:14 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Damn it, that's the 3rd old school warehouse type building that will be removed from Streeterville in recent years. It's fine because it will eventually be replaced with a highrise, but Streeterville is losing most of whatever character it had.

I would really like to see that butt-nasty old school garage across the street and over to the east replaced. Now that's a streetscape killer...

I know we're all for flashy new highrise projects, but the historic character in downtown feels like it's being systematically erased. It's obvious, but the smaller and older buildings in downtown (including Streeterville and River North) preserve some of the pedestrian feel of late-19th/early-20th century Chicago.

munchymunch · #**30554** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 5:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by UrbanLibertine

Demolition permits issued for all the Rush Hospital buildings between Congress and Harrison facing Wood. Beautiful old buildings. Bummer.

http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2...d-for-nothing/

the urban politician · #**30555** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 6:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

Sounds pretty good:
http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20150...t-space-pilsen

There really is no doubt at this point. Pilsen is really heating up now

marothisu · #**30556** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 7:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by the urban politician

There really is no doubt at this point. Pilsen is really heating up now

Yeah, though keep in mind this isn't in the absolute heart of Pilsen - it's on the very edge of it on Hoyne and Blue Island. Not far from the river.

the urban politician · #**30557** Posted **Sep 20, 2015, 8:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by marothisu

Yeah, though keep in mind this isn't in the absolute heart of Pilsen - it's on the very edge of it on Hoyne and Blue Island. Not far from the river.

I know, I'm just taking in general, from my own observations as well as discussions with realtors, other buyers, and bankers. It is really heating up.

Look out for the Pink Line to become the new Brown Line.

pilsenarch · #**30558** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 1:41 PM**

Received a letter last week from our friend John George announcing a request for a zoning amendment @ 171 N Wabash to allow for "the construction of 7 story residential building with a height of 80' containing 60 dwelling units, with commercial and retail space on the ground floor."

Must be the surface parking lot. Too bad it's so small.

LouisVanDerWright · #**30559** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 1:53 PM**

^^^ Eh, I'm not worried about it, not everything new in downtown needs to be a huge highrise. Even a small building like this is a vast improvement over the current lot. Just one less potential site for the time being pushing development pressure further to the West and South where it is more badly needed. With all the new units being added in the NE Loop, 60 more is just icing on the cake and it eliminates a bit of car storage as well. In 50 years they can come tear this down and build a 495 Park Ave style pencil tower.

Skyguy_7 · #**30560** Posted **Sep 21, 2015, 1:58 PM**

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Originally Posted by pilsenarch

Received a letter last week from our friend John George announcing a request for a zoning amendment @ 171 N Wabash to allow for "the construction of 7 story residential building with a height of 80' containing 60 dwelling units, with commercial and retail space on the ground floor."

Must be the surface parking lot. Too bad it's so small.

That's an improvement. If I recall correctly, the previous plan had been for a 7-eleven..

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