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roryn1 · #**3001** Posted **Jul 14, 2018, 8:14 AM**

It’s pretty nuts a developer isn’t coming in to just take this over and build a 5 story building with a slightly larger underground parkade or something. May as well settle for something instead of just fill it in to dig it out again in 5-7 years. Is business sentiment that bad I. Regina right now? What did the Sask Party do to this province if a developer doesn’t have to pay those initial costs lol and still won’t come in

Festivus · #**3002** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 4:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by roryn1

It’s pretty nuts a developer isn’t coming in to just take this over and build a 5 story building with a slightly larger underground parkade or something. May as well settle for something instead of just fill it in to dig it out again in 5-7 years. Is business sentiment that bad I. Regina right now? What did the Sask Party do to this province if a developer doesn’t have to pay those initial costs lol and still won’t come in

I'm not fan of the Sask Party, but our downturn has 95% nothing to do with them. Our province relies almost entirely on outside buyers for our resources, and one of the biggest is still in a slump (oil). It's getting better, but there is less money flowing in SK than there was 10 years ago. There's already a lot of empty office space around, so even if the new build was cheaper than normal, there is little incentive to start it.

Jets4Life · #**3003** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 8:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Festivus

I'm not fan of the Sask Party, but our downturn has 95% nothing to do with them. Our province relies almost entirely on outside buyers for our resources, and one of the biggest is still in a slump (oil). It's getting better, but there is less money flowing in SK than there was 10 years ago. There's already a lot of empty office space around, so even if the new build was cheaper than normal, there is little incentive to start it.

Is that space big enough to accommodate a 12,000 seat arena? The arena Regina has for indoor events and the WHL Pats seems fairly old and outdated. It would be interesting if the Government made plans to build a 10-12,000 seat arena there.

BrutallyDishonest2 · #**3004** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 3:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jets4Life

Is that space big enough to accommodate a 12,000 seat arena? The arena Regina has for indoor events and the WHL Pats seems fairly old and outdated. It would be interesting if the Government made plans to build a 10-12,000 seat arena there.

It's not big enough to support the rink, let alone 12,000 spectators.

khabibulin · #**3005** Posted **Jul 15, 2018, 6:03 PM**

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It's only like 1/8th the size of one city block.

Should have just left the Plains Hotel standing.

http://plainshotelandgoodtimecharlie...ins-hotel.html

https://leaderpost.com/feature/remem...e-plains-hotel

Festivus · #**3006** Posted **Jul 16, 2018, 12:18 AM**

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Originally Posted by BrutallyDishonest2

It's not big enough to support the rink, let alone 12,000 spectators.

Just make it a really tall stadium instead:

lol

Kegger · #**3007** Posted **Jul 16, 2018, 1:44 PM**

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Originally Posted by Festivus

Just make it a really tall stadium instead:

lol

We could call it the slurpee cup

HomeInMyShoes · #**3008** Posted **Jul 16, 2018, 2:45 PM**

Thanks for the graphic Festivus, that made my morning.

Draftsman · #**3009** Posted **Jul 17, 2018, 12:11 AM**

Your excellent graphic made me think that Tim Horton's could purchase the naming rights. The exterior design could look like this:

https://www.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=...act=mrc&uact=8

StealthGirl · #**3010** Posted **Jul 24, 2018, 3:35 PM**

Day 1 of 3 days of hearings about Capital Pointe started this morning. Westgate is fighting the fill-the-hole order.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...ject-1.4759240

@KarynMulcahy (reporter with CTV)
The Saskatchewan Building and Accessibility Standards Appeal Board will hear the dispute between the City of Regina and Westgate Properties Ltd., the developer of the Capital Pointe project today. I'll have updates throughout the day.

The speaker for the appeal board opens by saying the board has the power to confirm the order, revoke the order, or vary the order issued by city in regards the the Capital Pointe property.

Lawyer for Westgate Neil Abbott says he disputes the city's claim that the site isn't safe.

Abbott wants order to backfill revoked, but says if board does find in favour of the city, they want the order to backfill to be modified to find another solution. #yqr #capitalpointe

Abbott says today's hearing should only focus on the order to comply, ie the safety of the site, and not other concerns that have been raised about the project. #yqr #capitalpointe

https://twitter.com/KarynMulcahy

BrutallyDishonest2 · #**3011** Posted **Jul 24, 2018, 11:53 PM**

The city is using its in-house counsel, so they'll probably lose.

Stormer · #**3012** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 2:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by BrutallyDishonest2

The city is using its in-house counsel, so they'll probably lose.

Developer's lawyer is appearing by phone. That can be a disadvantage.

BrutallyDishonest2 · #**3013** Posted **Jul 26, 2018, 10:48 PM**

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Developer's lawyer is appearing by phone. That can be a disadvantage.

Fair point.

HomeInMyShoes · #**3014** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 6:54 PM**

Capital Pointe hole not safe, experts say

his article makes me believe that the appeal might be denied, but we don't really know. So I guess the end of August. "Time keeps ticking in my head..."

babo · #**3015** Posted **Jul 27, 2018, 9:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by HomeInMyShoes

Capital Pointe hole not safe, experts say

his article makes me believe that the appeal might be denied, but we don't really know. So I guess the end of August. "Time keeps ticking in my head..."

Lit.

drm310 · #**3016** Posted **Aug 24, 2018, 8:02 PM**

Appeal board gives Capital Pointe 3 options for hole

Regina / 980 CJME
CJME News
August 24, 2018 01:35 pm

The fate of Capital Pointe now lies with the development company itself as the appeal board has given it three options and a deadline to decide what to do in a month.

The Saskatchewan Building and Accessibility Standards (SBAS) released its decision on the appeal on Friday at noon. Instead of upholding the City of Regina’s Order to Comply to backfill the hole issued on April 3, 2018, the SBAS varied the order by giving Westgate Properties three options and a deadline of September 30 to tell the city.

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Read more: https://www.cjme.com/2018/08/24/appe...ions-for-hole/

HomeInMyShoes · #**3017** Posted **Aug 24, 2018, 8:25 PM**

So:

1 - start building by April 1st, 2019 with building permits submitted by Februrary 28th, 2019 and actually have it completed by March 2020.
2 - add permanent shoring to the hole
3 - backfill it as the city said, starting no later than November 30, 2018.

April 1st

saskatoonborn · #**3018** Posted **Aug 24, 2018, 8:35 PM**

So what is stopping them from just saying option 1 and continuing to do what they are doing? There is no specific penalty stated for failing to comply that I saw. did I miss it? Doesn't seem like what you guys wanted which sucks.

Stormer · #**3019** Posted **Aug 24, 2018, 9:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by saskatoonborn

So what is stopping them from just saying option 1 and continuing to do what they are doing? There is no specific penalty stated for failing to comply that I saw. did I miss it? Doesn't seem like what you guys wanted which sucks.

There are some things they have to have done as early as Oct 31, 2018.

HomeInMyShoes · #**3020** Posted **Aug 24, 2018, 9:55 PM**

^Well, they have to file a permit to excavate with the city, but that seems to be it from the article.