Saskatoon Construction III

[prairieguy]

Originally Posted by phone

Back to the street crime issue... In my view there are a few things that would help.

1. More eyes on the street, which developments like Knox Tower and Baydo Towers would bring.
2. More funds directed toward (sufficiently trained) community policing and harm-reduction agencies.
3. Decentralizing the Lighthouse into separate emergency shelter, low-income housing, soup kitchen etc and spread these throughout the downtown and other core areas.
4. Continued public investment into amenities that draw people downtown such as the new library and new arena.
5. Certain things to make winter more palatable, such as warming shelters
6. Improve public transit to facilitate and promote people circulating through downtown and spending time there

There are other things such as downtown festivals and public events that Saskatoon already does quite well I'd say. We also do a good job of having cultural draws (Remai, Ukrainian Museum, Wonderhub, Kinsmen Park, Persephone, Shakespeare on the Saskatchewan).

We want to promote a good investment climate downtown both for retailers/food service/nightlife, for tourism more generally, for condo residents, and for corporate citizens. These things feed into each other but the result will hopefully be an increased tax base for the city AND reduced crime downtown.

Maybe this went a little sideways but I think there is a strong connection between crime levels and public activity downtown. The more people are downtown conducting business and living their lives, the harder it will be for people to get away with personal crime. Not only this but increased economic opportunity in the core should mean that fewer people need to resort to crime in the first place (but perhaps that's overly idealistic). It should go without saying that access to housing/harm reduction strategies needs to accompany this.

Well said and in complete agreement!!!

[roryn1]

phone for mayor!

[Ricopedra]

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[phone]

Originally Posted by Ricopedra

That's from me.

So mr. phone, you make it look like, "inexistence" is a quote from me when it's from djforsberg, and in the same sentence you parrot my phrase, acting like a scholar far above our undergraduate bickering. Again, I'm not picking any fights, I just believe details and facts are important. And the spins being spun here are based upon prejudice, not facts. That's what sucks. Did I mention that not only am I an alcoholic, but also a lesbian? Take that for a ride. All tongue in cheeks

Because I'm for densification and preservation of nature doesn't make me a socialist. I just love a vibrant society. You do need a safety net for the losers, or they'll wreck havoc on your freedom. It's worth the money and the effort to deal with these unfortunates. But no-one should get a free ride. (Writing this to Saskatoon, there could be some tasteless jokes, from what I've heard, out past the city limits). Anyway, folks seem quick to draw their guns here. If you took more time to contemplate the words, we'd get further ahead in the discussion. Cheers. Doh! (Haha -that alcoholic label got folks judging quickly, didn't it?>) Over and out.

Ricopedra- you're fine. I have no qualm with you and I usually agree with your positions. In fact I like the rowdiness you bring to this forum. I quoted you to chime in alongside you -- thought that would be clear enough from the context. Sorry if I wasn't clear enough in establishing my ground.

djforsberg - I think most people here are sympathetic to basic ideals of improving people's living standards and wanting to build a better city. There might disagreement on how to get there but there are definitely not many Trump-y people here as far as I can tell. So it's not that I necessarily disagree with the core of what you're saying (in fact I do agree with much of it), I just have trouble linking it back to anything substantive of what's going on in terms of local development projects or policy.

That said, IDGAF about debates about neoliberalism in a construction thread. Can we start a Sask Politics thread or something?

[The Bess]

the difference between capitalism and socialism is in capitalism it is men exploiting men in socialism it is the other way around. so do we know if tunnels downtown would be better than skywalks? maybe some ex U of S can help with that

[roryn1]

I’d be 100% supportive of a social programming solutions style thread - as long as it’s all positive discussion. It deserves to be on a construction thread because developers definitely don’t consider Saskatoon when our crime rate is so high. Our messy social programming system in Winnipeg, Sask, Regina, and Edmonton are why our cities are so high on the crime severity index.

This article sums up how messy our system is: https://thestarphoenix.com/news/loca...wn-enforcement

I’ll create one!

[YXE]

What's up with the Imagine Idylwyld project?

[Oiler]

Just please stop.... Yeah social issues are important and relevant to construction/developers, but I can almost guarantee you that nearly zero people are here to discuss/read it in this level of detail. And we certainly aren't here to read two people argue about it and get personal. Let's just give it up and move on... my god. You both were inappropriate . But whatever, just flipping move on. Please don't respond to me, please don't tell me how it is ironic that I am posting about moving on. Just please do it, for all of us... including you two. You usually both have great input and discussion (including the high level touching on social topics), but fuck it was frustrating to catch up on reading this forum this morning.

As for Tee's, don't get too excited. I hear they are just closing it in from the elements and it will be on long term hold, possibly sold.

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[Oiler]

Originally Posted by Ricopedra

A little late to the party, Oiler, but you're right. djforsberg and phone were completely out of line and ruffled many local feathers. They should be ashamed of themselves;>)

haha sure. glad to see some humour in this all....

Anyone know the if the library was awarded to an architect? I'm curious to know if a local architect will be involved or it will go out of province again like the rRemai

[The Bess]

Usually don't post non related construction but this was getting boring (dforsberg) and yes what about the mayor candidate Zubair Sheikh proposing an indoor amusement park to get more tourism?

[The Bess]

Nice language and still boring, I won't comment on this anymore i saw what happened on Regina thread. So you can have the last word

[The Bess]

Not sure if anyones interested but here are some statistics on where Saskatoon is in relation to the economy.

https://sreda.com/economic-indicators/

[Crisis]

Guys, roryn1 started a new thread that is appropriate for the discussion of drug addiction and homelessness. Let's try to keep the Construction thread focused on construction.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/sho...d.php?t=244530

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[Sask.ks]

Has anyone else noticed the sign up for The Grove in university heights?

http://https://www.thegrovesaskatoon.com/

Not a bad looking building!

[alt_center]

Originally Posted by Sask.ks

Has anyone else noticed the sign up for The Grove in university heights?

https://www.thegrovesaskatoon.com/

Not a bad looking building!

I've definitely seen worse looking buildings... the ground floor looks a little brutal.

Some density by right beside a future BRT station with rapid service to Preston Crossing, U of S and downtown. Walking distance to shopping and parks. It's not up to Burnaby or Surrey standards but for Saskatoon I think it's a decent effort.

BTW welcome to the forum.