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Old Posted May 29, 2008, 11:25 PM
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wow the freedom tower is right on the spot of 6 wtc
     
     
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Old Posted May 29, 2008, 11:26 PM
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Check this out. If the renderings are right, it's pretty close.

Nice overlap, Jack. Gives an interesting view of where things are located that some people might not have seen.

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Old Posted May 29, 2008, 11:35 PM
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where the plaza once stud now trees will stand
     
     
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Old Posted May 29, 2008, 11:41 PM
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It will be interesting to see where they will put The Sphere, if they so choose to place it back. It would be nice to see it make a return.
     
     
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Old Posted May 30, 2008, 12:21 AM
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June 24, 2006

With Tower Yet to Rise, Cornerstone Leaves Town
By DAVID W. DUNLAP
The 20-ton cornerstone of the Freedom Tower was carted off from the World Trade Center site early yesterday, nearly two years after it was ceremoniously set in place on July 4, with its silvered, chiseled letters proclaiming it a "tribute to the enduring spirit of freedom."

No one made a speech yesterday morning. No one sang "God Bless America." No one read from the Declaration of Independence.

Instead, the cornerstone was placed on a truck and returned to Innovative Stone in Hauppauge, N.Y., where it will remain for as long as two years until it returns to ground zero.

About 6:30 a.m., the five-and-a-half-foot-high block of Adirondack granite was hoisted by crane from its place near the temporary PATH terminal, said Mel Ruffini, a senior vice president of the Tishman Construction Corporation, which is building the Freedom Tower for Silverstein Properties on behalf of the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey.

Then it was lowered onto a flatbed truck and covered in a tarp. By 7:15, it was rolling up the long ramp out of the ground zero pit, headed for Innovative Stone on Long Island, where it had been cut, honed, polished and inscribed in 2004. It arrived safely three hours later, said Karen Pearse, the chief executive at Innovative.

The cornerstone will be kept there in a plexiglass case, viewable by appointment.

"It needs to be repositioned to make sense in the new building," said David Worsley, a senior vice president and the director of construction at Silverstein Properties.

When the Freedom Tower was redesigned last year because of security concerns, the cornerstone's location was rendered obsolete. The architects shifted the building's edge about 40 feet to the west, leaving the cornerstone standing outside the bounds of the reconfigured tower.

But stand it did, protected under a blue plywood enclosure, while the tower project faced delay after delay.

Its absence carries a couple of meanings. Obviously, it is an acknowledgment that much of what passed for progress at ground zero to date has been longer on symbolism than on substance.

On the other hand, with the cornerstone gone, the foundation subcontractor, Laquila Construction, can begin excavating the east side of the tower site to prepare it for the underground infrastructure.

When he presided over the cornerstone-laying two years ago, Gov. George E. Pataki declared, "Today, we build the Freedom Tower."

As it turned out, the building could not start until the cornerstone was removed.
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Pataki was such a tool.
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umm isnt that a 2 year old article?
     
     
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Old Posted May 30, 2008, 1:40 AM
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haha weird^^
     
     
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Old Posted May 30, 2008, 2:21 AM
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WOW... that is weird. I news googled "Freedom Tower" and sorted by most recent...

http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&tab=wn&ned=&q=%22Freedom+tower%22&btnG=Search+News

Anyway: it's news to ME that the Freedom Stone was removed...
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Old Posted May 30, 2008, 3:34 AM
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Freedom Stone. What the hell?
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Old Posted May 30, 2008, 1:47 PM
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Anyway: it's news to ME that the Freedom Stone was removed...

LOL, where have you been?
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Lol at Pataki!
     
     
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Did they remake the Old WTC Plaza Fountain somewhere else in the complex?
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Old Posted May 30, 2008, 6:26 PM
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Freedom Stone. What the hell?
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WTC Subway Tunnel To Be "Elevated"


From: NY1

http://www.ny1.com/ny1/content/index.jsp?stid=1&aid=82202


Lower Manhattan will soon be getting an elevated subway line -- only it's not a new line and riders won’t know they’re above ground. NY1’s Bobby Cuza filed the following report.

Though you wouldn't know from looking at it, the 1 train runs right through the center of the World Trade Center site, in this black concrete tunnel box. Only it's becoming less and less accurate to call it a subway.

That's because the Port Authority has transferred the weight of the tunnel onto steel supports and is now digging out the ground underneath. Soon, the tunnel will be suspended in midair.

"If you come back in a couple of months, it will be looking like it's on stilts. It'll look like some of the old railway trestles you see in the Rocky Mountains in the late 1870s," said Port Authority Chief Geotechnical Engineer Raymond Sandiford.

The work is necessary because the space beneath the tunnel will eventually become part of the Trade Center basement.

For now there are small underpasses beneath the tunnel, only about enough room for workers and small machinery to maneuver below as they excavate. Eventually the subway tunnel will stand about 50 feet in the air, on what are known as mini-piles that have been drilled deep into bedrock.

"We're basically building this thing on stilts- about 450 stilts. There are 450 mini-piles that we had to put in there," said Port Authority Program Director Mark Pagliettini.

Before 9/11, there was actually a station there. The Cortlandt Street stop on what was then the 1 and 9 lines. But the collapse of the World Trade Center destroyed not only the station, but also a portion of the tunnel itself.

The MTA rebuilt that segment of tunnel and eventually plans to reopen the Cortlandt Street station, though by then the tunnel will be back underground.

"You'll actually see, on top of the subway will be a street. Greenwich Street will be reinstated as a street. So it'll look just like Church Street," said Sandiford. "You'll have curbs. You'll have fire hydrants and lights. Underneath it will be the subway. And underneath that will actually be the basement to the expanded Trade Center."

Unlike the PATH train, which is exposed to light as it passes through the Trade Center, there is no view of the site for riders on the 1 train.

In fact, though some daylight is visible out the window, most riders probably have no idea of the monumental engineering project going on right beneath them.

- Bobby Cuza
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Off topic posts gone. Keep it on topic guys. This ain't the chat.
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Old Posted May 31, 2008, 4:08 PM
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What's really mind boggling is that Vornado is set to build a "Twin World Trade Center" uptown!

Forget Twin Towers... Twin Centers!
this is a little old but is this really going to be built?
     
     
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this is a little old but is this really going to be built?
Bearing in mind what Swede said about keeping this thread "on topic," let me just say that you're right, that IS an old post. I believe I was referring to the proposed Vornado project centered around Moynihan Station/Madison Square Garden. There is a thread about that project, but my quick answer to your question is: I don't know anymore. Last I heard, no one is sure what will become of the idea of putting MSG into the Farley building, and Vornado was seeking to distribute air rights to several shorter towers rather than the supertalls they originally talked about. NYguy can probably answer your question better than I, though.
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"You'll actually see, on top of the subway will be a street. Greenwich Street will be reinstated as a street. So it'll look just like Church Street," said Sandiford. "You'll have curbs. You'll have fire hydrants and lights. Underneath it will be the subway. And underneath that will actually be the basement to the expanded Trade Center."
Stuff like this is half the reason I read this site. You have to love the engineering that goes on in modern cities.
     
     
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Trying to keep on topic here...sorry to hear about the crane accident yesterday at 91st & 1st. Anyway, with a renewed focus now on construction cranes and properly inspecting them, is there any chance the FT could be delayed due to Crane Inspections?
     
     
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