Canadian Airport Thread II

[MountainView]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

All PD YHZ to YOW, YUL & YYT flights are being upgauged from the DH4 to the E95: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...859352251.html

Wonder where the surplus DH4 capacity will be deployed to.

I understand Porter will be receiving additional E2s, but this jet service seems to coincide with the end of the Florida flying... Or does that end in April.

[peytol]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

All PD YHZ to YOW, YUL & YYT flights are being upgauged from the DH4 to the E95: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...859352251.html

Wonder where the surplus DH4 capacity will be deployed to.

If Jazz and Encore are examples to go by, it will be used to keep YTZ staffed.

I have no idea about Porters pilot staffing, but I could see them focusing on the E2 ops for recruiting, pulling east coast Q flying could keep a normal schedule at YTZ. Much like Jazz has done by leaving YYC, and Encore at YYZ. But maybe porter is having no problems hiring for the Q and E2.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by MountainView

I understand Porter will be receiving additional E2s, but this jet service seems to coincide with the end of the Florida flying... Or does that end in April.

That all ends on April 30th, so these routes will evidently be covered by new aircraft deliveries. The Florida flying time, which amounts to about 45 hours a day flight time, might partially be the YUL-YYC/YEG & YOW-YWG new flying that starts in May. Those three routes total about 23 hours or a bit over half of Florida.

[hollywoodcory]

WS has increased YYC-FCO to daily in S24. Their online timetable briefly showed this a few weeks ago, but it’s now loaded/bookable as such.

Doesn’t look like it came at the expense of anything that I can see.

Also it appears WS is no longer interested in obtaining AMS slots:
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/bert-...ium=member_ios

[Dominion301]

PD and AS announce interline agreement: Here's the PR: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...845345438.html - reciprocal FF program agreements help too.

[Ozabald]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

PD and AS announce interline agreement: Here's the PR: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...845345438.html - reciprocal FF program agreements help too.

Will Porter establish a Western hub at YVR to capture feed traffic from AS SEA/PDX flights; have service to SEA and PDX; or both?

[nname]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

PD and AS announce interline agreement: Here's the PR: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...845345438.html - reciprocal FF program agreements help too.

The agreement was accidentally posted on PD website last week, as reported in:

https://twitter.com/IshrionA/status/1732772668900855942

Notice that YVR was removed in the final version (https://www.flyporter.com/en/about-p...rline-partners)

It seems like PD have a habit of accidentally post stuff on their website long before they're intended to go live...

[casper]

Originally Posted by nname

The agreement was accidentally posted on PD website last week, as reported in:

https://twitter.com/IshrionA/status/1732772668900855942

Notice that YVR was removed in the final version (https://www.flyporter.com/en/about-p...rline-partners)

It seems like PD have a habit of accidentally post stuff on their website long before they're intended to go live...

Disappointing.

Having some Dash-8s based in Vancouver to connect Vancouver Island with Porter/Alaska through Vancouver would have been idea.

Alaska is only flying once a day into Victoria and while WestJet and Alaska do interline the timing sometimes is not great. More options would have been good.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by thenoflyzone

New AC numbers. (Reminder, these are weekly departure numbers.)

YYZ 1662
YUL 871
YVR 913 (An increase from 2 weeks ago. First time I've seen it higher than YUL since I started posting these since last August.)
YYC 200 (first time this number is below YOW's departure count)
YOW 204
YHZ 165
YEG 141
YWG 83

Updated numbers. They are exactly the same as the ones above from a month ago.

[thenoflyzone]

YUL posted October 2023 numbers. First percentage is Y.O.Y increase, second percentage in parenthesis is vs. same month in 2019.

https://www.admtl.com/sites/default/...ats_oct_EN.pdf

Total: 1,778,574 +15.6% (+9.5%)

Domestic: 592,688 +9.7% (-5.4%) (still well below 2019 numbers)
Transborder: 408.195 +13.7% (+9.2%)
International: 777,691 +21.5% (+24.6%) (That's a huge % increase over 2019 numbers, the highest it's been all year, in fact)

YTD total: 17,970,603 +36.3% (+3.5%)

International numbers are shattering records every single month. YUL should finish the year with around 21.2 or 21.3 million passengers. That's a million more passengers than in 2019. An impressive feat, considering domestic traffic is still 8% below 2019 numbers, YTD.

PD launching domestic transcons should help erase part of that deficit next year.

[Dominion301]

Originally Posted by Ozabald

Will Porter establish a Western hub at YVR to capture feed traffic from AS SEA/PDX flights; have service to SEA and PDX; or both?

Not anytime soon, but the PR does say that western PD/AS stations will start interlining in a few months sometime in Q1 of 2024. At this point that means connecting SEA with YOW/YYZ/YUL over YVR/YEG/YYC.

The AS interline certainly helps build the case for YOW-SFO/LAX in 2025 or 2026 as there will be connections possible on both ends if flights are timed properly.

[Dominion301]

AC announced their North American summer schedule: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...891514666.html

Two new cities added: CHS and TQO - the latter is Tulum, Mexico and is a new alternate airport to CUN, the Riviera Maya, and the Yucatan Peninsula. It's about 145 km from CUN.

[hollywoodcory]

WS adding its second Asian destination in S24, YYC-ICN starting in May.

https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/news/2...-calgary-to-su

The 787 fleet is going to be stretched to its limit.

[kwoldtimer]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

AC announced their North American summer schedule: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...891514666.html

Two new cities added: CHS and TQO - the latter is Tulum, Mexico and is a new alternate airport to CUN, the Riviera Maya, and the Yucatan Peninsula. It's about 145 km from CUN.

I think they just opened a new terminal in Tulum.

[hollywoodcory]

Originally Posted by kwoldtimer

I think they just opened a new terminal in Tulum.

It just opened this month, with international service opening next year. Most of the US carriers have already announced intentions to serve Tulum - with AC being the first Canadian airline to announce service.

[Justanothermember]

Originally Posted by Dominion301

AC announced their North American summer schedule: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...891514666.html

Two new cities added: CHS and TQO - the latter is Tulum, Mexico and is a new alternate airport to CUN, the Riviera Maya, and the Yucatan Peninsula. It's about 145 km from CUN.

It looks like YEG-YOW on AC has been scrapped altogether as it doesn't appear in the flight booking schedule at all for next summer.

[Base]

Originally Posted by Justanothermember

It looks like YEG-YOW on AC has been scrapped altogether as it doesn't appear in the flight booking schedule at all for next summer.

Sad indeed to lose them as a competitor here but the route makes more sense for Porter & Westjet. Porter will be YEG-YOW double daily May 8th which will help a bit.

[LO 044]

I see YUL is getting quite the jump in flights. Noticed YEG-YUL jumps to 3x daily which I think is beneficial. Although, I like the options YUL has when connecting via the east, I always worry about a delayed international flight returning to YUL thus missing the connection to YEG so I opt for YYZ. This increase may change my mind.

What is YUL's capacity with all these increases? Everyone keeps on saying YUL is too busy and new entrants have trouble getting slots so to speak yet AC seems to constantly increase flights to/from YUL.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by LO 044

What is YUL's capacity with all these increases? Everyone keeps on saying YUL is too busy and new entrants have trouble getting slots so to speak yet AC seems to constantly increase flights to/from YUL.

From what I heard when they loaded YUL-ARN in the schedules a couple of months back, AC is adding flights without really checking with ADM if gates are actually available. Not a good sign!

There aren't enough gates (even remote ones) for all these additions. I can guarantee you that. Just like the last 2 summers, if your flight arrives between 4 and 8pm, expect to land and go to the de-ice facility to wait for a gate next summer. And this on a good day ! Now throw in some thunderstorms/IROPS, and shit will start hitting the fan pretty fast !

PD can't build the YHU terminal fast enough ! AC (and ADM) will be extremely happy to see some carriers like WS and F8 move all or some of their ops to YHU, freeing up space for them at YUL.

[hehehe]

Originally Posted by hollywoodcory

WS adding its second Asian destination in S24, YYC-ICN starting in May.

https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/news/2...-calgary-to-su

The 787 fleet is going to be stretched to its limit.

They have to be seriously considering taking more 787s now?