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First we hear that things are going well, then we hear that there's a stumbling block, then again, we hear that everything is all peaches and cream.

And BTW, I thought the PA approved this thing last spring around the time Silverstein had initiated construction of the tower. What on earth were they objecting to just now?
     
     
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NYGUY does this mean that there are no more potential roadblocks for the Freedom Tower?

No more roadblocks, unless there's a strike or something. It's a done deal. People will continue to write opinions on the matter of whether it should be built or not, at least until the tower is more than half leased. But there's no turning back now.
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So we should see the erection of a perminant crane today and some major core work going on?
     
     
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Reeelaaxxxxx, Daqaun. Nothing is being delayed by this ad. And you do know who Durst is, correct? If so you wouldn't be saying he needs to get a life.

The one thing I applaud them for saying is the blurb at the bottom of their ad, talking about naming the FT as being a WTC tower instead, since I hate the current name. Although, if you think about it, their logic is a bit goofy because they say why steal a name in use elsewhere when we already have our own - and yet by now most every city of medium or greater size has some mundane office building/complex named the "World Trade Center," including one here in Boston. Oh well, I guess it is NY's after all.


It's just that practically every time when things seem to be going smoothly with getting the tower built, some big real estate tycoon or some other person in politics want to try to put the tower at a standstill.

Kind of makes you wonder if there was this much red tape and BS going on when the Twins were getting started.
     
     
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Office vacancies down to pre-9/11 levels around WTC site in Lower Manhattan

February 25, 2007 (NEW YORK) - Rents are up and vacancies are down to pre-Sept. 11 levels in lower Manhattan's commercial real estate market.

The World Financial Center, just across the street from the World Trade Center site, is nearly full. And six years before its planned opening, private investors want to buy the Freedom Tower, the replacement skyscraper often derided as a new terrorist target.
"Six months ago, people would say that would be absolutely inconceivable," deputy mayor Dan Doctoroff said of interest in the long-delayed replacement for the destroyed twin towers. "It's not just one, but several parties that are interested in it."

More than five years after the terrorist attacks created a gaping hole in the Manhattan commercial real estate market, doubts are slowly fading about the return of the downtown financial district.

"We're in a very good situation in lower Manhattan. We really didn't expect to be there," said Kathryn Wylde, president of the Partnership for New York City, a business leaders' group.

The hijacked airliners that leveled the twin towers destroyed 13 million square feet of office space in the trade center complex alone, most of which hasn't yet been rebuilt. Companies in or near the trade center fled to midtown Manhattan, New Jersey and Connecticut.

The vacancy rate for the best office space in downtown Manhattan -- the nation's third-largest commercial market -- hit 17 percent in 2002, according to the Cushman & Wakefield real estate firm. At the end of last year, it was close to 7 percent, Cushman & Wakefield said. Another firm, Colliers ABR Inc., said its vacancy rate was at 6.8 percent last month, its lowest since August 2001 and down from 12.3 percent a year ago.

Monthly rents, around $35 a square foot two years ago, are at $45 today, the firms say. Some developers, including trade center developer Larry Silverstein, are signing $70-a-square-foot deals for space in 7 World Trade Center, which was rebuilt and is two-thirds leased since opening last May.

"To most observers, these signs were not as readable for them as they were for me and for others like me in the business," said Silverstein, who leased the trade center weeks before the terror attack and is building three new towers on the site. "I said to myself, it's just a question of time."

Silverstein and others have several theories why the market has rebounded -- the creation of thousands of new apartments downtown, giving companies the opportunity to have employees work close to home; billions of dollars to rebuild two major transit hubs, although most work won't be complete for at least two years; and the much more expensive, space-squeezed midtown Manhattan market.

"It's the low-cost alternative to midtown," said Melissa Coley, spokeswoman for Brookfield Properties, which owns most of the World Financial Center and other buildings near the trade center. "Plus, there's no space in midtown."

Still, politicians and prospective tenants have continued to express doubts in the success of new office towers at the trade center site, particularly the 1,776-foot Freedom Tower. Several companies have said in recent months they weren't interested, citing higher-than-average prices for downtown and fears that it would become a magnet for terrorism.

But recently, investment banks, hedge funds and others have expressed interest in buying the tower -- which has a construction budget of $2.9 billion -- from the government agency that owns it.

Said Wylde: "I think it's gone from a situation where while people are still not jumping up and down to be the first to move in, increasingly it's seen as a valuable long-term investment."

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'FREEDOM' FOR SALE - PLEASE


February 21, 2007 -- Gov. Spitzer, overcoming some understandable reservations on the Freedom Tower, has decided to go ahead with construction.
"It is clear that after long delay this project - while it may not have been the one we would have designed - must be built and we must get moving," he said.

Not exactly gung-ho, we'd say.

With good reason: The faulty design, inattention to security, bureaucratic inertia and other missteps by his predecessor have left a void at Ground Zero more than five years after 9/11.

Pataki's Pit, as it were.

Spitzer wasn't left a lot of options.

One of them, happily, could be to take advantage of the hyper-hot commercial real-estate market in lower Manhattan and find a private-sector buyer for the Freedom Tower.

Not so long ago, this would have been a preposterous notion.

No one, it seemed, would voluntarily return to Ground Zero - certainly no private-sector interests.

This no longer is the case.

Developer Larry Silverstein's reconstructed 7 World Trade Center building is filling rapidly, and new construction is sprouting wherever there is sufficient space downtown.

And, just last week, The Post reported that the Blackstone Group, an investment consortium, has an eye on the Freedom Tower - with a possible price tag in excess of $3 billion. Indeed, several real-estate-development firms have also expressed interest in the building. (The more, the merrier!)


The original World Trade Center languished for years under the ownership of the Port Authority; ironically, lease of the property to Silverstein was completed only weeks before 9/11.

True, in the immediate wake of the attacks, it made some sense for the PA and other government agencies to become primary tenants in the Freedom Tower.

But, again, that fear no longer exists.

Now, if anything, the subsidized government office space stands to retard growth rather than being a magnet for it.

As the Post's Steve Cuozzo has reported, the rents government agencies would pay for office space in the Freedom Tower at its estimated completion date in six years - $58.50 per square foot - are well below what comparable space is going for today in nearby buildings.

Just imagine what the divergence will be in six or seven years.

So, governor: What about selling the tower?

"We will make that decision . . . when and if [it] becomes an [economic] possibility," said Spitzer yesterday.

"I do not have any opposition at a philosophical level," he added.

Hold that thought, governor.
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i got a dvd from the library produced by PBS about the planning of the WTC. the rockerfeller's had a huge battle to get them built and it took somewhere around 20 years to do it.
really an amazing documentary.
     
     
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The original plan to build a giant megaplex center though, goes all the way back to '46 when the state and city officials had first thought of the idea.

To equal or rival the Rockafeller Center. Even though massive twin towers were not part of the plan back then. Not until Minoru Yamasaki was given the job of designing and building the complex.

I'd like to buy that DVD if I can get it somewhere!
     
     
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THE SLOW CLIMB BACK
Signs of progress at Ground Zero


Monday, February 26, 2007
BY RON MARSICO

NEW YORK -- Dirt mounds, deep trenches, sprouting metal rods and columns, concrete foundations and cranes are finally dotting Ground Zero's expansive pit, nearly five years after the last twisted World Trade Center ruins were carted away.

After years of intense controversy, nasty squabbling and frustrating delays, progress is palpable at the devastated site of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

Seven 60-foot-tall columns for the Freedom Tower's southern facade are in place, as is much of the 1,776-foot skyscraper's foundation. Steel column nubs marking the Twin Towers' one-square-acre perimeters have been protected, and foundation work has begun on the 9/11 Memorial.

Workers are readying another part of the site for Spanish architect Santiago Calatrava's Phoenix-like PATH rail hub. Long-buried remnants of the old Hudson and Manhattan Railroad are being demolished for office space. A huge concrete wall -- identical to the one created in the 1960s for the Twin Towers -- is being erected on the site's eastern section to extend a protective "bathtub" to keep the ever-churning Hudson River from infiltrating.

Roughly 300 construction workers clamber over the site on any given day, an advance guard on as much as a $15 billion project that eventually will require upward of 3,000 workers and take at least another half decade to complete.

"You're basically rebuilding a city," said Steven Plate, a director with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey who is overseeing work at Ground Zero. "We're building four different Empire State Buildings at one time."

In addition to the massive Freedom Tower, which for now will be owned by the Port Authority, three other skyscrapers are set to rise. Office towers 2, 3 and 4 -- slated for 78, 71 and 61 stories, respectively -- will be built by developer Larry Silverstein, who leased the World Trade Center just six weeks before 9/11.

Before work can begin on Silverstein's towers -- slated for completion in 2012 -- the Port Authority must finish the eastern "bathtub," with a major section due by year's end and the entire wall by mid-2008. Silverstein's World Trade Center 7, located just north of Ground Zero, was rebuilt and opened last year.

Nearly three-quarters of the massive concrete foundation for the Freedom Tower has been poured, with 72 rock anchors set in deep bedrock about 150 feet below street level. About 780 tons of steel -- comprising the south facade columns and foundation support rods known as rebar -- have been erected.

"It's a long time coming," said Carmine Castellano, the Freedom Tower's superintendent for Tishman Construction Co., noting the skyscraper's frame will start poking out of Ground Zero's 70-foot pit sometime next year. "Once we hit street level, then it will fly."

At that point, steel columns and beams should be heading skyward as fast as two floors a week, Castellano added.


Before Silverstein and the Port Authority hammered out a revised lease deal last year, bickering between the two sides contributed to extensive delays at Ground Zero. Then there were redesigns prompted by unpopular early proposals and, later, security concerns over the Freedom Tower.

The 9/11 Memorial brought its own share of controversy, a battleground where designers and victims' families sparred and cost overruns threatened to doom the project. Today, those fights still go on and the price tag has been capped at $500 million. Yellow payloaders have been busy at the 9/11 Memorial site, where work on the foundations and footings are about 30 percent complete.

The gargantuan foundation for the new PATH hub similarly churns forward, designed to replace the temporary station that opened in 2003. It is scheduled for completion in 2009.

Work at Ground Zero is a vastly complex labyrinth of interlocking and intersecting projects. PATH trains continue to enter the temporary station, for example, curtailing blasting and forcing some work to off-peak hours.

"This project is so complex -- it's unprecedented," said Plate, noting the agency's chairman has likened it to solving a Rubik's Cube. "You keep turning until everything falls into place."

The Freedom Tower, which would eclipse the Sears Tower in Chicago as the nation's tallest building, is considered the most symbolic and economically risky of the planned projects. Critics deride the design -- likening its truck bomb-resistant base to a bunker -- and question whether prospective tenants will brave a potential terrorist target.

But last week was a good one for the building's supporters.

On Tuesday, New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer, who once termed the building a "white elephant," threw his support behind the current design. Two days later, the Port Authority approved $492 million for early-stage construction and consulting contracts.

Though much of Ground Zero's rebuilding will be borne by 9/11 insurance proceeds, federal government reimbursements and tax-exempt bonds, potential cost overruns loom.

Scaling back the memorial probably saved hundreds of millions of dollars, and earlier this month the Port Authority was forced to hurriedly promise cost-cutting at the PATH hub after a contractor estimated the cost could balloon to $3.4 billion -- up from the original $2.2 billion estimate. The Freedom Tower, also initially slated to cost $2.2 billion, has seen the figure creep closer to $2.9 billion, though officials point out original estimates didn't include things like brokerage and marketing fees.

"It's going to be a struggle to contain costs right to the bitter end," said Port Authority Chairman Anthony Coscia, who said it is imperative to protect the agency's financial health even as it takes a greater role at the site.

"We have essentially taken over the lion's share of work at the site, beginning in April 2006," said Coscia, who is hopeful Ground Zero's rebirth will show "we can recreate the Port Authority so it can make a significant difference."

Everyone involved with the project also is haunted by the constant, somber reminder of what happened at Ground Zero.

"It's not just a project for us," said Plate, alluding to the devastation 9/11 wreaked on the Port Authority. "We lost our home. We lost 84 of our own."

Castellano, the Tishman superintendent, said the Freedom Tower is the rare project that allows him to rise at 3:45 a.m. each workday with minimum griping.

"I'm motivated to be working here," said Castellano, "building a piece of American history."
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here is a link to the PBS site to purchase the dvd.

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[b]"Plus, there's no space in midtown." (Copyright 2007 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
Preposterous. How about the whole west side, south midtown north of ESB, and east side around trump world tower. Many many lowrises with only shops that would sell out in a millisecond.
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Preposterous. How about the whole west side, south midtown north of ESB, and east side around trump world tower. Many many lowrises with only shops that would sell out in a millisecond.
Not preposterous at all. The author is not talking about space for a retail branch of chase or duane reade, they are talking about available space for companies looking for space, a company looking for say a hundred thousand square feet of space for say a thousand employees is hard pressed in today’s market.
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Preposterous. How about the whole west side, south midtown north of ESB, and east side around trump world tower. Many many lowrises with only shops that would sell out in a millisecond.


Oh thanks!

But I just remembered the name of the show and remembered that I already have this program. I recorded it when it came on. It's about three hours long.

But thanks anyway. I still might get it just for the hell of it!
     
     
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I heard that the core was supposed to rise by the end of February.
Looks like they missed that expectation.
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I heard that the core was supposed to rise by the end of February.
Looks like they missed that expectation.


And March 1st is right around the corner. Some things with the tower are still lagging behind a little bit.

Hell, they're just now getting around to awarding out additional contract work for the tower, such as the interior walls, ceilings, floors, HVAC, elevators and escelators, etc...

The person whom to blame for all this has left office.

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Now that Gov. Eliot Spitzer has blessed the Freedom Tower and OK'd the Port Authority's plan to bid out $500 million in new contracts, we wondered: will the PA shut the door on prospective tenant Beijing Vantone, which last week reneged on a letter of credit for the second time in 8 months?

No, says PA Executive Director Tony Shorris - but Vantone will have to prove its credit-worthiness before, not after, any talks get to the term-sheet stage, much less to a signed lease.

"We are not going to consummate anybody's lease or term sheet unless we think there's adequate financial security demonstrated," Shorris said.

Did that mean Vantone would have to show a letter of credit first? "Yes," Shorris said.

As The Post first reported last week, Vantone scuttled a signed lease with the owners of 195 Broadway by reneging on a promised letter of credit.

Last year, a deal with Larry Silverstein at 7 WTC fell apart for the exact same reason.

Vantone is believed to be interested in as much as 700,000 feet in the Freedom Tower, compared to 200,000 at the other locations.

Shorris said, "Vantone did approach us. We'll see what they're up to in this case. It's in our interest to pursue everything and I wouldn't rule out or rule in anybody."

Shorris said he hoped a tentative agreement with the state Office of General Services for 415,000 square feet, announced last fall, could be completed within a few months.

A larger possible lease with the Federal General Services Administration might take longer because it requires congressional approval.
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I walked by the site over the weekend on my way to lunch, and the site was quite active. When you look down from the West Side Highway overpass (the one near the Barclay-Vest Building) the core is quite distinguishable.

I highly suggest you take the time if your in the area to look directly up at 7 WTC right infront. The sight is amazing!!!!!!

And the DB Building Deconstruction is going smoothly. You can notice all the window panels are out, and the aluminum siding is vanishing rapidly. The top of the building is nearing being done. They should have this thing down by this winter if not sooner.
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February 28, 2007
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Lower Manhattan: A Relative Bargain but Filling Up Fast

By TERRY PRISTIN


It was not long ago that prospects for Lower Manhattan seemed so dire that many people predicted it would not survive as a financial center. Within days — even hours — of the destruction of the World Trade Center, a number of companies with offices in Lower Manhattan were searching for space in Midtown or outside the city.

Today, however, space is so tight in Lower Manhattan that the vacancy rate for prime buildings is only 5.1 percent, lower than in any other market but the Seattle suburb of Bellevue, said Steven E. Coutts, a senior vice president at Studley, a company that specializes in tenant representation.

Of course, the 89.5-million-square-foot office market below Chambers Street is 20.3 million square feet smaller than it was before the terrorist attacks — both because of the destruction of the World Trade Center and the conversion of 59 older office buildings into condominiums since 2002.

But the conversion trend appears to have run its course, one of many signs that the downtown office market has bounced back. A total of 5.6 million square feet were leased last year, a 64 percent increase from 2005, according to Cushman & Wakefield. The decline in the overall vacancy rate — from 10.6 percent to 8.4 percent — was more pronounced than it was in Midtown, where the vacancy rate fell to 6.4 percent from 7.8 percent during the period.

Yesterday, another new lease was signed downtown, as Legg Mason, a financial company, agreed to occupy 97,000 square feet at 55 Water St., according to a spokesman for CB Richard Ellis, which represented the building and the tenant.

In the largest lease signed during the last year, Moody’s Investors Service took 589,000 square feet at 7 World Trade Center, the first new office tower in Lower Manhattan in 20 years. The company is about to take two more floors, said John M. Cefaly, the Cushman vice chairman who represents Moody’s. “Their business has grown,” he said. “They went back and reassessed their head counts.”

JPMorgan Chase is negotiating with the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey to build a 1.6-million-square-foot tower on the site on Liberty Street where the long-awaited demolition of the heavily damaged Deutsche Bank is finally under way. The site had been intended for a residential building.

Average annual rents in Lower Manhattan have been climbing steadily but are still cheaper than in 2000 — $41.36 a square foot compared with $43.24, Mr. Coutts said. At 7 World Trade Center, Larry A. Silverstein, the developer, is asking $70 a square foot for the top floors.

Mr. Silverstein had leased those floors to Beijing Vantone, a Chinese real estate company, but the agreement collapsed after the tenant could not produce a letter of credit.

Last month, Beijing Vantone agreed to lease the top three floors of 195 Broadway, a 28-story landmark in Lower Manhattan that once served as the headquarters of the American Telephone and Telegraph Company. But again, the deal fell apart over a missing letter of credit.

“Although we’re disappointed, we’re not concerned because the market is very robust, as robust as I’ve seen in 25 years,” said David W. Levinson, the chief executive of L&L Holding Company, the owner of 195 Broadway.

Several factors have combined to enhance downtown’s appeal. Office rents are a bargain compared with the red-hot Midtown market, where the average annual rent is about $57 a square foot. The political wrangling over the rebuilding of the World Trade Center site is over, and work on the site is under way. The World Trade Center transit hub and the new Fulton Street Transit Center are closer to completion. The residential population has grown by 16,000 since the terrorist attacks, to 39,000, according to the Downtown Alliance, a business group, making the neighborhood more inviting after dark.

“A lot of critical factors have fallen into place,” said Sheldon L. Cohen, a senior managing director of CB Richard Ellis. “The political will has coalesced.” Though some companies like Lehman Brothers and Bank of America that lost or gave up space downtown because of the attacks have found permanent homes in Midtown, many tenants have returned. Aon, for example, was able to sublease the space it took at 55 East 52nd Street at a profit, and it signed a new lease for more than 221,000 square feet at 199 Water St.

But most of the downtown space is being leased to companies like Moody’s that never left the neighborhood, with only about 15 percent going to tenants that are moving from Midtown, Mr. Coutts said.

Among those is ABN Amro, a Dutch financial services company, which was able to find another tenant for its costly offices at Park Avenue Plaza on East 52nd Street. The company took nearly 139,000 square feet at 7 World Trade Center for about $59 a square foot.

At the World Financial Center, where occupancy fell to 65 percent after the attacks, the four buildings are almost fully leased, said Richard B. Clark, chief executive of Brookfield Properties, which owns the eight-million-square-foot complex.

That could change if Merrill Lynch relocates when its lease expires in 2013. The company has been looking at other sites, including the complex Brookfield is building on Ninth Avenue between 31st and 33rd Streets and the buildings being developed by Mr. Silverstein on the World Trade Center site. The company wants to create trading floors and is angling for subsidies. A rival, Goldman Sachs, got $1.65 billion in tax-free bonds and more than $115 million in other incentives for the new tower it is building on West Street.

“Merrill will take into account all economic factors in making a decision,” said the company’s broker, Peter Riguardi, president of the New York region for Jones Lang LaSalle. “If benefits are available, that would be part of their decision-making process.” He said a decision was likely this summer.

Lower Manhattan has a more diverse roster of tenants than it used to, including architects, engineering firms and law firms, said Eric Deutsch, president of the Downtown Alliance. Still, “whatever the city and state can do to keep anchor tenants downtown would be enormously helpful,” he said. “Companies like Merrill Lynch represent a huge part of the fabric of downtown.”

But city and state officials say that the Goldman Sachs deal would not serve as a model for other corporate tenants. “This is not the time to ask for huge subsidies,” said Avi Schick, the president of the Empire State Development Corporation, the state’s development arm.

Then, too, there is the question of what will happen to the market when Mr. Silverstein’s new buildings are completed in 2011 and 2012, adding 6.2 million square feet.

“If we continue at the pace we’re going, the market will absolutely need it,” said Mr. Clark of Brookfield.

At the same time, many real estate specialists say the 2.6-million-square-foot Freedom Tower, also on the World Trade Center site is a mistake, though most are not willing to say so publicly. Among the few willing to speak out are the developers Douglas Durst and Anthony E. Malkin. They recently ran ads in New York newspapers calling the tower “the legacy of poor planning and decision-making by the Pataki administration” with a design that is “too expensive to build and cumbersome for tenants.”

“We respectfully propose rethinking these plans,” they said.
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