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Old Posted Oct 28, 2020, 6:18 PM
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Well said Ricopedra, I lived in Van for 7 years and you just learn to adjust your attitude. I also became more aware of my surroundings and avoided anything to skechy. but you are right many a person thanked you for your help even for a quarter. More than i get from some big box stores. Anyways I like the proposal and it would enhance the downtown. It will be a nice cluster when Baydo gets done.
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Old Posted Oct 28, 2020, 8:38 PM
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^^^You guys are really going to have to walk me through this. Even when I lived in Vancouver and went to school in the downtown Eastside, it was never like you guys are describing Saskatoon.

Why are all the drug addicts hanging around 25th st and Spadina, hassling folks? And why, while the police station so newly prominent just a few blocks away is there not more patrolling of an area that obviously needs help, to moderate these fackers? And what are they doing there outside in the winter? Is there no downtime from this dark pressure of poverty?

What I really think the problem is, is that Saskatonians have never experienced big city issues.
No this is not east hastings level crime activity, but it is extremely bad for a city as small as Saskatoon. If you extrapolated it to a Vancouver size city it is extremely worse than East Hastings. Most of the crime isn’t even getting reported by the police. For example my airbnb neighbour was being assaulted a few months ago and the airbnb owner didn’t even know since the police don’t record the unit numbers downtown. It’s too scary to live here much longer. This has been nonstop the last 4 years downtown, windows being smashed, fear of walking late at night. Density will help with it but obviously our social services need to help these people more. The police haven’t even been reporting the police calls to rental condos downtown related to assault - it’s insane. I’ve brought it up to our city councillor but she’s too focused on Nutana and is happy with the pocket change we’ve received from Sask Party to bandaid our social programming and services downtown to date. I’ve travelled way too many cities to know to know that it makes more sense to find a job outside of Saskatoon and sell my downtown condo than wait for Sask Party’s Social Services to fix the problem.
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2020, 5:38 AM
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I truly enjoy that the address information at the top of the letter was blacked out for privacy, but Trish's name was clear as day at the bottom. Someone had ONE job. Almost akin to finding a spelling or grammatical error in an edited news publication

Like most people have said, the "deficiencies" are laughable. Also, which of Trish's neighbours are complaining about a white wall replacing a gravel parking lot? I'm not saying it is an upgrade, but doesn't it have to be at least a wash ascetically speaking?!?
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2020, 6:26 PM
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Saskatoon’s violent crime rate increased by close to 13 per cent in the latest 2019 data, to 2,250 people per 100,000 last year from 1,995 per 100,000 people in 2018.

https://thestarphoenix.com/news/loca...jumped-in-2019
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Old Posted Oct 29, 2020, 8:48 PM
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Any pictures of Baydo project roryn1
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Old Posted Oct 30, 2020, 4:05 AM
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I was browsing through the documents on the appeals board for Meridian's Tower, and there's one document containing their arguments in favour of the appeal, which is an interesting read. This especially stood out:



It certainly pours cold water on any narrative of a predatory developer preying on a down-on-its-luck church.
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I often find these "headline" reports so misleading. It fails to acknowledge that the vast majority of these 'violent' crimes are NOT random. The threat to the general population is not as high as these reports often portray. This was acknowledged by 2 different profs at U of S and U of R who specialize in this area.

Nevertheless, the horrible increase in opioid overdoses this year once again points out to some of our social supports failing. (safe drug/injection site anyone????) And sometimes actual stats do not matter if the perception is that we are a crime city. Lots of work to do, regardless.

RE:Meridian
Good on them for working so closely with Knox Church and pursuing a mutually beneficial agreement with them. Hope the fact the church is so onside will calm the NIMBY"s down!
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2020, 3:22 PM
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The Knox Tower has now been made public and I sense(fear) there is going to be a lot of push back on this project. I always find the "negative" voices on issues tend to be the most vocal. So.....if you do support this project, make sure that your voice is heard via email/letter to city councilor and maybe let Meridian know on their Facebook page.

They got a lot of negativism on their Escala project which I thought may have soured them, so lets let them know that some of us DO support their innovative and quality work.

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Old Posted Oct 31, 2020, 5:32 PM
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This is sounding too much like the Regina thread got to be....lots of personal attacks and ongoing posts that had nothing to do with construction. Back to the topic please!!!
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2020, 9:46 PM
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This is sounding too much like the Regina thread got to be....lots of personal attacks and ongoing posts that had nothing to do with construction. Back to the topic please!!!
Agreed, if I wanted to read some undergrad seminar arguments about "neoliberal policies" I'd open a David Harvey book.

In boring suburban news, Taylor Street is about to be opened up to Wess Road (aka Hillcrest access road). Arbutus is building a bunch of apartments out by the Costco, probably because Solair fell through and they still want to ensure a captive market for the obviously struggling Meadows Market. That said it looks like a new grocery store is about to open there, of the "neighbourbood market" variety.

I have thought that if CP was ever to abandon its ROW and the city was to operate an LRT in its place, that Zimmerman Road area would make for a decent eastern terminus. While it is obviously soulless suburbia right now, I think there is some hidden potential for that node to become a transit village a la what the city envisions for Confed Suburban Centre, but only if an LRT can actually materialize along that route. Of course, this comes at the expense of downtown, but in such a hypothetical I would think it would be better suited for a walkable transit friendly area than Stonebridge.
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Old Posted Oct 31, 2020, 10:04 PM
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But you have to admit, it's relevant to the topic of downtown livability, the Lighthouse location, and perceived outflow of condo owners due to violent drug addicts around the University Bridge, no?
It's relevant to an extent, but indulging in half-baked arguments that vacillate between suing big pharma into inexistence (sic) and nationalizing the same industry winds up with things getting pretty off-track (and detached from reality, frankly).

Back to the street crime issue, I don't think that it's helpful to act like violent crime hasn't been rising or that it isn't linked to broader socioeconomic issues. We have to be honest and acknowledge that there is a problem, that it seems to be getting worse, and also face the fact that there isn't a "smoking gun" we can point to. In my view there are a few things that would help.

1. More eyes on the street, which developments like Knox Tower and Baydo Towers would bring.
2. More funds directed toward (sufficiently trained) community policing and harm-reduction agencies.
3. Decentralizing the Lighthouse into separate emergency shelter, low-income housing, soup kitchen etc and spread these throughout the downtown and other core areas.
4. Continued public investment into amenities that draw people downtown such as the new library and new arena.
5. Certain things to make winter more palatable, such as warming shelters
6. Improve public transit to facilitate and promote people circulating through downtown and spending time there

There are other things such as downtown festivals and public events that Saskatoon already does quite well I'd say. We also do a good job of having cultural draws (Remai, Ukrainian Museum, Wonderhub, Kinsmen Park, Persephone, Shakespeare on the Saskatchewan).

We want to promote a good investment climate downtown both for retailers/food service/nightlife, for tourism more generally, for condo residents, and for corporate citizens. These things feed into each other but the result will hopefully be an increased tax base for the city AND reduced crime downtown.

Maybe this went a little sideways but I think there is a strong connection between crime levels and public activity downtown. The more people are downtown conducting business and living their lives, the harder it will be for people to get away with personal crime. Not only this but increased economic opportunity in the core should mean that fewer people need to resort to crime in the first place (but perhaps that's overly idealistic). It should go without saying that access to housing/harm reduction strategies needs to accompany this.

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Strata posted some photos of Tees and Persse’s Parapet Repair so renovations must be fully resuming! Thank goodness https://www.instagram.com/p/CG8ECYzH...d=2g4wtnjnwjvu
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