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ethereal_reality · #**29721** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 7:21 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

E_R -- another great Kodachrome slide -- drool...

Martin_Pal, here's another.

North Main Street showing, from left to right, the Pico House...the Merced Theater...the Masonic Building and several other buildings.

eBay

note the huge white sign advertising SIGNS on the side of the Merced Theater building.

As most of you know, it's visible in many vintage aerials of the area.

So, everything to the right of this red line is long gone. (there's already a parking lot in the black & white aerial above)

eBay

Contemporary view looking northeast from Arcadia Street.

2009 I believe.

gsv

and a bit closer. (the trees have grown and now block the view of the Pico House

) -or maybe it's the low angle of the google_camera

gsv

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As a reminder, here is the Pico House, The Merced Theater and the Masonic Building back in the 1870s.

http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...20(1800s).html

ethereal_reality · #**29722** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 7:29 PM**

ok, just for fun, I decided to enlarge the slide. I was trying to see the magazine covers on that board.

eBay

note the long silver vent running up the entire length of the Merced Theater building. -pitiful.

Hmmm...is that Robert Benchley in the suit and tie?

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ethereal_reality · #**29723** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 7:43 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

Regarding this mural, does anyone have a photo of the entire mural? We've been looking
at the "middle panel" and I wondered what the other two panels looked like.

I'm really curious about the other two panels as well M_P.
Remember, the Wiggins School kept them in place four years longer than the controversial center panel. Surely there's a photograph of them somewhere.
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tovangar2 · #**29724** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 8:23 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Martin_Pal, here's another.

North Main Street showing, from left to right, the Pico House...the Merced Theater...the Masonic Building and several other buildings.

eBay

Just to add to your "thens and now":

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

This is an amazing photograph, especially if the date is correct.

old cd of mine/ possibly ebay
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tovangar2 · #**29725** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 9:01 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I'm really curious about the other two panels as well M_P.
Remember, the Wiggins School kept them in place four years longer than the controversial center panel. Surely there's a photograph of them somewhere.
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The heads near Youth's knees may represent the Aztec and Toltec cultures, which were said to be contrasted in the side panels.

e_r (detail)

These days, Katz' references seem obscure (to me anyway). Maybe they were obvious in 1935.

P.S. The Living New Deal was very excited about "your" mural e_r, but they know nothing, except the info you and oldstuff found, which I'd sent along to them.

Martin Pal · #**29726** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 10:01 PM**

This was a two car automobile accident injuring three people; 1987.

Paul Chin/LAPL

But, I'm posting it because I thought the house was quite interesting.

The address is 6330 W. Olympic Blvd. at Crescent Heights.

tovangar2 · #**29727** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 10:40 PM**

I guess the homeowners can't be blamed for putting up the post and chain barrier:

gsv

Lots of texture on that house:

gsv

I hope that poor guy in your photo was OK...

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P.S. Thx Martin for unraveling the Carpenter's Drive-in addresses

Tourmaline · #**29728** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 10:48 PM**

A pre-WPA mural? Did Diego Rivera visit Haverty's?

1925 (see below)

Haverty & Co.. plumbers, gas fitters, etc. etc. 453 S. Broadway (?) The Grayco Bldg., in the background was at 754 S Los Angeles.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../67761/rec/197

1925
A

B

C

Haverty interiors

D

E

F

Tourmaline · #**29729** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 11:28 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by GaylordWilshire

Well, by pure luck the identity of this street has turned up. A while back I guessed a block over, on Alexandria, and I was pretty close. Prompted by e_r's post of the intriguing Evanston on Kenmore prompted me to look for more pictures of it. Among the shots that didn't turn up at first when searching the name "Kenmore" at the LAPL was this:

So I clicked on the little "void" icon, and there was the picture...and it seems that the library has updated its description since rcarlton posted the pic:

"A car travels south on palm-lined South Kenmore Avenue, approaching Sixth Street, in Hancock Park. On the left are apartment buildings at 537 S. Kenmore and 531 S. Kenmore, and on the right is a building at 530 S. Kenmore."

(OK, I hate to be a total nerd, but who's going to tell the LAPL that Kenmore is many blocks east of Hancock Park...?)

Anyway, there's your street, rcarlton & Illithit Dude... and it turns out that all three of the nearest buildings in the vntage shot are still there:

Google

Just a few blocks further north on Kenmore, at West Third Street (3702 W. Third St.) . . . (Building is still there, but the neighborhood has changed. Glimpses of surrounding residences suggest substance. Landscaping seems hard to ignore.)

1927

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/5705/rec/178

Quaint store fronts. Notice the safety island.

CityBoyDoug · #**29730** Posted **Jul 14, 2015, 11:41 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

I'm really curious about the other two panels as well M_P.
Remember, the Wiggins School kept them in place four years longer than the controversial center panel. Surely there's a photograph of them somewhere.
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ER....I looked for the side panels...so far can't find them.

Also, I've painted murals and posters since I was in the 5th grade. Mr. Katz needs some help to clarify his ideas. That mural contains so many strange and obdurate elements, I really can't make sense of it. Maybe it made sense to him in 1935 but even then the locals found it ''ghastly, horrible and grotesque".

As I said before...that ''Speedo" really dominates the entire scene [worn by the youth with NO hands{?}.]!

Tourmaline · #**29731** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 12:10 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Union Stage Depot located at 5th Street & Los Angeles Street in 1932.

usc digital archive

I'm not familiar with this depot....anyone know the details?
What is a 'stage' depot?

Source dates these images to 1929.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co.../14074/rec/150

Pioneer and Yelloway Stages

Interiors are equally interesting.

rbpjr · #**29732** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 12:20 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Krell58

That kid on the left with the curly hair looks like he's only 16 or 17 years old.

I was only seventeen when I joined the Navy...my buddies referred to me as the "kid"...but were protective and I always felt accepted...and I also had/have curly hair...

rbpjr · #**29733** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 12:31 AM**

[QUOTE=GaylordWilshire;7089210]"I see no reason why not"

As the moderator, would you be so kind as to post a complete list of thread rules?

Lighten up.

OK boys...take it outside...

Tourmaline · #**29734** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 1:24 AM**

1940 - Venice Pier had the Clune Loopa ride.. (Perfectly safe (?) - Picture the baskets on a stairmaster machine, swing that pendulum. Eat after the ride.)

Loopa signage:

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/93644/rec/52

John Maddox Roberts · #**29735** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 1:49 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Martin_Pal, here's another.

North Main Street showing, from left to right, the Pico House...the Merced Theater...the Masonic Building and several other buildings.

eBay

note the huge white sign advertising SIGNS on the side of the Merced Theater building.

As most of you know, it's visible in many vintage aerials of the area.

So, everything to the right of this red line is long gone. (there's already a parking lot in the black & white aerial above)

eBay

Contemporary view looking northeast from Arcadia Street.

2009 I believe.

gsv

and a bit closer. (the trees have grown and now block the view of the Pico House

) -or maybe it's the low angle of the google_camera

gsv

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As a reminder, here is the Pico House, The Merced Theater and the Masonic Building back in the 1870s.

http://waterandpower.org/museum/Earl...20(1800s).html

The 2009 picture is especially poignant. Note the homeless peoples' belongings in the foreground, including the now-iconic shopping cart piled with things in plastic garbage bags. Did the photographer ask the people to step outside the frame when he shot? Especially strange on a street named for the Edenic Arcadia of ancient Greek poetry. Ah, well, "et in Arcadia Ego."

Tourmaline · #**29736** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 1:56 AM**

Don't recall seeing this '39 image of Hollywood Blvd. Stagecoach Premier? C.C. Brown's (hot fudge sundae).

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/si...d/21347/rec/75

Tourmaline · #**29737** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 2:20 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noircitydame

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm17506365...f_=nm_phs_md_4

Joe E. Brown (here with his wife c. 1951, so he was 59-ish here). Plus by anything I’ve read, a genuinely nice guy.

Jerry/Daphne could do worse.

Several images of Joe E. Brown. Source also mentions McDonald Dootson Tire Co., Burbank 1931.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/15846/rec/99

Looks to me like Joe E. and Darryl Zanuck on the Warner lot.

John Maddox Roberts · #**29738** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 4:17 AM**

Wow, that picture of Brown with his wife. He was around 60 or thereabouts and look how well he's built! We use comedy terms like "pratfall" and "physical comedy" and never think how athletic these men had to be to pull off those stunts that look so effortless.

CityBoyDoug · #**29739** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 4:42 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Maddox Roberts

Wow, that picture of Brown with his wife. He was around 60 or thereabouts and look how well he's built! We use comedy terms like "pratfall" and "physical comedy" and never think how athletic these men had to be to pull off those stunts that look so effortless.

Unlike most male movie people of that era, Joe E. Brown, Charlie Chaplin and Douglas Fairbanks Jr. were in top physical condition.

Today in 2015 the ''buff'' look is ''in''. In 1930 it wasn't.

CityBoyDoug · #**29740** Posted **Jul 15, 2015, 5:06 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tourmaline

Several images of Joe E. Brown. Source also mentions McDonald Dootson Tire Co., Burbank 1931.
http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/cdm/co...d/15846/rec/99

I believe this car is a gorgeous Model J Duesenberg later owned by Howard Hughes. This ID is thanks to one of the readers of this Forum.!

History of this car is here:

http://www.rmauctions.com/am13/ameli...derham/1057612