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[twister244]

Originally Posted by bnk

Well I found out why DT was trashed the morning of the 5th

Youths took over down town that night and caused their intended damage.

We need the National guard out the rest of the summer to protect the down town until we get a new DA and Mayor. How was the Cook County DA re elected with all of her Smollet scandal and revolving door jail.

I'm in downtown all the time since I live in the West Loop for the Summer, and I haven't seen ANY of what you are describing. You make it sound like DT is a rotting hellscape after 7 PM.... It's not.

[bnk]

Originally Posted by twister244

I'm in downtown all the time since I live in the West Loop for the Summer, and I haven't seen ANY of what you are describing. You make it sound like DT is a rotting hellscape after 7 PM.... It's not.

I was talking about one day early am on the 5th of July. It was not a hellscape.

Ive been downtown a lot. I just wanted to point out I have never seen trash in the street and sidewalks like that before.

Could have been an off day after a holiday. I love the city. But I am sour on lack of leadership from the mayor.....

[the urban politician]

A lady I work with--she's not the least bit wealthy, BTW--just found out that her property tax bill in suburban Cook County for her home just went up by $5000 in one year!

She said that she literally cried when she got this bill.

Thanks, unions, Gov Putzhead, and Illinois General Assembly

I told her (she's a Democrat and pretty progressive) to get used to more of the same. I literally am watching her political views shift right in front of my eyes. It's amazing when your world views go from being a neat conversation over coffee to a hit to your bank account, how quickly things change.

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

A lady I work with--she's not the least bit wealthy, BTW--just found out that her property tax bill in suburban Cook County for her home just went up by $5000 in one year!

She said that she literally cried when she got this bill.

Thanks, unions, Gov Putzhead, and Illinois General Assembly

I told her (she's a Democrat and pretty progressive) to get used to more of the same. I literally am watching her political views shift right in front of my eyes. It's amazing when your world views go from being a neat conversation over coffee to a hit to your bank account, how quickly things change.

Mine went down $2,000 after I petitioned the Assessor's office complaining that it was not warranted to go up that much between 2019 and 2020. I filed online myself and even submitted comparables within 2-3 blocks of me that have lower taxes. It was not that complicated, took about 2 hours for me to do on my own (instead of paying an attorney to do it for me). The Assessor's office responded within a couple of weeks, and then another 2-3 months for the total taxes to be corrected in the system, and I received a check for that amount, as an adjustment for the previous year's overpayment, in addition to the lowered amount for 2021.

Depending on where she lives, she should appeal; 9 times out of 10, they will respond in the applicant's favor, based on family and friends who've done the same as me, with or without a lawyer:
https://www.cookcountyassessor.com/assessment-calendar-and-deadlines

I didn't think filing would help me, but it was such a high increase when Kaegi become the Assessor that I knew I had to file, and I'm glad I did.

[Steely Dan]

^ yeah, a $5K YOY increase!

TUP, tell your coworker to appeal that shit pronto.

the last time we appealed, our property taxes went down ~$1,800/year.

[the urban politician]

^ Yep, she's appealing.

But it's really unfortunate that regular people need to go through a process like this just for consistency and fairness.

[Tom In Chicago]

Originally Posted by sentinel

Mine went down $2,000 after I petitioned the Assessor's office...

Mine went down $2,000 after our condo board did the same thing. . . FWIW

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[OrdoSeclorum]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

A lady I work with--she's not the least bit wealthy, BTW--just found out that her property tax bill in suburban Cook County for her home just went up by $5000 in one year!

She said that she literally cried when she got this bill.

Thanks, unions, Gov Putzhead, and Illinois General Assembly

I told her (she's a Democrat and pretty progressive) to get used to more of the same. I literally am watching her political views shift right in front of my eyes. It's amazing when your world views go from being a neat conversation over coffee to a hit to your bank account, how quickly things change.

You left out the municipality. Why?

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

A lady I work with--she's not the least bit wealthy, BTW--just found out that her property tax bill in suburban Cook County for her home just went up by $5000 in one year!

She said that she literally cried when she got this bill.

Thanks, unions, Gov Putzhead, and Illinois General Assembly

I told her (she's a Democrat and pretty progressive) to get used to more of the same. I literally am watching her political views shift right in front of my eyes. It's amazing when your world views go from being a neat conversation over coffee to a hit to your bank account, how quickly things change.

In order to give this some context, it would be nice to know the municipality and perhaps a rough idea of the size of this woman's property, tup.

Aaron (Glowrock)

[the urban politician]

^ Well, she owns a SFH, I've never seen it so I don't know how large it is, but she's not living in a mansion (I'm quite sure of that).

As far as municipality, the office where she works is Arlington Heights so it's somewhere near there, I don't see her again till Friday so I will ask her.

But why does municipality matter when addressing the deeper mishap of a system that raises one's property tax bill by $5000 in 1 year, shifting the burden on the homeowner to go out and prove that this is grossly unfair? Nobody else sees a problem with that?

[moorhosj1]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

But why does municipality matter when addressing the deeper mishap of a system that raises one's property tax bill by $5000 in 1 year, shifting the burden on the homeowner to go out and prove that this is grossly unfair? Nobody else sees a problem with that?

It's a joke of a system. Add the burden of having to hire the right appeals attorney to be successful. By "right" I mean one of the people who make these laws, then run the tax assessment law firms (Madigan, Burke, Durkin, etc.) you need to hire to lower your bill.

Arlington Heights is interesting in that it has parts that are in Cook County and parts that are in Lake County. I guess that could impact things.

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Well, she owns a SFH, I've never seen it so I don't know how large it is, but she's not living in a mansion (I'm quite sure of that).

As far as municipality, the office where she works is Arlington Heights so it's somewhere near there, I don't see her again till Friday so I will ask her.

But why does municipality matter when addressing the deeper mishap of a system that raises one's property tax bill by $5000 in 1 year, shifting the burden on the homeowner to go out and prove that this is grossly unfair? Nobody else sees a problem with that?

Oh, absolutely I think this is ridiculous, tup. Of course it could also be true that her property valuation was obscenely low until a revaluation was performed for this year. Even if that were the case, though, I would imagine there should be a several year period over which property taxes would increase to match the current valuation, not all at once.

All I'm saying is that there's probably more to this than meets the eye. And yes, it's ridiculous to have a SFH have that kind of increase YOY without a damned good reason.

Aaron (Glowrock)

[the urban politician]

Update: my colleague with the $5000 property tax bump lives in Prospect Heights.

She is appealing

[ardecila]

Not saying there isn't the odd mansion here or there, but Prospect Heights is about as middle class as you can get. Median household income for the town is exactly the same as the MSA overall. Hardly a bastion of privilege.

https://datausa.io/profile/geo/prospect-heights-il#income

[F1 Tommy]

FYI

Biden formally nominates Rahm Emanuel to be U.S. ambassador to Japan.

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2021/0...lomacy/us-japan-rahm-emanuel-nomination/

[jtown,man]

Two men are attacked by a mob on the northside while women twerk.

This is utterly embarrassing.


https://cwbchicago.com/2021/08/two-men-a...ive-past-and-twerk-up-a-storm-video.html

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by jtown,man

Two men are attacked by a mob on the northside while women twerk.

This is utterly embarrassing.


https://cwbchicago.com/2021/08/two-men-a...ive-past-and-twerk-up-a-storm-video.html

I agree. I also think that, over the last several years, the actions of CPD unions, leadership AND the general rank-and-file are pretty damned embarrassing. It's almost as if CPD just sits around doing nothing while blaming Lightfoot for everything that ails the city. God forbid the CPD leadership take an actual active role in coming up with some solutions...

Aaron (Glowrock)

[jtown,man]

Originally Posted by glowrock

I agree. I also think that, over the last several years, the actions of CPD unions, leadership AND the general rank-and-file are pretty damned embarrassing. It's almost as if CPD just sits around doing nothing while blaming Lightfoot for everything that ails the city. God forbid the CPD leadership take an actual active role in coming up with some solutions...

Aaron (Glowrock)

I have never seen a place more messed up.

I love Chicago. I had the most pleasant day yesterday. I have been afforded so many opportunities living here and the skyline still randomly makes me smile. The vast majority of people have been more than kind.

There is an underbelly of crookedness that can't be ignored though. It appears to infect every single aspect of this place.

I am a transplant and I know many who have lived here their whole lives may be offended by my viewpoints. I understand. You defend what you know and love til the end, I have nothing but respect. But I think from my short time here (2 years), I have witnessed enough to know there is no bright horizon just around the corner. I don't see it.

I hope I am wrong. Way too many good people that deserve way better (from EVERYONE, from the police to neighbors, "leaders", etc.). But I won't be here to see it. I moved a block down the street last may because of the insanely low prices, but now I am out. Lease is up in 9 months and I am gone.

[glowrock]

Originally Posted by jtown,man

I have never seen a place more messed up.

I love Chicago. I had the most pleasant day yesterday. I have been afforded so many opportunities living here and the skyline still randomly makes me smile. The vast majority of people have been more than kind.

There is an underbelly of crookedness that can't be ignored though. It appears to infect every single aspect of this place.

I am a transplant and I know many who have lived here their whole lives may be offended by my viewpoints. I understand. You defend what you know and love til the end, I have nothing but respect. But I think from my short time here (2 years), I have witnessed enough to know there is no bright horizon just around the corner. I don't see it.

I hope I am wrong. Way too many good people that deserve way better (from EVERYONE, from the police to neighbors, "leaders", etc.). But I won't be here to see it. I moved a block down the street last may because of the insanely low prices, but now I am out. Lease is up in 9 months and I am gone.

Being a fairly recent transplant myself, I can tell you I'm not going anywhere. While of course there are severe and numerous problems here, to be quite honest few of them have affected me or anyone around me. My neighborhood is pretty safe, my neighbors generally friendly and I have a three block walk to work. Sorry to see you go, but perhaps this just wasn't the right city for you to be in.

Aaron (Glowrock)

[Kenmore]

triggered conservatives leaving the city, never gets old