NEW YORK | One World Trade Center | 1,776' Pinnacle / 1,373' Roof | 108 FLOORS - Page 147

CHAPINM1 · #**2921** Posted **May 24, 2008, 12:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by America 117

but there is an outdoor observation deck right?

No, but who knows what is being planned with the crown and the VERY highest floors besides what we've been told. You never know... It will have quite a bit to offer like before, maybe more! Either way, we'll will have our observatory back!

CoolCzech · #**2922** Posted **May 24, 2008, 2:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by NYguy

It should be at least 1,400 ft.

The ring is really just housing for antenna equipment; I'm assuming there will be a door to it, and technicians will be able to enter to service what's inside. Isn't the top of the ring, then, really the true "roof height"?

Dale · #**2923** Posted **May 24, 2008, 3:56 AM**

May we call the ring 'My Precious' ?

CHAPINM1 · #**2924** Posted **May 24, 2008, 3:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by CoolCzech

The ring is really just housing for antenna equipment; I'm assuming there will be a door to it, and technicians will be able to enter to service what's inside. Isn't the top of the ring, then, really the true "roof height"?

No, the true roof height is below the ring and what the ring will be sitting on. The top of the ring will be at least 1,425 feet by the looks of it.

NYguy · #**2925** Posted **May 24, 2008, 12:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by CoolCzech

The ring is really just housing for antenna equipment; I'm assuming there will be a door to it, and technicians will be able to enter to service what's inside. Isn't the top of the ring, then, really the true "roof height"?

Well, from what I can make of it, the ring itself has been redesigned to sit on top of and above the roof, not suspended above like earlier versions. Make of it what you will. I'm assuming there will also be access inside the spire to the antenna.

Scruffy · #**2926** Posted **May 24, 2008, 2:51 PM**

i agree that the ring should be counted into roof height

America 117 · #**2927** Posted **May 24, 2008, 3:33 PM**

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Originally Posted by Scruffy

i agree that the ring should be counted into roof height

if you count the ring and the ropes holding up the spire its the secound tallest building in north america.
but i think it dosent matter because the spire counts anyway.

Scruffy · #**2928** Posted **May 24, 2008, 6:16 PM**

well i wouldn't count the ropes. and i know the official height will be to spire. Im not arguing spires versus non spire height. I just think that in terms of roof height, the ring should be counted since it will be a permanent structure that you will be able to enter. (not the public) its to be filled with broadcasting equipment much like the 90-101 floors of the ESB

Lecom · #**2929** Posted **May 24, 2008, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by CoolCzech

The ring is really just housing for antenna equipment; I'm assuming there will be a door to it, and technicians will be able to enter to service what's inside. Isn't the top of the ring, then, really the true "roof height"?

You are correct, the ring will be an enclosed space, accessible on the inside. However, its top won't be the roof height since its interior does not constitute a floor. It will only feature catwalks, which are never considered as proper floor space. In the same spirit, one may count the spire as floor space, since it will also be hollow and accessible from the inside, and will feature a series of service levels connected by a ladder (think of a standard TV antenna with a wall enclosure). However, just as the platforms on a standard antenna aren't considered floors, neither should the service levels inside the FT spire be.

Scruffy · #**2930** Posted **May 24, 2008, 6:17 PM**

so the number of steel beams that have broken street level is now 3

Scruffy · #**2931** Posted **May 24, 2008, 6:23 PM**

Just to gauge the scale of this tower.

This is the western half of the tower footprint with the central core on the left

Closeup of the western wall with tiny little construction men scurrying about

the mass of the core with more workmen

CoolCzech · #**2932** Posted **May 25, 2008, 12:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Lecom

However, just as the platforms on a standard antenna aren't considered floors, neither should the service levels inside the FT spire be.

But isn't the ESB considered to have a 102 floors, even though that counts the imaginary floors of a Mast that in reality is filled with a spiral staircase?

America 117 · #**2933** Posted **May 25, 2008, 2:07 PM**

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Originally Posted by Scruffy

well i wouldn't count the ropes. and i know the official height will be to spire. Im not arguing spires versus non spire height. I just think that in terms of roof height, the ring should be counted since it will be a permanent structure that you will be able to enter. (not the public) its to be filled with broadcasting equipment much like the 90-101 floors of the ESB

well they made the freedom tower to be the same hight as the twin towers
so that may be a reson why they dont count it

aluminum · #**2934** Posted **May 25, 2008, 4:45 PM**

The roof height of Freedom Tower is not a centimeter more than 417m. This fact has been established everywhere. The symbolic 417m number is not going to change.

NYguy · #**2935** Posted **May 25, 2008, 6:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Scruffy

i agree that the ring should be counted into roof height

I've always said it should be counted as part of the roof height, I've seen lesser things counted on other towers. Also, for sheer visual impact, it will at least look that way.

As we've seen, details of the roof and its design have changed many times. I'm sure the final version will be something we haven't seen yet, one of the reasons we haven't seen many detailed renderings of it. But at last look, there seemed to be less open space beyond the ring.

Let me add that I like the twist of the spire itself, something I think will add to the distinctiveness of it, like the Chrysler and ESB spires.

aluminum · #**2936** Posted **May 25, 2008, 7:03 PM**

^ The middle part of the spire looks like they've placed barrels on top of another.

America 117 · #**2937** Posted **May 25, 2008, 8:21 PM**

one thing is for sure the FT wont be the tallest tower in NY for long

NYC4Life · #**2938** Posted **May 25, 2008, 8:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by NewRussia

It would be a nice addition to the skyline if we could get a new slim glass tower similar to the new one going up next to the flatiron building on the site of the burger king on liberty st. But who knows it could happen

I was thinking the same. Those old low-rise buildings will feel out of place with the new complex. Wouldn't be surprised if they're demolished at some point in the near future.

NYC4Life · #**2939** Posted **May 25, 2008, 8:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by America 117

one thing is for sure the FT wont be the tallest tower in NY for long

One of the proposed towers for the Penn MSG redevelopment has a roof higher than Freedom Tower's, but still falls short of the 1,776' pinnacle height. I would love to see a 2,000 footer being built.

[SP]Neo · #**2940** Posted **May 25, 2008, 10:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by America 117

one thing is for sure the FT wont be the tallest tower in NY for long

i don't know any higher proposal than the FT...do you mean any specific tower or only in general?