SAN FRANCISCO | Projects: Under Construction, Approved, and Proposed

[coyotetrickster]

Originally Posted by Gordo

Why did they have it closed? It was my understanding that there wouldn't be more than a handful of days total during the entire construction period where any disruption on the surface would take place.

Part of the reason for the nosebleed cost is that they're building everything with the explicit goal of minimum to no disruption on the surface, rather than a cheaper cut and cover tunnel that would pass above the Muni/BART tunnel (through the mezzanine level).

What a bunch of whingy, whiners drivers.... The intersection (Geary and Stockton) is slated for station entrances. Cuts and bracing, plus surface street realignments are required to allow the entrances to the Union Sq. Station...People should really read the entire EIR and plan documents....

[Gordo]

Originally Posted by coyotetrickster

What a bunch of whingy, whiners drivers.... The intersection (Geary and Stockton) is slated for station entrances. Cuts and bracing, plus surface street realignments are required to allow the entrances to the Union Sq. Station...People should really read the entire EIR and plan documents....

Is any of that work being done now? It was my understanding that that would come much later in the project, and amount to a very small percentage of the total construction time.

[Reminiscence]

Not sure if anyone's posted about this, but according to the Chronicle, proponents have decided to trim the height of the Treasure Island towers. Instead of a 650' peak, and 3 450' towers, we'll have one 450' and 3 315' towers. A bit of a letdown, but I'm glad the proposal is not dead altogether.

Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/02/19/BA8I1HNUBT.DTL&tsp=1

[dr_strangelove]

Originally Posted by Gordo

Is any of that work being done now? It was my understanding that that would come much later in the project, and amount to a very small percentage of the total construction time.

she knows not what she speaks

[Gordo]

Originally Posted by dr_strangelove

she knows not what she speaks

I suppose it's the "utilities relocation" that's going on now:

http://www.sfmta.com/cms/mcsp/cspprogress.htm
http://www.centralsubwayblog.com/blog/2011/02/utility-relocation-construction-schedule/

Looks like the plan is for it to be finished in the next couple days.

[WildCowboy]

My understanding is that the utilities relocation will take until June 2012 to complete. Obviously the whole stretch won't be under construction for the whole time, but Stockton Street is going to be a mess for a very long time.

Edit: Here is a news release on it...portions of Stockton will see lane reductions one block at a time for the next 10 months.

The construction work will begin at the southeast corner of Geary and Stockton streets. The work will proceed along the east side of the street, one block at a time down Stockton Street to Market Street. The work will then continue back up the opposite side of Stockton Street to Union Square. Once the work south of Geary is complete, the construction will continue north along the east side of Stockton Street from Geary Street to Post Street.

[Mattylite]

Not really seeing how we are on our way to being a subway "heaven". As befitting us being the 2nd densest major city in the US we should have had a first class subway oh lets say over a hundred years ago. Half a million in 1920 in a city smaller than todays 47 square miles. Why they are building a 3 stop muni line to middle of Chinatown when a Geary line heavy subway line would make the most sense is comical. Impressive clout for the Chinese-American community considering they would serve more constituents on Geary than Chinatown? Then again I don't have a degree in urban planning or common sense nor in Chinatown/Cityhall politics. Can't wait for that stop at Washington and Stockton. I picture several live chickens a fluttering

[202_Cyclist]

@Mattylite:

Despite your concern about whether SF's subway system is adequate for one of the nation's densest, largest cities that already has the 2nd or 3rd highest transit ridership rates, it is good construction of this project is underway before the RepuB(P)licans put the kibosh on any kind of infrastructure investments that don't use oil or otherwise benefit the Koch brothers.

http://thesource.metro.net/2011/01/21/ho...imination-of-federal-new-starts-program/

[tommaso]

Anyone have any photos of the Trinity Market/8th construction site? Anytime I'm in S.F. I post photos of that development because it's massive and it's just that important to that part of S.F. Thanks in advance

[CyberEric]

Originally Posted by Reminiscence

Not sure if anyone's posted about this, but according to the Chronicle, proponents have decided to trim the height of the Treasure Island towers. Instead of a 650' peak, and 3 450' towers, we'll have one 450' and 3 315' towers. A bit of a letdown, but I'm glad the proposal is not dead altogether.

Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/02/19/BA8I1HNUBT.DTL&tsp=1

Interesting, a bit of a bummer, but I am glad to hear it is still being considered at all.

Originally Posted by 202_Cyclist

@Mattylite:

Despite your concern about whether SF's subway system is adequate for one of the nation's densest, largest cities that already has the 2nd or 3rd highest transit ridership rates, it is good construction of this project is underway before the RepuB(P)licans put the kibosh on any kind of infrastructure investments that don't use oil or otherwise benefit the Koch brothers.

http://thesource.metro.net/2011/01/21/ho...imination-of-federal-new-starts-program/

My understanding was that the Central Subway had been specifically chosen to receive federal funding, which is why it is being done now, even though a Geary line is equally needed. I really hope they make something happen with Geary eventually, it's way overdue. In the meantime, it's great to hear the Central Subway project is underway. It's going to be great to be able to get to Chinatown quicker than Oakland from my place in Haight Ashbury, right now that's not the case.

[Gordo]

Originally Posted by CyberEric

My understanding was that the Central Subway had been specifically chosen to receive federal funding, which is why it is being done now, even though a Geary line is equally needed. I really hope they make something happen with Geary eventually, it's way overdue. In the meantime, it's great to hear the Central Subway project is underway. It's going to be great to be able to get to Chinatown quicker than Oakland from my place in Haight Ashbury, right now that's not the case.

Just curious - how exactly is it now quicker to get from the Haight to Oakland rather than Chinatown, and how is that going to change with the Central Subway?

The Central Subway may make it quicker to get from the southeast to Chinatown, but I fail to see how it will have any time effect from the west, and especially from a place like the Haight where you'd likely be coming into downtown above ground.

[peanut gallery]

^N Judah is just a couple of blocks up the hill on Carl. I'm guessing he takes that downtown and is comparing a transfer to BART vs walking several blocks up to Chinatown.

[Gordo]

Originally Posted by peanut gallery

^N Judah is just a couple of blocks up the hill on Carl. I'm guessing he takes that downtown and is comparing a transfer to BART vs walking several blocks up to Chinatown.

I suppose...

I lived in the lower Haight for two years (a block and a half from the N Judah), and I can't imagine thinking that it's faster to get to Oakland than Chinatown, and I can't see how it would be any different from the other side of the tunnel.

Who knows though, I really haven't used Muni much in the past year. Uber rules!

[dr_strangelove]

[1977]

Thanks for the update dr_strangelove. It looks like they have another 4 or 5 floors to go. I'm excited to see what the skin looks like.

[Jerry of San Fran]

Thanks for the update Dr Strangelove - here is a view I took from the 14th floor of the Archstone Fox Plaza Feb. 2011.


San Francisco Public Utilities Bldg. Construction by Apollo's Light, on Flickr

[CyberEric]

Thanks for the updates! Will the final height be about where the crane's crossbeam is?

[ElDuderino]

Originally Posted by CyberEric

Thanks for the updates! Will the final height be about where the crane's crossbeam is?

I think a little shorter than that

[peanut gallery]

It's supposed to be 13 stories, and it looks like it has 3 more floors to go plus mechanicals. To my eye, that should take it up about half way from where it is to the boom.

[San Frangelino]

Found this interesting. Click the link to get the renderings. I quite like the architecture,but why is everything always so white?
http://www.archdaily.com/115256/mashouf-...university-michael-maltzan-architecture/

Mashouf Performing Arts Center at San Francisco State University / Michael Maltzan Architecture
By Kelly Minner

A 1,200 seat opera style theater is planned within the first phase of construction, and four smaller theaters will follow in two additional phases. The total 242,000 sqf Mashouf Performing Arts Center will also include programs for drama, dance, music, and broadcast journalism.