Kelowna Construction - Page 146

Nray · #**2901** Posted **Sep 30, 2020, 4:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

Nice! I guess that means we are guaranteed another major tower in downtown Kelowna.

Will they build the office tower at the same time?

HM Commercial has space listed for lease in the office tower with anticipated occupancy of spring 2022. I'd assume they are testing the demand which will trigger the timeline for that building. With both Brooklyn and Bertram rising on either side I doubt Mission group wants to leave a vacant development property in the middle for a length of time. The initial submission shows development in phases with Bertram first followed by the Block listed as phase 2. Drawings appear to support stand alone towers even though the podium connects both at level 6. I must say I am surprised with the speed Mission group seems to be moving with. I believe, and correct me if I am wrong, but there was an interview with one of their senior management a few months ago where they said they have other target sites in the core as well. Interesting development times.

LittleBoy · #**2902** Posted **Sep 30, 2020, 9:53 PM**

I had the pleasure of visiting Kelowna for a few days last week and all I can say is wow! Extremely impressed with the beauty of your core, and the rate of change within your downtown seems to be miles ahead of comparable sized cities. I'll be keeping an eye on Kelowna development and in my mind, Kelowna deserves much more attention on a national scale.

DKaz · #**2903** Posted **Oct 2, 2020, 5:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by LittleBoy

I had the pleasure of visiting Kelowna for a few days last week and all I can say is wow! Extremely impressed with the beauty of your core, and the rate of change within your downtown seems to be miles ahead of comparable sized cities. I'll be keeping an eye on Kelowna development and in my mind, Kelowna deserves much more attention on a national scale.

Kelowna is great but when you compare it to Regina which has a metro population of not a whole lot more (236,000 vs. 217,000), Regina has a much more impressive downtown core. I still like it here.

Nray · #**2904** Posted **Oct 2, 2020, 8:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Kelowna is great but when you compare it to Regina which has a metro population of not a whole lot more (236,000 vs. 217,000), Regina has a much more impressive downtown core. I still like it here.

Not really an accurate comparison using population only. I'm sure if Kelowna was a provincial capital region which demands a much larger corporate presence along with the normal government incentives to relocate business to a capital area, the Kelowna core would be quite different than it is today. With that said, I'm sure the lifestyle around Wascana lake draws in many with dreams to someday live there. (Yes, sarcasm mate. I'm prairie blood and I miss home... pre-skitter season preferred

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svlt · #**2905** Posted **Oct 3, 2020, 10:03 AM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Kelowna is great but when you compare it to Regina which has a metro population of not a whole lot more (236,000 vs. 217,000), Regina has a much more impressive downtown core. I still like it here.

Regina does punch way above its weight for that small sliver of the downtown CBD where you could almost be fooled that it's a city at least double its size, but I don't think it has the strongest future going for it compared to Kelowna. The last significant proposal (Capital Pointe) they had resulted in some hole in the ground which now is to become a parking lot, and IIRC I haven't heard of any major proposals going forward.

Kelowna by comparison is firing on all cylinders and by 2040 if not 2030 I think the skyline will be unrecognizable.

Reecemartin · #**2906** Posted **Oct 4, 2020, 12:40 AM**

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scryer · #**2907** Posted **Oct 5, 2020, 1:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by DKaz

Kelowna is great but when you compare it to Regina which has a metro population of not a whole lot more (236,000 vs. 217,000), Regina has a much more impressive downtown core. I still like it here.

This may detract the conversation but BC is a whole other animal in comparison to SK, economically speaking. BC has a more relevant economy that the federal government actually looks to invest in whereas SK's economy is more focused on natural resource extraction and exports. I say this because having a bigger and more diverse economy for BC has meant that the province has been able to offer niches for municipalities to take advantage of. And wherever you have a hotspot of flourishing economic activity, you attract and grow populations.

Long story short, BC has probably the most economic tourism industry in Canada which helps the hospitality and wine industry a lot. Couple that with people leaving Vancouver (BC's leading economic centre) to start families in the Okanagan, and Kelowna being in a nice geographic location, and you have a recipe for a larger growth potential than Regina could achieve.

rofina · #**2908** Posted **Oct 6, 2020, 9:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by scryer

This may detract the conversation but BC is a whole other animal in comparison to SK, economically speaking. BC has a more relevant economy that the federal government actually looks to invest in whereas SK's economy is more focused on natural resource extraction and exports. I say this because having a bigger and more diverse economy for BC has meant that the province has been able to offer niches for municipalities to take advantage of. And wherever you have a hotspot of flourishing economic activity, you attract and grow populations.

Long story short, BC has probably the most economic tourism industry in Canada which helps the hospitality and wine industry a lot. Couple that with people leaving Vancouver (BC's leading economic centre) to start families in the Okanagan, and Kelowna being in a nice geographic location, and you have a recipe for a larger growth potential than Regina could achieve.

Indeed.

I don't think Kelowna's geographic superiority can be understated.

The lakes, the mountains, Big White, Silverstar. It has a lot going for it.

DKaz · #**2909** Posted **Oct 6, 2020, 9:31 PM**

True. It's just that when my wife wanted to move to the prairies, I would've preferred a small city centre like Red Deer or Regina.

Tourism is great but I'm looking forward to Kelowna being a entrepreneurial tech hub. We're slowly getting there.

Sheener · #**2910** Posted **Oct 7, 2020, 1:21 AM**

Friendly reminder this webcam is back up and running with a nice downtown/north end vantage. http://www.wolfhomes.com/webcam/

Good progress on One Water West Tower. Brooklyn is directly in line with ELLA and will eclipse it entirely soon by the looks of it!

csbvan · #**2911** Posted **Oct 7, 2020, 3:59 PM**

Quite the impressive cluster of mid-rises forming along Clement as well.

DKaz · #**2912** Posted **Oct 7, 2020, 4:29 PM**

Clement Ave alone is making Kelowna look like a bigger city. You see a wall of buildings hugging Clement on both sides, then One Water Street and to a lesser degree Ellis Parc at the end and it's like whoa.

Phrescata · #**2913** Posted **Oct 9, 2020, 3:12 AM**

75% of homes released during the launch weekend at Bertram are now sold:

https://okanaganedge.net/2020/10/07/...omes-for-sale/

Metro-One · #**2914** Posted **Oct 9, 2020, 5:25 AM**

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75% of homes released during the launch weekend at Bertram are now sold:

https://okanaganedge.net/2020/10/07/...omes-for-sale/

Awesome news! Guessing they can move forward this fall then. Any official height on this tower? It must be flirting with the 100m mark.

As for the “size” debate, people have to remember that Kelowna is not the primary urban centre of the province, it isn’t even the secondary, it is arguably the tertiary urban centre of BC.

Also it only recently passed 200,000 for the urban area. It seems that this past 5 or so years it finally hit critical mass to start building up.

Nray · #**2915** Posted **Oct 9, 2020, 2:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

Awesome news! Guessing they can move forward this fall then. Any official height on this tower? It must be flirting with the 100m mark.

As for the “size” debate, people have to remember that Kelowna is not the primary urban centre of the province, it isn’t even the secondary, it is arguably the tertiary urban centre of BC.

Also it only recently passed 200,000 for the urban area. It seems that this past 5 or so years it finally hit critical mass to start building up.

Listed as 100.94m. Just squeaked by.

mountainman · #**2916** Posted **Oct 9, 2020, 3:58 PM**

Hi Guys, I haven't been on here for quite a while, I need to get out and get some more pictures to post soon!

I stopped by the Bertram presentation centre at the weekend, the lady informed me that construction of both Bertram and the office block would happen simultaneously - likely beginning in January.

KelownaResident · #**2917** Posted **Oct 9, 2020, 4:17 PM**

Snapped a quick photo of Brooklyn yesterday.

KelownaResident · #**2918** Posted **Oct 9, 2020, 4:22 PM**

It's quite remarkable how Mission Group moves so quickly at these projects.

Anyways, I saw an interesting property come up for sale:

1473 Water Street
This is the property of BC Tree Fruits which I believe would be located directly across from the proposed Westcorp Tower.

Does anyone know if this site would be able accomodate another tower? Listing says 0.275 acres but I'm not construction expert.

mountainman · #**2919** Posted **Oct 9, 2020, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by KelownaResident

It's quite remarkable how Mission Group moves so quickly at these projects.

Anyways, I saw an interesting property come up for sale:

1473 Water Street
This is the property of BC Tree Fruits which I believe would be located directly across from the proposed Westcorp Tower.

Does anyone know if this site would be able accomodate another tower? Listing says 0.275 acres but I'm not construction expert.

The Ella site is about 0.4 acres and Ellis Parc is slightly larger again. I'm sure it's large enough to accommodate a compact tower.

giallo · #**2920** Posted **Oct 9, 2020, 10:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by mountainman

Hi Guys, I haven't been on here for quite a while, I need to get out and get some more pictures to post soon!

I stopped by the Bertram presentation centre at the weekend, the lady informed me that construction of both Bertram and the office block would happen simultaneously - likely beginning in January.

That's great news about the office block. That corner of Bernard and Bertram may end up being the dense block in the city in a couple of years.