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Old Posted Nov 22, 2025, 8:06 PM
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Yeh either way happy with this but always thought there was scope for a fourth tier taking it way past 1700ft.
The current iteration already has 4 tiers, the initial one with the same height had 5, regardless NYguy is right, this building under current zoning cant be built taller than 1642', and even then, it has always been designed around 1570-80'. Changing the design to be past 1700' is out of the question.
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The current iteration already has 4 tiers, the initial one with the same height had 5, regardless NYguy is right, this building under current zoning cant be built taller than 1642', and even then, it has always been designed around 1570-80'. Changing the design to be past 1700' is out of the question.
Yeh I meant 5 tiers, for me it's a shame but still it's going to be the most epic tower.
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The current iteration already has 4 tiers, the initial one with the same height had 5, regardless NYguy is right, this building under current zoning cant be built taller than 1642', and even then, it has always been designed around 1570-80'. Changing the design to be past 1700' is out of the question.
Regardless of the height, this stunning tower is a 21st-century New York's interpretation of the Chrysler Buildind next door. These two towers complement each other beautifully.
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By adding a spire, it could exceed 1,700 ft in height.
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By adding a spire, it could exceed 1,700 ft in height.
Adding a spire would still need to stop at 1642', any element that is stationary cannot exceed the 1642' boundary.
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Adding a spire would still need to stop at 1642', any element that is stationary cannot exceed the 1642' boundary.
And who says that's the limit? The maximum limit in New York is 2,000 feet.
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And who says that's the limit? The maximum limit in New York is 2,000 feet.
Buildings/projects have their heights dictated if they go through ULURP so the FAA limit does not apply, it is just an "overarching" requirement. This building went through ULURP and the maximum envelope that was established for it was 1642'. Not all building's go through ULURP, for those buildings, unless zoning has it's own requirements, only then is the 2000' FAA threshold used.
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Yeah, they’re not going to want to go through another ULURP. Besides, they’ve expressed their intent not to build the city’s talles tower here.


https://nypost.com/2025/11/23/business/n...-top-end-of-manhattan-end-office-market/

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”There are number of properties with lots of discussions going on but not underway yet,” he said.

Most prominent among them is 175 Park Ave., for which Riguardi is the leasing agent. The proposed cloudbuster on East 42nd Street to be developed by RXR and TF Cornerstone would consume the Grand Hyatt Hotel and rise to nearly 1,600 feet. Tweaks are still being made to the design by architectural firm SOM.
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Anchor Tenants Are Disrupting Manhattan’s Office Market — in a Good Way


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.....RXR and TF Cornerstone have an equally optimistic outlook for their development near Grand Central Terminal. The two developers are replacing the Grand Hyatt Hotel at 175 Park Avenue with a dramatic 1,600-foot office-and-hotel tower known as 175 Park — a project that Tighe calls the “most ambitious skyscraper” being built in the city due to its sheer scale and complexity.

Some of those complex details include demolishing the 26-story Hyatt hotel down to the ground floor in order to prevent major disruptions to train activity in Grand Central, as well as removing several large structural columns that block access to the subway station.

RXR and TF Cornerstone also plan to build a new public train hall and a 12,000-square-foot passageway linking to Long Island Rail Road train platforms. Elder said RXR plans to break ground next year and is “confident” it will have an anchor tenant before construction starts.
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This is going to redefine “iconic”!
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let's first hope the hyatt sees the wrecking ball for 2026.
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With financing being wrapped up by June, I suspect we will begin to see some filings early next year, or at least by June.
















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Developers race to build as Manhattan office rents reach $300 per square foot


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December 4, 2025


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At the turn of the millennium office rents in Manhattan crossed a previously unfathomable threshold.

“'My father predicted we would see rates of $100 a square foot by the end of the century, and people told him he was crazy,” Cushman & Wakefield executive Tara Stacom said in 2000. “Well here we are and here they are.”

Those rates seem quaint now.
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“Companies are willing to pay rents that none of us would ever have anticipated,” said Mary Ann Tighe, New York’s top commercial broker and CEO of CBRE’s tri-state region.

Towers commanding the highest rents include 1 Vanderbilt Ave., 425 Park Ave., the General Motors Building at 767 Fifth Ave., and Citadel’s headquarters building that’s poised to soon rise up at 350 Park Ave. Citadel is paying $300 a square foot for top-floor space at 425 Park.

Tighe said 175 Park Ave., a tower that RXR has been trying to build for several years, has found someone to pay $300 per square foot, though she wouldn’t identify the tenant.

“$300 is real conversation, it’s not a one-off,” Tighe said during a panel in which she was joined by top executives from Fisher Brothers, Related Cos., and Rudin.
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270, 175, and 350 will be the most hyper-sybaritic towers anywhere on Earth.

All within a 5 minute walk.

All taller than The Twin Towers.

Stunning.

And there will be more as the century marches on.

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Great news.

I hope the current dumpy hotel finally gets the wrecking ball in the next few months.
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This is the one tower I truly can't wait to see rise. Instant icon. A modern interpretation of NYC.

If this gets built. I'm booking a ticket to NYC for the inaugural opening, or soon thereafter.

The only time I was in NYC was way back in 2013, and this would be the perfect excuse.
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Will be the most iconic building built in Manhattan since One World Trade Center alongside with its neighbors in Midtown the Empire State Building and Chrysler Building. SOM desings the biggest and best.
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