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Old Posted Jul 22, 2008, 3:39 PM
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I'll start a new thread if everyone agrees and we can get the old one locked. I was thinkiong with the number of present and future projects, it may be possible to get a SSP, though some may laugh at us. I'd be sure to keep it up to date as you all know...
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2008, 3:41 PM
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ssp local would be nice and it would open the doors for more voices.
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Old Posted Jul 22, 2008, 4:28 PM
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ssp local would be nice and it would open the doors for more voices.
It might be pushing it though, since we'd probably be the smallest city to ever have ssp local. If we got it though, I'd be sure to use it often to keep up interest.

But yes, I also agree with starting a new, bigger and better, thread and locking this one.
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ssp local would be nice and it would open the doors for more voices.

lmao....i don't even know what ssp stands for...but i don't care...i support it 110% !!!!!
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agreed...

i've starting sending emails today as well...no replies yet

i think the point made earlier is valid...there will be a vocal & staunch opposition to this project from a minority of people over the summer.....that being said, i seriously doubt that it will stop this project from proceeding....
I had some decent responses from a couple of councillors, and also a couple of quick thank you notes from others.

Interestingly no responses from those who have publicly come out against the development or who are union puppets. Speaks volumes. They are not interested in the best for the City, only those special interest groups who make so much noise, when they are by far the minority.
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2008, 5:35 PM
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If we go for a SSP local, what categories should we use?

I'm thinking:

DEVELOPMENT/CONSTRUCTION
-Saint John
-Suburbs
-Rumours

PHOTOS

POLITICS

ENTERTAINMENT

Just to keep it simple
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From todays Telegraph Journal...


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SAINT JOHN - It's an urban success story, one that could, according to at least one observer, represent a small victory in the war against illiteracy and a looming provincial labour shortage.

Enlarge Photo Noel Chenier/Telegraph-JournalNarinder Singh, the general manager of Saint John Non-Profit Housing Association, says Leinster Court in uptown Saint John will help create a healthy neighbourhood. Years ago, Narinder Singh and the Saint John Non-Profit Housing Association began their fight to build a mixed-income housing project in the heart of uptown Saint John, with the goal of integrating all socio-economic levels of society.

"I look at what makes a healthy neighbourhood and a healthy neighbourhood is one that contains people from all backgrounds and all income levels, who are able to live together," says Singh, the general manager of Leinster Court, a 52-unit, mixed-income housing complex in uptown Saint John. "Low-income people are already part of the community and they should blend into it."

Singh's view, however, is a relatively new one, born of the urban planning mistakes made in the 1960s and 1970s when Saint John - and the rest of North America - tore down its older neighbourhoods to build housing projects that essentially concentrated the low-income populace within a few square blocks.

"If you concentrate people from a low-income bracket in one area, at the same time you reinforce stereotypes in that area," Singh said. "They almost become a segregated community within that community, and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy."

The City of Saint John has identified five areas that its calls "priority," meaning there's a high concentration of poverty in the area: the lower south end, lower west side, Crescent Valley, the area north of Union street, and the old north end.

In Fredericton, the city has a tendency to concentrate lower-income housing on the north side of the river, cutting it off from the downtown core.

Ken Peacock, a public-policy researcher at the University of New Brunswick Saint John, says the city's Crescent Valley area, just like subsidized housing across the river in Fredericton, has essentially been separated from necessities.

"Although it's in the city's urban core, it's far removed from services like health care, or library services," he said. "These are services that poor families need to ensure they can succeed economically."

"One of the reasons why it's very difficult to engage in meaningful economic activity in these neighbourhoods is because you're really cut off from the rest of the city."

Attached to this concentration of poverty is lower labour-force participation, lower education levels and the lack of the creative vitality that a city needs in order to thrive.

"You essentially have homogeneity of poverty," Peacock said.

Opening these communities up to the rest of the city and integrating mixed-income housing into the areas can help lower levels of illiteracy and raise labour force participation, which, in the case of Crescent Valley, is about 20 points below the rest of the city, said Peacock.

But it can't be done without a lot of effort.

Aside from the various hoops that an organization has to jump through if they want government funding, there are also city zoning issues to deal with and that means the often-negative input of neighbourhood residents.

In the case of Leinster Court, Singh says most of the objections were about the design and scope of the building and whether it would fit in with the neighbourhood.

Yet, since it opened its doors in March, Singh says the feedback from the community about the heritage-brick style building has been 100-per-cent positive.

Most recently, in Fredericton, residents of a north side neighbourhood appeared before city council to voice their objections to a proposed 12 unit development for low-income, off-reserve First Nations people.

But residents aside, cities across North America have recognized their error and are taking steps to fix it.

"We're aware of issues, and the city is working towards a new municipal plan that will probably be based more on a neighbourhood level," said Sarah Herring, an urban planner with the City of Saint John.

Frank Flanagan, director of development services for the City of Fredericton, says the city is doing its best to encourage more - and more integrated - affordable housing.

In addition to reworking their municipal plan, the city will also be reviewing its zoning bylaws to ease the process.

Though residents may complain, Singh, at least, sees the contribution these housing projects make to the greater good.

"Leinster Court is a huge asset to uptown Saint John, and we're very pleased it ended up being developed," he said. "Even though it was a lot of hard work, at the end of the day it was worth it, because a healthy city is an integrated city."
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If we go for a SSP local, what categories should we use?

I'm thinking:

DEVELOPMENT/CONSTRUCTION
-Saint John
-Suburbs
-Rumours

PHOTOS

POLITICS

ENTERTAINMENT

Just to keep it simple

For the Development / Construction I would also have a seperate section for the the Uptown Peninsula
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2008, 7:03 PM
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For the Development / Construction I would also have a seperate section for the the Uptown Peninsula
I definitely second the idea of a separate Uptown development section, as well as having a separate section for industrial developments, since there are so many of them, and we could finally have a place to catalogue the expansion within the industrial parks.
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2008, 9:03 PM
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I love how people where afraid of leinster ct not sitting well with the neighborhood and they chose to put vinyl siding on th back, it is an angry point for me.


So how do we go about this new sub-forum. Should someone PM a Mod.
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Old Posted Jul 23, 2008, 11:17 PM
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For suburbs can we separate the Valley from grand bay-westfield
and add an energy sector thread to cover canaport, the new refinery and the pipeline
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Old Posted Jul 24, 2008, 2:57 AM
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Something like this?

DEVELOPMENT/CONSTRUCTION
-Saint John South/Central Penninsula
-Saint John
-Industrial
-KV /Hampton
-Grand Bay/Westfield
-Rumours

PHOTOS

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from news889.com site

"Welcome Back" expected to help with repatriation efforts

By: News 88-9's Denise Miller



SAINT JOHN - And hopefully many more who have outmigrated.

The country singer will be making his music video for the welcome back tune right here in the port city.

Enterprise Saint John annoucned today that in conjunction with country singer Chris Cummings, the remake and video for the John Sebastian tune "Welcome Back" will be filmed here in Saint John.

Sara Stashick with Enterprise Saint John said besides the promotion the city will get from the video...there will be so much more.

"I don't want to give away any of the details at this point but we're talking to folks at CMT and Chris's recording label about some cross promotional opportunities with CMT as well and a couple of other national media outlets," she said.

"So this is not something that is going to go away at the end of September, it's going to be around for a good long time."

Cummings said he has recently moved back to the area after a decade long absense and said this will be his second shoot in the area.

"I had thought about wanting to shoot another video in New Brunswick since we had Somewhere Inside back in '97." Cummings said.

The video will be filmed August 20th-24th and will be launched on CMT in September.
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I'm sorry but this kind of "Country Music" is not going to bring people back to Saint John. Since when is Saint John a country city..lol.. The last time I checked it was all about Punk, Rock and Hip Hop.. Country music is hot garbage.. It doesn't matter where your from if your in the country music industry everyone sounds like they're from Texas. The stupid TWANG...uhhhhh :
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I'm sorry but this kind of "Country Music" is not going to bring people back to Saint John. Since when is Saint John a country city..lol.. The last time I checked it was all about Punk, Rock and Hip Hop.. Country music is hot garbage.. It doesn't matter where your from if your in the country music industry everyone sounds like they're from Texas. The stupid TWANG...uhhhhh :
Saint John isn't a country city? I'm not fan myself, but if you travel around this city, you'll start to see country music fanatics coming out of the woodwork - there are thousands of them! New Brunswick as a whole is country music central (for better or worse).
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The stupid TWANG...uhhhhh :

LMAO...sjtoko...thou doth protest too much.....i'll bet you're a country fan at heart.....





i'm not a great country fan either, but exposure is exposure & this does further showcase us on a broader stage. .

kwajo is right, too - there are more country fans in this city than you can shake a stick out...they all come crawling out of the woodwork @ the mention of a concert.....
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A cool pic from the newspaper today:


Noel Chenier/Telegraph-Journal

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Noel Chenier/Telegraph-Journal
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SJ cleans up very well for pictures, id have to say !
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