noirish Los Angeles

[tovangar2]

Yeah, so Gyssling lived in the N Curson house? I wish there was more on that. He must have had swell parties.

[HossC]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

*Yep, it looks like a billboard for Western Diary Products.

close-up


So what street would that be dead-ending at Loomis? -and the hotel on the corner? (so many questions )

The street "dead-ending at Loomis" was 6th Street, although Loomis actually dead-ends at 6th (see Baist map below). The hotel on the corner was the Elk Hotel at 947 W 6th Street (from the 1932 CD). It's just possible to make out the name on this USC image which looks like it was probably taken at the same time as the cityscape. It also gives a better view of the Western Dairy billboards.


Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

The billboards are missing from this shot of Loomis Street. The full versions of both of these images can be seen in post #2858 by e_r.


Detail of picture in USC Digital Library

Here's Loomis Street on the 1921 Baist map (slightly enlarged).


www.historicmapworks.com

Here's the area in 1948, just before the Harbor Freeway. I couldn't see any signs of an alien invasion .


Historic Aerials

[ethereal_reality]

Hey, thanks a lot HossC!

Originally Posted by Flyingwedge

Korbel Block; State Street is on the left, and 1st Street is on the right:


Ack!

June 2014 GSV

Ack! is right FW. What a horrible transformation.
Is it possible the arched window are still there...under that horrific front?
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[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Yeah, so Gyssling lived in the N Curson house? I wish there was more on that. He must have had swell parties.

lapl


I just found this:


http://www.heise.de/tp/artikel/35/35067/1.html

Does anyone know who Elly Beihorn is? The site I found this on is in German (I couldn't get it to translate)

[ethereal_reality]

I'm posting too quickly. I just found another version of the same photograph on a different site.



http://petrotimes.vn/news/vn/van-hoa...u-the-nao.html

So Elly Beinhorn was an aviatrix. (note that she was identified as 'Beihorn' in the other photo)

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[tovangar2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elly_Beinhorn
http://www.fembio.org/english/biogra...elly-beinhorn/

"[In 1934] Elly shipped the plane to Panama, then flew through Mexico and California before crossing the United States to Washington DC and Miami. Elly and the plane returned to Germany by ship, arriving in January 1935". -wiki

She lived to be 100:

ww2gravestone.com

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Thanks for the help on the house e_r. That was the bit I missed.

[tovangar2]

All this talk of La Crescent made me (sort of) remember the flood out that way. I had to look it up again.

Two minutes into 1934, after heavy rains, a 20-foot-high wall of mud, water and debris came out of the San Gabriel's and took out Pickens Canyon, killing 45 and destroying 100 homes.

Twelve people, who had sought safety in the American Legion Post at Rosemont and Fairway, were killed when it filled with mud.

The American Legion building before the flood (I think):

www.crescentavalleyweekly.com

And after:

cvhistory.org

Another "after":

cvhistory.org

The path of the flood:
cvhistory.org[/I]

Today (the American Legion's former site is marked):

google maps

The American Legion Hall was trucked to La Crescenta and Manhattan and remodeled. It's still in use:

gsv

There's a memorial to the flood victims at the American Legion hall's original site. The flood control channel passes right under it:


A system of crib dams, debris basins and flood channels has been built. It's unlikely 1934's level of damage will happen again.

The Pickens Canyon Channel emerges at Altura and passes over the Foothill freeway:

google maps

More info here, here and here

[Martin Pal]

Originally Posted by so-cal-bear

Wow! I remember the All American Burger on Vermont Ave and Olympic streets. There were more that I saw back in the early 80's as a kid. There was one in the Hollywood area too. My mind is getting too old to remember the actual locations.

I don't know how many of these restaurants there were, I don't recall seeing a lot of them, but the Hollywood one might be the one at 7660 Sunset Blvd., a few blocks east of Fairfax Ave.

CityData



But it's recently no more:

Darryl Forat

It's now a Chipotle. A friend and I stopped in here a couple times the past year. It never occurred to me that it was the All American Burger location.



They used the same signage.



The Sunset Blvd. All American Burger has been used as a filming location, redressed as the "Clown Dog"
for a film and it was in a second season episode of Californication and a first season episode of Southland.

I ate there once while attending a screening at the Harmony Gold Theatre diagonally across the street
at 7655 Sunset Blvd.

Cinema Treasures

Before it was known as Harmony Gold it was called the Preview House, a TV research facility. You could be invited or get tickets to go here. You would be asked to watch a television program. It could be an existing series or a pilot for a new series. It could also be commericals. You would be supplied with a dial and encouraged to move the dial to whatever level of enjoymen (or not) you were experiencing. I do remember going here once and seeing an existing comedy program; it was a military comedy is all I can recall, that wasn't on the air long. I also saw a group of commercials they were testing for a new product. Something like an aspirin or pain pill. Afterwards they took us all to a room in the building set up with many shelves like a store and all had different kinds of pain pill remedies on them, including the new one. We were asked to "shop" for one and told we could keep whatever one we picked. I decided to take the new one as I just thought that would be interesting, but if you did, you weren't allowed to take that one, you were asked to get another one. A third time I went it was a sitcom pilot. It starred Andrea McArdle, who had recently been the star of the new musical, at the time, Annie. The premise was that her father married a woman with a son the same age as Andrea. And Andrea and the son hate each other. I remember it didn't seem very amusing to have a show based on a premise of two people hating each other. It never sold I guess.

At some point in the 1980's it turned into a screening room where groups rented it out for screenings to their memberships, like SAG or BAFTA, etc. I was invited to some of those over the years.

This L.A. Times Article from 1992 cites that Harmony Gold officials wished to turn the theatre into a 400 seat legit theatre as well as still hold screenings there and there was a lot of neighborhood protest about it. I guess that's why in 1990-91 a charity group was allowed to present a musical there which I saw. Maybe they got the idea from that. It never happened, though, it's still a screening facility.

[ethereal_reality]

Interesting post on the 1934 La Crescenta-Montrose flood tragedy tovanger2.

originally posted by t2


It's so sad that twelve people died inside this Legion Hall.(as well as the 33 deaths elsewhere)
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I found this interesting map that was published back in 1934. (the Legion Hall is noted)


http://www.adventuresofrustywaters.c...d-map-for-1934

Damn! That's a Big Map! -it was either this size or small, I couldn't get medium to work.



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[Tetsu]

Originally Posted by tovangar2

Oh, that railing. I didn't count that because I'm waiting for something more in keeping with the house. Building and Safety probably made the owner change it to the present arrangement so that kids wouldn't fall off the porch.

The Forget could sure do with an appropriate paint job too. With the one now, one doesn't really notice the fish-scale shingles or the other distinctive trim. However, the Forget is fully rented so the owner isn't really motivated.

Are there any RBY's around that are done up as they should be? It's so distressing looking at so many neglected gems.

Something more sensitive to the original architecture would be great.

I can't think of any other RBY homes aside from the Forget and its neighbor on 11th, though I'm sure I'm just drawing a blank right now. Perhaps Beaudry can help?

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On another note, wanted to share a photo of Save-Way Drugs at 1795 E. Colorado Blvd. in Pasadena (NW corner Colorado & Allen Avenue). Pic is dated 10-12-1939.

my file, prob HDL

When I was growing up, it was the Pac Mann Arcade (Google search suggests it was the Pak Mann, I must never have noticed) and was a good place to play a huge collection of old school arcade games, smoke cigarettes underage, and score dime bags.

In the early 2000's the Pac Mann (Pak Mann) closed and the building was completely remodeled. Yuck.

https://melancholick.files.wordpress...pacmanarc1.jpg

[Tetsu]

Here's an aerial view (probably a close up) of 3rd & Alvarado, dated July 16th, 1936. e_r posted another photo from this aerial in post #1105.

Does anyone know anything about the house at the SW corner? Or have any other photos, for that matter?

USCDL

The two apartment buildings at the top, on the east side of the 300 S. block of Alvarado, are still there, though they have seen better days.

GSV

[Hollywood Graham]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Interesting post on the 1934 La Crescenta-Montrose flood tragedy tovanger2.

originally posted by t2


It's so sad that twelve people died inside this Legion Hall.(as well as the 33 deaths elsewhere)
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I found this interesting map that was published back in 1934. (the Legion Hall is noted)


http://www.adventuresofrustywaters.c...d-map-for-1934

Damn! That a Big Map! -it was either this size or small, I couldn't get medium to work.



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For twenty years, starting in 1970 I lived at the bottom of Ramsdell Ave. next to the flood channel. I built several walls on the edge of my property, in the footing trenches I was forever finding lug nuts, milk bottles, prohibition prescription alcohol bottles and bits and pieces of items. All I guess from that terrible flood.

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by Hollywood Graham

For twenty years, starting in 1970 I lived at the bottom of Ramsdell Ave. next to the flood channel.
I built several walls on the edge of my property, in the footing trenches I was forever finding lug nuts, milk bottles,
prohibition prescription alcohol bottles and bits and pieces of items. All I guess from that terrible flood.

Thanks for sharing this with us HG.
Kind of eerie that you were digging up the detritus of the 1934 flood so many years later.
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I've been trying to find information on the 'Van Deusen Estate', that was also noted on the 1934 flood map.
If you turn your head to the left and squint , you can see that it was located on 'Castle Road'.
That makes me wonder if the road was named after the estate? (that is, if the estate resembled a castle)



So far, I haven't come up with anything.
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[GaylordWilshire]

Originally Posted by Tetsu

Here's an aerial view (probably a close up) of 3rd & Alvarado, dated July 16th, 1936. e_r posted another photo from this aerial in post #1105.

Does anyone know anything about the house at the SW corner? Or have any other photos, for that matter?

USCDL

There is a house in Silver Lake called the Garbutt house-- Garbutt was in the movie business among other things--maybe mining--and built the SL house in the '20s. He lived at the SW corner of Third & Alvarado before that. Not that I've ever made it a priority, but I've never found a good picture of it--or any picture. Maybe someone will...


PS Went looking again for shots of the (1st) Garbutt house at Alvarado & 3rd-- again, nothing in the usual places, but I did find a pic of the Shell station caddy-corner to it:

USCDL

[Krell58]

Originally Posted by Those Who Squirm

Liver pâté isn't all that unbelievable. Lots of people like Braunschweiger or liverwurst on sandwiches, and that's basically the same thing. OTOH if you mean foie gras then yeah, I do see your point.

I loved Braunschweiger sandwiches with extra Miracle Whip as a child, now, not so much.

[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Martin Pal

I ate there once while attending a screening at the Harmony Gold Theatre diagonally across the street
at 7655 Sunset Blvd.

Cinema Treasures

Before it was known as Harmony Gold it was called the Preview House, a TV research facility. You could be invited or get tickets to go here. You would be asked to watch a television program. It could be an existing series or a pilot for a new series. It could also be commericals. You would be supplied with a dial and encouraged to move the dial to whatever level of enjoymen (or not) you were experiencing. I do remember going here once and seeing an existing comedy program; it was a military comedy is all I can recall, that wasn't on the air long. I also saw a group of commercials they were testing for a new product. Something like an aspirin or pain pill. Afterwards they took us all to a room in the building set up with many shelves like a store and all had different kinds of pain pill remedies on them, including the new one. We were asked to "shop" for one and told we could keep whatever one we picked. I decided to take the new one as I just thought that would be interesting, but if you did, you weren't allowed to take that one, you were asked to get another one. A third time I went it was a sitcom pilot. It starred Andrea McArdle, who had recently been the star of the new musical, at the time, Annie. The premise was that her father married a woman with a son the same age as Andrea. And Andrea and the son hate each other. I remember it didn't seem very amusing to have a show based on a premise of two people hating each other. It never sold I guess.

At some point in the 1980's it turned into a screening room where groups rented it out for screenings to their memberships, like SAG or BAFTA, etc. I was invited to some of those over the years.

This L.A. Times Article from 1992 cites that Harmony Gold officials wished to turn the theatre into a 400 seat legit theatre as well as still hold screenings there and there was a lot of neighborhood protest about it. I guess that's why in 1990-91 a charity group was allowed to present a musical there which I saw. Maybe they got the idea from that. It never happened, though, it's still a screening facility.

I have to smile Martin Pal because I once attended the Preview House back in the 1970s.

A friend of mine knew the MC at the PH theater. During the screening of a new TV program the MC would have a drawing and read the number of the seat that someone was sitting in. That person would then win a prize. I think it was $35.....if I recall correctly.

That drawing was rigged. The MC always had the number of the seat his friend sat and the ''friend'' would get the prize. Is there corruption in Hollywood...yes.

Later that year I attended a party at the MC's home. The cute boy bartender at the party was dressed as a..... Nazi Storm Trooper. Those were strange times.

[ethereal_reality]

Originally Posted by CityBoyDoug

Later that year I attended a party at the MC's home. The cute boy bartender at the party was dressed as a..... Nazi Storm Trooper. Those were strange times.

Really!? I love you CityBoyDoug, but are you making this up to fit with the current discussion of the American-Bund?

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[CityBoyDoug]

Originally Posted by Krell58

I loved Braunschweiger sandwiches with extra Miracle Whip as a child, now, not so much.

My mom used to make us Braunschweiger sandwiches. Not too bad with some mustard. I guess she got the idea from some German people she knew in Russell, Kansas in the 1930s.

Remember the film "Paper Moon" 1973....it was partially filmed in Russell. I've been to all of the places seen in that movie.

[Flyingwedge]

Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Ack! is right FW. What a horrible transformation.
Is it possible the arched window are still there...under that horrific front?
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We'll have to declare a "Missing Arched Window Day" and look for those arched windows as well as those missing from the 1st floor of the Bradbury Building!

[ethereal_reality]

A "Missing Arched Windows Day" sounds good to me Flyingwedge!