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Old Posted Jul 1, 2010, 5:35 AM
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Vancouver airport firm buys into three U.K. facilities

Good to see YVR Airport Services is back on the expansion path after the collapse of the Chicago Midway airport deal and losing the bid to manage London Gatwick. Liverpool might not be as big as Gatwick, but it's probably a more appropriate size for YVRAS to manage anyway.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2010, 7:21 AM
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Interesting. Who's it geared to? Maybe locals who have a transit pass or faresavers. Definitely not for someone who drives there - that parkade is the biggest rip-off in town.
Not necessarily. Drivers can go and park for free at Templeton Station, just before entering the Staff Parking Lot/Drop off areas, their's a little dirt road where people park and then explore Sea Island to take photos of planes touching down, or walking through the trails. From there on, your on the Airport Island, so you can ride the Canada Line for free.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 1, 2010, 5:13 PM
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Don't think this has been posted yet:

Vancouver airport firm buys into three U.K. facilities

Good to see YVR Airport Services is back on the expansion path after the collapse of the Chicago Midway airport deal and losing the bid to manage London Gatwick. Liverpool might not be as big as Gatwick, but it's probably a more appropriate size for YVRAS to manage anyway.
Nice to know that YVR is expanding its interests and presence. It's a form of reassurance, given that we seem to be incrementally chipped away at to become a spoke, and never a major hub.

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Old Posted Jul 1, 2010, 5:23 PM
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The Vancouver Airport Authority has a pretty strong reputation as an airport operator -- especially given its successful transformation when the government handed over operations of the airport to the local authority.

YVRAS manages a decent collection of small-medium sized airports around BC and the world. They've got some financial clout with Citigroup owning a major stake as well. And infrastructure plays can be very lucrative.

Given the economic situation in the UK, though, I think they've set themselves a challenge with this acquisition.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 4, 2010, 10:42 PM
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Impressive May Passenger Traffic

Did anyone see YVR's May results?

Overall up 7.3%
Domestic up 3.9%
Transborder 9.1%
Asia Pacific 15.8%
Europe 3.5%
Misc 77.7% (assume this is Mexico/Caribbean?)

So, the question is, is there anything in particular to drive this growth - I couldn't think of anything - Olympics were well and truly over, or was May 2009 just particulary not a good month?
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2010, 12:05 AM
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The Vancouver Airport Authority has a pretty strong reputation as an airport operator -- especially given its successful transformation when the government handed over operations of the airport to the local authority.

YVRAS manages a decent collection of small-medium sized airports around BC and the world. They've got some financial clout with Citigroup owning a major stake as well. And infrastructure plays can be very lucrative.

Given the economic situation in the UK, though, I think they've set themselves a challenge with this acquisition.

Yes, that's true. But still .... imagine if they had been able to acquire LGW .....
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2010, 12:13 AM
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Did anyone see YVR's May results?

Overall up 7.3%
Domestic up 3.9%
Transborder 9.1%
Asia Pacific 15.8%
Europe 3.5%
Misc 77.7% (assume this is Mexico/Caribbean?)

So, the question is, is there anything in particular to drive this growth - I couldn't think of anything - Olympics were well and truly over, or was May 2009 just particulary not a good month?
Economic recovery.

May 2006-1.41m
May 2007-1.44m
May 2008-1.54m
May 2009-1.32m
May 2010-1.42m
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2010, 12:20 AM
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Did anyone see YVR's May results?

Overall up 7.3%
Domestic up 3.9%
Transborder 9.1%
Asia Pacific 15.8%
Europe 3.5%
Misc 77.7% (assume this is Mexico/Caribbean?)

So, the question is, is there anything in particular to drive this growth - I couldn't think of anything - Olympics were well and truly over, or was May 2009 just particulary not a good month?
Cruise ship season - more passengers fly in for that

in fact today there were 3 of them at the canada place terminal - one looked like a japanese cruise ship line
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2010, 3:48 AM
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Alaska Airlines is apparently closing down their members' lounge at YVR. Air Canada must have got to them somehow.
     
     
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There might be more truth to this than you realize.

Competition on West Coast routes is fierce -- particularly from Star Alliance carriers (of which Air Canada is one). I was surprised to note that Alaska is down to three routes out of Vancouver: Seattle, Portland and Los Angeles. So maintaining a lounge doesn't seem to make a lot of business sense.

At one point, I believe YVR was the third-largest focus city in Alaska's network.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2010, 5:47 AM
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I wonder if Vancouverite Gregg Saretsky's departure (and eventual landing at Westjet) had anything to to do with their diminishing interest in Vancouver.

We have to realize Vancouver is in general a low-yield leisure market.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2010, 3:28 PM
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LA has 11 or12 flights \day from yvr in the Summer & SFO has 7 including WestJet's seasonal service. The LA market is saturated.

I would expect westJet will move to daily service once they get more planes

We could also see Virgin America enter the market.

I think WJ should have Wi Fi on it's panes.
     
     
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I wonder if Vancouverite Gregg Saretsky's departure (and eventual landing at Westjet) had anything to to do with their diminishing interest in Vancouver.

We have to realize Vancouver is in general a low-yield leisure market.
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LA has 11 or12 flights \day from yvr in the Summer & SFO has 7 including WestJet's seasonal service. The LA market is saturated.

I would expect westJet will move to daily service once they get more planes

We could also see Virgin America enter the market.

I think WJ should have Wi Fi on it's panes.

It's true that Vancouver is a low-yield leisure market, and that this will not change until there are more head offices here, more industry (clean industry) and a diversified economy. If / when Vancouver reaches such a state, I wonder what other markets would be attractive for the city.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 5, 2010, 9:23 PM
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... coming to the Vancouver Convention Centre in September. It will be interesting to see if anything for YVR develops out of this. That's what it's all about; routes and destinations.
     
     
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This is bound to give YVR some nightmares, Bellingham has been rated the cheapest American airport to fly out of to anywhere in the USA. Allegiant's coming service to Hawai'i is bound to take a big chunk of business away from YVR flights to the Islands.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB127880371924115595.html?mod=WSJ_LifeStyle_Travel
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2010, 6:08 AM
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This is bound to give YVR some nightmares, Bellingham has been rated the cheapest American airport to fly out of to anywhere in the USA. Allegiant's coming service to Hawai'i is bound to take a big chunk of business away from YVR flights to the Islands.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB127880371924115595.html?mod=WSJ_LifeStyle_Travel
Well honestly, there are more Canadians than Americans, from what I've heard,
on the Bellingham flights, so this isn't really anything new.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 14, 2010, 2:13 PM
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My guess is that it affects Abbotsford's flights to US destinations quite a bit.

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Old Posted Jul 14, 2010, 2:42 PM
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Well honestly, there are more Canadians than Americans, from what I've heard,
on the Bellingham flights, so this isn't really anything new.
Not new, but BLI is really going after flights aggressively. They'll be closed for 3 weeks in Sept to expand the runway:
http://www.portofbellingham.com/library/...ic_notification-Runway-Taxiway_Alpha.pdf
     
     
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Taking Allegiant is definitely an experience. . .basically akin to driving on a party bus to whatever destination you're headed. People are drunk before they hit the seats, the flights are always 'fun', and the flight attendants look like they have plenty of experiences choking bitches who get out of hand. Having said that, it's good times and so incredibly cheap, EVEN factoring in the Airporter trip and time. Way cheaper than YVR and the airporter drops you off at your front door if you live in Vancouver proper, not something YVR can claim. So worth it.
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Well honestly, there are more Canadians than Americans, from what I've heard,
on the Bellingham flights, so this isn't really anything new.
I've heard from many friends that they go to Bellingham for US destinations
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