CHICAGO | General Developments - Page 1418

BWChicago · #**28341** Posted **Apr 24, 2015, 3:18 AM**

I'd be surprised if there was anything left to restore.
http://books.google.com/books?id=jyn...ghting&f=false
http://www.mekong.net/random/photos/...ud_img0066.jpg
It wasn't an elaborate theater in the first place and numerous renovations probably took most of the remaining detail. I know Theatre Historical Society has one of the big sconces, so probably the rest of those are gone. Not that much too it but a few stock plaster ornament courses.

Tom, is your friend A.G.?

george · #**28342** Posted **Apr 24, 2015, 8:38 PM**

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Originally Posted by LouisVanDerWright

36 unit apt building:

courtesy of Curbed

4/24

Southeast corner of Division and Honore
The panels with windows all went up in the last 24hrs.

jcchii · #**28343** Posted **Apr 24, 2015, 9:11 PM**

Nice to see this kind of thing there^

george · #**28344** Posted **Apr 24, 2015, 10:51 PM**

J_M_Tungsten · #**28345** Posted **Apr 24, 2015, 10:51 PM**

Wow! Nice update there

i_am_hydrogen · #**28346** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 2:26 AM**

The future site of 514 W Diversey has been cleared. Fencing has also been erected, so I'm expected work to begin relatively soon.

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20140...c4c0-173176793

BVictor1 · #**28347** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 5:39 AM**

Capping the Kennedy

http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2...comment-575754

the urban politician · #**28348** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 12:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by i_am_hydrogen

The future site of 514 W Diversey has been cleared. Fencing has also been erected, so I'm expected work to begin relatively soon.

http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20140...c4c0-173176793

Sigh.... what is up with DNAInfo's website? It seems to be problematic on a regular basis.

Can anybody remind me what this project is?

pip · #**28349** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 2:00 PM**

^

Chicago Shawn · #**28350** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 3:37 PM**

So we could have had a elegant Berkelheimer designed steel and glass 5 story building on Division Street, but ended up with a 4 story box made from tilt-up precast panels? Thanks NIMBYs. Still better than the Trader Joe's concept though.

I guess tilt up panels might be a positive development trend in Chicago as far as cost efficiencies go. Too bad they usually look like crap.

the urban politician · #**28351** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 4:13 PM**

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Originally Posted by pip

^

^ Cool, great news.

But I'm also counting 12 stories, which technically makes this a highrise, right?

PKDickman · #**28352** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 5:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chicago Shawn

So we could have had a elegant Berkelheimer designed steel and glass 5 story building on Division Street, but ended up with a 4 story box made from tilt-up precast panels? Thanks NIMBYs. Still better than the Trader Joe's concept though.

I guess tilt up panels might be a positive development trend in Chicago as far as cost efficiencies go. Too bad they usually look like crap.

If you wish, you can thank the NIMBYs for it not being 5 stories, but this is the design the NIMBYs approved.

The tip-up construction is just bait and switch by the developer.
Now we know what constitutes "substantial compliance" to a Type 1 zoning change.
By the way, I think Berkelheimer designed the tip-up as well.

ardecila · #**28353** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 6:56 PM**

^ what makes you think this is bait and switch? Precast is a construction method that falls outside of the purview of the zoning change. I'm sure the facades along Division and Honore will be similar to what was shown in the rendering.

If you remember Smithfield's project at Chicago/LaSalle, another Berkelhamer design, it also made heavy use of precast for the podium but the finished facades were steel and glass.

ardecila · #**28354** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 7:15 PM**

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Originally Posted by BVictor1

Capping the Kennedy

http://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2...comment-575754

Not sure the point of your comment, but the developments in the rendering look exactly like what you would get with a DX-12 zoning. They are just zoning envelopes after all, not even massing models. A real tower would probably adopt the tower and podium model for additional height.

I firmly disagree that this site is appropriate for even taller things like supertalls... The economics wouldn't really allow anything taller than Skybridge.

PKDickman · #**28355** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 7:37 PM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

^ what makes you think this is bait and switch? Precast is a construction method that falls outside of the purview of the zoning change. I'm sure the facades along Division and Honore will be similar to what was shown in the rendering.

If you remember Smithfield's project at Chicago/LaSalle, another Berkelhamer design, it also made heavy use of precast for the podium but the finished facades were steel and glass.

UrbanLibertine · #**28356** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 8:34 PM**

The gorgeous church at Shakespeare and Richmond (near Palmer Square) is being converted into 10 apartments.

ardecila · #**28357** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 10:55 PM**

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Originally Posted by PKDickman

Thanks for the visual reference. Indeed there was a change. But the earlier (colorful) design was for the Trader Joe's proposal that failed, no? That zoning amendment never passed City Council, so this current proposal is being built as-of-right under the older zoning of B3-3.

I still wouldn't call this a bait and switch, the community never approved the larger all-glass version.

sage · #**28358** Posted **Apr 25, 2015, 11:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by UrbanLibertine

The gorgeous church at Shakespeare and Richmond (near Palmer Square) is being converted into 10 apartments.

Fantastic, do you know when work will get started on this? I just recently moved a couple buildings away from that church, so it will be nice to look out and not see plywood on their windows.

PKDickman · #**28359** Posted **Apr 26, 2015, 1:17 AM**

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Originally Posted by ardecila

Thanks for the visual reference. Indeed there was a change. But the earlier (colorful) design was for the Trader Joe's proposal that failed, no? That zoning amendment never passed City Council, so this current proposal is being built as-of-right under the older zoning of B3-3.

I still wouldn't call this a bait and switch, the community never approved the larger all-glass version.

No, that wasn't the TJs.
This was.

Curiously, the two white sports cars parked every other proposal are not in front.

First it was this.

After negotiation with the EVA it was downsized to 4 stories.

Smith got his letter of approval from the EVA and a type 1 change.

http://chicagocouncilmatic.org/legislation/1108663

Smith applied for a permit but LETY (his ground floor tenant) Backed out and the project stalled Then TJs came in and Smith had a new proposal. The TJ one was turned down. TJs backed out.

The TJ building could have been built under the old zoning. Smith could have let it revert and built as of right, but that would have meant the vacant land would have a significantly lower appraisal value.

Just before sunset of the Type 1, Smithfield applied for a new permit for the Tip-up.

UrbanLibertine · #**28360** Posted **Apr 26, 2015, 2:51 PM**

No, sorry. I just saw the building permits were issued. Not sure about the timeline.

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Originally Posted by sage

Fantastic, do you know when work will get started on this? I just recently moved a couple buildings away from that church, so it will be nice to look out and not see plywood on their windows.