Atlantic Canada airport thread - Page 141

habs33 · #**2801** Posted **May 15, 2024, 12:13 PM**

WestJet says it is restarting non-stop flights between Moncton, N.B., and Edmonton
https://atlantic.ctvnews.ca/westjet-...onto-1.6886473

MonctonRad · #**2802** Posted **May 15, 2024, 12:19 PM**

And WestJet service to Toronto is going to restart shortly too.

The service frequency will be:

YQM - Calgary 7x weekly (daily)
YQM - Toronto 5x weekly
YQM - Edmonton 4x weekly

So, some days this summer we will see three WestJet flights at YQM. That’s not too bad

Ozabald · #**2803** Posted **May 15, 2024, 2:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by MonctonRad

And WestJet service to Toronto is going to restart shortly too.

The service frequency will be:

YQM - Calgary 7x weekly (daily)
YQM - Toronto 5x weekly
YQM - Edmonton 4x weekly

So, some days this summer we will see three WestJet flights at YQM. That’s not too bad

Seems like WestJet is slowly reversing some of their route cuts in Eastern Canada.

sailor734 · #**2804** Posted **May 15, 2024, 3:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by Ozabald

Seems like WestJet is slowly reversing some of their route cuts in Eastern Canada.

I was thinking that too. Although it seems they are just as likely to offer a (insert eastern city here) to Calgary route than one to Toronto.

stephan.richard · #**2805** Posted **May 15, 2024, 8:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by sailor734

I was thinking that too. Although it seems they are just as likely to offer a (insert eastern city here) to Calgary route than one to Toronto.

It would be nice to have a daily or twice daily WestJet service to Toronto to aid with easing east coast connectivity. Plus help us in New Brunswick to have access to Delta’s network out of Toronto if you do not want to fly out of Halifax.

EnvisionSaintJohn · #**2806** Posted **May 15, 2024, 9:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by q12

All I can say is hope that Air Canada Express flights will return soon to/from yhz once the pilot/aircraft shortages start to normalize.

These Maritime-Halifax flights pre-pandemic allowed for the same connections in Halifax that Newfoundland have now to New York for example.

I don't know... I think we have more to hope for than that. The St. John's->Halifax->Newark flight you've shown is exactly what Saint John, Fredericton, and Moncton should be trying to get out provincial leaders to lobby for and pay up to make such routes possible.

If St. John's->Halifax->Newark is possible, so could St. John's->Moncton->Newark. Saint John and Fredericton could fit in too, even without combing their airports.

Would love to see this shared Fredericton/Saint John airport idea gain more traction before the election... it's a great idea worth exploring, and you don't need to go much further than this forum to find a detailed proposal on how and why it would work. (props to @Pugsley for that)

Moreover, would like to see the idea of flight subsidies and strategies to make our airports gain more routes become an election issue. Nova Scotia and NFLD are getting it done, NB is simply not.

MonctonRad · #**2807** Posted **May 16, 2024, 12:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by stephan.richard

It would be nice to have a daily or twice daily WestJet service to Toronto to aid with easing east coast connectivity. Plus help us in New Brunswick to have access to Delta’s network out of Toronto if you do not want to fly out of Halifax.

Yes, at least daily (year round) WestJet service to YYZ from YQM should very definitely be pursued by the city and the airport authority. Twice daily would be even better, but, I am realistic enough to realize that won't happen, at least in the short term.

WestJet only really considers Toronto as a secondary hub any more. This is why they are pushing all their traffic through Calgary. This is fine for connections to Vancouver, the western US, Hawaii and Asia, but, Toronto remains very important as a transfer point to the eastern and central US. Daily service needs to be established for these connections.

It will be most interesting to see what WestJet has up it's sleeve for winter routes from YQM now that they have purchased Sunwing. I'm hoping for some more Florida service in addition to the usual Caribbean routes.

Ozabald · #**2808** Posted **May 16, 2024, 2:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by EnvisionSaintJohn

I don't know... I think we have more to hope for than that. The St. John's->Halifax->Newark flight you've shown is exactly what Saint John, Fredericton, and Moncton should be trying to get out provincial leaders to lobby for and pay up to make such routes possible.

If St. John's->Halifax->Newark is possible, so could St. John's->Moncton->Newark. Saint John and Fredericton could fit in too, even without combing their airports.

Would love to see this shared Fredericton/Saint John airport idea gain more traction before the election... it's a great idea worth exploring, and you don't need to go much further than this forum to find a detailed proposal on how and why it would work. (props to @Pugsley for that)

Moreover, would like to see the idea of flight subsidies and strategies to make our airports gain more routes become an election issue. Nova Scotia and NFLD are getting it done, NB is simply not.

Remember, YYT had a N/S daily UA flight to Newark. Two reasons why a YYT-YHZ-EWR route works better than YYT-YQM/YFC/YSJ-EWR:
1. Halifax has pre-clearance. Makes for easier connections in Newark.
2. A St. John's passenger has the opportunity to connect to other AC flights or interline connections through YHZ. Through YQM/YFC/YSJ, there would likely be no connections or the odd one at most. And there would the reverse connections through YHZ on the return flight to YYT. A St. John's flight via NB to Newark would be entirely O&D; while the same flight through YHZ allowing for connecting passengers; plus O&D.

Bishop2047 · #**2809** Posted **May 16, 2024, 2:47 PM**

YHU now the Montreal Metropolitan airport has a new site and lists Moncton, SJ, St John's, Halifax, Charlottetown as destinations for 2025. Too early to have any specifics on that but Porter is a likely carrier.

https://metmtl.com/en/

MonctonRad · #**2810** Posted **May 16, 2024, 3:18 PM**

Excellent find!!!

Yes, I'm sure this is Porter, and would confirm an expansion of service (and a new destination) for YQM.

Also, a return of service to YSJ. If Porter is adding service from YSJ to YHU, will they also add service to YOW or YTZ??? PASCAN however also services YHU, so we could be talking about PASCAN for YSJ rather than Porter. We will have to wait and see.

So, in 2025, we will see Porter service from YQM to YOW, YTZ and YHU. That's not too bad!!

DyAm00394 · #**2811** Posted **May 16, 2024, 3:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by Bishop2047

YHU now the Montreal Metropolitan airport has a new site and lists Moncton, SJ, St John's, Halifax, Charlottetown as destinations for 2025. Too early to have any specifics on that but Porter is a likely carrier.

https://metmtl.com/en/

Nice to see Saint John on the list. Good to see more options coming in soon in addition to the recently announced regional service between SJ, Halifax and Bathurst with Pascan.

sailor734 · #**2812** Posted **May 16, 2024, 3:59 PM**

Well, fingers crossed that the YSJ route comes about and that it's Porter rather than Pascan. An itinerary that includes interline always seems to cost more than completing the entire route on one carrier

DyAm00394 · #**2813** Posted **May 17, 2024, 6:03 PM**

The Saint John Airport, (YSJ), has announced that the Flair route to Orlando Florida will be returning for 2025 due to popular demand. The route will be starting earlier this time on December 22nd, 2024.

Justanothermember · #**2814** Posted **May 17, 2024, 7:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by DyAm00394

The Saint John Airport, (YSJ), has announced that the Flair route to Orlando Florida will be returning for 2025 due to popular demand. The route will be starting earlier this time on December 22nd, 2024.

Except it's no longer SFB, but now it's MCO based on what they have loaded in the schedule. I think they've dumped SFB completely due to its poor performance out of Canadian airports.

homebody · #**2815** Posted **May 17, 2024, 8:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by Justanothermember

Except it's no longer SFB, but now it's MCO based on what they have loaded in the schedule. I think they've dumped SFB completely due to its poor performance out of Canadian airports.

Great news If it’s that popular maybe another offering to somewhere else south is on the horizon. Also SFB is a little further out of Orlando than MCO as well. Sunday rotations are a bonus as well. I think it was Tuesdays last year. Go easy haters of Flair lol.

sailor734 · #**2816** Posted **May 17, 2024, 8:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by homebody

Great news If it’s that popular maybe another offering to somewhere else south is on the horizon. Also SFB is a little further out of Orlando than MCO as well. Sunday rotations are a bonus as well. I think it was Tuesdays last year. Go easy haters of Flair lol.

No hate here. Leisure routes like this are actually where an ULCC like Flair can work.
MCO instead of Sanford is a plus as is the schedule shift to Sundays

RR Drummer · #**2817** Posted **May 18, 2024, 1:02 AM**

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Originally Posted by sailor734

No hate here. Leisure routes like this are actually where an ULCC like Flair can work.
MCO instead of Sanford is a plus as is the schedule shift to Sundays

Agreed, wholeheartedly agreed! Sunday will be much better for many as will MCO. 👏

sailor734 · #**2818** Posted **May 18, 2024, 10:21 AM**

Air Canada is having a relatively major flash sale (ends Monday night) on fares to Atlantic Canadian destinations. 15%off for July and 25% off for June and then again for Sept 4 to Dec 15.

YYZ to YSJ from 135 one way. Interestingly the fare to YQM is the same as to YSJ.

MonctonRad · #**2819** Posted **May 18, 2024, 10:43 AM**

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Originally Posted by sailor734

YYZ to YSJ from 135 one way. Interestingly the fare to YQM is the same as to YSJ.

Air Canada's ears must be burning. They must have been made aware of the complaints on social media.

sailor734 · #**2820** Posted **May 18, 2024, 11:14 AM**

You have to wonder about Porter's longer range expansion plans for Atlantic Canada given the money they are putting into YHU. A domestic hub with an annual passenger capacity of 4 million is fairly significant. I suspect they are planning for a fair number of those passengers to come from Atlantic Canada. It could well be where you transfer from a Q400 to an E195 for points west.

https://www.aviationpros.com/airport...pansion-at-yhu

We may see some pre-emptive moves by AC to defend their east coast market share before Porter's YHU terminal opens next year