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Old Posted Feb 3, 2024, 3:52 AM
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Dan Fumano: 'A mystery' in the Village, as valuations of old Vancouver buildings — not land — skyrockets
While the land under Kerrisdale Cameras has decreased in value in recent years, the value of its 96-year-old building has just seen a 539 per cent year-over-year increase

Published Feb 02, 2024 • Last updated 2 hours ago • 6 minute read

Usually land gets more valuable over time, while the buildings on it get less valuable.

In at least one Vancouver neighbourhood, the opposite seems to be happening, and Linda Hudson is perplexed.

Hudson is the third generation of her family to run Kerrisdale Cameras. The building, which her family owns, has been a fixture on West 41st Avenue in Kerrisdale Village since 1961.

Most people would be happy if they owned an asset whose value soared by 500 per cent year-over-year. Unfortunately for Hudson, this is not a hot stock or valuable work of art or something she can easily sell.

The only tangible thing she will gain from her asset’s suddenly skyrocketing value is a higher property tax bill.

B.C. Assessment listings show her property’s building — a little 1½-storey 96-year-old building with a street-level storefront and an office upstairs — was appraised at $155,000 last year and $991,000 this year. That’s a 539 per cent increase.

Hudson has appealed the assessment with the help of Paul Sullivan, a principal and regional leader at Ryan, a tax services and software provider.

In Vancouver, where a hot property market and soaring property taxes are often blamed for killing businesses, a “land assessment averaging” program has been in place since 2015, providing temporary tax relief for “hot” properties when land values sharply increase.

But the land-averaging program will provide no relief to Kerrisdale Cameras, Sullivan said, because it’s the building value that’s increased, not the land. There is no “building assessment averaging” program.

The property’s land value fell about 35 per cent over five years — to $3.5 million this year from $5.3 million in 2019 — but the building value skyrocketed by 14,000 per cent over the same time, jumping to to $991,000 from $6,800.

The appeal will hear arguments around complicated concepts, Sullivan said. Basically he will argue that B.C. Assessment made errors in their calculation of the market rent for the Kerrisdale Cameras property and its capitalization rate. The capitalization rate, or cap rate, is used to estimate an investor’s potential rate of return on real estate. Generally, the higher the cap rate, the greater the risk and return.

“They’re saying the economic contribution of the building has dramatically increased because of their opinion of rents and cap rates. To which, I say, they’re wrong,” Sullivan said.

Sullivan, who has spent 32 years handling property assessment appeals, said he has occasionally seen year-over-year increases in building value assessments over his career, but, “We usually see things move uniformly.”

Some other shops in Kerrisdale Village have also had the assessed value of their little old buildings soar this year. B.C. Assessment records show the butcher shop across the street had its building value more than double in a year, while the land value fell. It also happened with the building down the block housing a small shoe store — one of the neighbourhood’s oldest businesses — as well as a dessert shop and luggage seller.

Sullivan’s firm is handling thousands of appeals this year — a 50 per cent increase over last year — and they are seeing unusual spikes in some industrial property assessments in places like Burnaby, Langley, Surrey, and Richmond, he said.

But he is not aware of other commercial districts where properties like the ones in Kerrisdale are facing huge hikes in assessed building value. He’s not hearing about that phenomenon on Vancouver’s west or east side, or along shopping streets in other cities.

“It’s unusual to see small pockets outside of the normal change in value, which upsets tax distribution among the commercial taxpayers,” Sullivan said. “It’s a mystery as to why they think the commercial environment is so much stronger than everywhere else. It’s absolutely a mystery.”

Assessing properties is complex, but officials say the process is applied the same way throughout B.C.

One key thing that affects tax bills is how a property’s assessment changes relative to others in the same category in its jurisdiction. If your residential property’s value increases by 50 per cent, and every other residential property in your city increases by 75 per cent, then your property taxes should go down. If your commercial property’s value is stable while others in the same category sink, then your taxes could go up.

The property tax hikes facing some of these Kerrisdale business owners could be connected to the struggling market for downtown office space, said Bryan Murao, a B.C. Assessment assessor.

Softened demand for office space has dragged down the whole commercial property category, Murao said, leading to the 7.4 per cent overall decrease in Vancouver’s commercial property values this year.

“To see a minus 7.4 per cent like that, it is a little bit unique, and I think a lot of that has to do with particular market segments in Vancouver,” Murao said.

Office towers and small neighbourhood retailers in old buildings like Kerrisdale Cameras fall into the same property category, Class 6 commercial properties. That means that if the office market is declining at the same time the market shows those little shops are holding their value, that puts upward pressure on the retailers’ property taxes.

“You’ve got a lot of office buildings in Vancouver, and we know the office market has not been good, that drags down your Class 6 commercial average. And the retail market is doing OK still, despite recent challenges in the brick-and-mortar market. You see that natural tax burden shift, that’s just the nature of having all those property types together in Class 6.”

Murao said that brd on 2023 market activity in and around Kerrisdale, B.C. Assessment determined: “There’s more economic life to those buildings than we necessarily thought there was.”

However, Murao acknowledged: “It’s not really a benefit necessarily to the property owner.”

Sullivan estimates that if the assessment stands, Hudson’s property tax bill could increase by more than $13,000 — from an annual bill of around $36,000 to more than $49,000. Depending on the camera shop’s profit margins, Sullivan estimates itp might need to do hundreds of thousands of dollars of new revenue just to cover the increased property tax bill, before seeing a penny of profit.

Derek Holloway, who worked at B.C. Assessment for 28 years before retiring as a senior appraiser in 2016, still handles some assessment appeals, but has no involvement in the Kerrisdale Cameras matter.

undefinedd on his initial review of the file, though, Holloway said: “All I can do is laugh — yes, there’s holding income until redevelopment from the existing building, but it does not reflect close to a million dollars of building value. Probably a small fraction of that is appropriate.”

“The land value is likely the vast majority of the total value, so the clumsy building value increase was ill-advised,” Holloway said. “This is just very poor assessing, in my opinion. And you can quote me on that.”
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Main Alley M5 got approved?

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Yes the city approved unanimously. They mentioned shared outdoor spaces being important because there are potential envelope issues with balcconies for this type of construction so this reduces the total number.
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Skeena Terrace rezoning goes to council next week

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/2108-and-2408-cassiar-st
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Demolition happened back in May but they're just starting the foundation work.

https://www.theyardrailtown.com/site-progress/
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Anyone know what's going on with The Onyx? It's been sitting there empty for a while now

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Anyone know what's going on with The Onyx? It's been sitting there empty for a while now
It has been called False Creek Station since GWL bought the site over three years ago. It's been offered for lease since then. It's 270,000 SF, so probably too big to build on spec. Daily Hive reported it being started in 2022, but that was wrong, there's been no excavation or construction yet.
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It has been called False Creek Station since GWL bought the site over three years ago. It's been offered for lease since then. It's 270,000 SF, so probably too big to build on spec. Daily Hive reported it being started in 2022, but that was wrong, there's been no excavation or construction yet.
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It's quite close to the guideway as well. Video of the project:

https://www.facebook.com/wigwamvisual/po...mhDCJHAFuSXkRiAzsvMtRq6bWtvvgVMvWczpaRml
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Hi all, below my photos taken today.
103 W 6th Ave, per CBRE available in Q2 2024


Abcellera @ 110 4th W Ave


Ofiswerks, 234 W 3rd Ave, website says complete December 2023, but it's not complete yet
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Ofiswerks, 234 W 3rd Ave, website says complete December 2023, but it's not complete yet
There's a few tenant improvement permits issued so I guess people will move in this summer.
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Welcome and thanks for the updates.
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177 W Pender, today
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"This project aligns with the prescriptions of the Broadway Plan, which permits buildings up to 35 storeys tall within the “MCDD” sub-area surrounding the subway station on the north side of Great Northern Way." So you can thank Gregor Robertson, and the Vision Council for initiating that plan in June 2018, and then Kennedy Stewart and the last Council for moving the Plan forward during their term. ABC didn't exist when the plan was being developed.
I disagree.

Greg Robertson
Greg Robertson knew his party was finished and his days in office numbered, and hence initiated a couple of end-of-administration plans, including the Oakridge Town Centre in the hopes of garnering more votes. However, these plans should have been implemented at the beginning of his tenure, and they were very watered down compared to what we have now. Greg's tenure ended in 2018, way before the Broadway Plan guiding principles began in March 2019.

Kennedy Stewart
The plan was finally approved on June 22, 2022, and again under Kennedy Stewart at the end of his tenure. If he were serious about this, it should have been fast-tracked and approved at the beginning of his term. Kennedy pretty much did nothing to make this city better and dragged the process wasting 4 years. His Council likely approved it knowing that they were doomed.

Ken Sim
I have confidence that ABC can do this much better than his predecessors. Even though the Broadway Plan was approved end of Kennedy's term in office, I can see Ken Sim and team are trying to increase the density and relax some of the process. What is better, they start the process first month in office.
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I disagree.

Greg Robertson
Greg's tenure ended in 2018, way before the Broadway Plan guiding principles began in March 2019.

Kennedy Stewart
... it should have been fast-tracked and approved at the beginning of his term. Kennedy pretty much did nothing to make this city better and dragged the process wasting 4 years. His Council likely approved it knowing that they were doomed.

Ken Sim
I have confidence that ABC can do this much better than his predecessors. Even though the Broadway Plan was approved end of Kennedy's term in office, I can see Ken Sim and team are trying to increase the density and relax some of the process. What is better, they start the process first month in office.
On Gregor:
I think Changing was referring to the False Creek Flats Plan, but I'll let them respond in detail. Cambie Plan was a disaster - agreed.

On Kennedy:
He did not "have a council" and the public opposition has quite large at the time to Broadway-scale densities. The reason Broadway (and a lot of other housing policies in his term) got dragged out was due to TEAM / NPA / ABC councilors (and a certain Green councilor) delaying and getting Staff to do more revisions. Yes this happened a lot and drove rental developers crazy. Many components of the Broadway Plan were implemented and phased in during his time thanks to almost full council support (ABC included). Planning for Broadway took 3 years alongside the City Plan, and then in 2023 applications were made. Comparing that to Jericho or Cambie this is lightening speed.

On Ken:
I have not heard of ABC councilors or from Staff there is a idea of wanting to increase densities (FSR) beyond what is in the Plan. I have not heard of them changing the towers-per-block rule or tower separation distances either. What process did they start in the first month in office? Beside the Villages area plans, I am not aware of ABC initiatives on housing to date, but I might have missed an announcement as we've been quite busy with all the other big changes (Broadway / the Province).
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I think Broadway would have been implemented a year earlier ("on schedule") if it wasn't for COVID.
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I disagree.
of course you do. It's why you're here.

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Gregor's tenure ended in 2018, way before the Broadway Plan guiding principles began in March 2019.
The Broadway Plan webpage shows the timeline. "City Council approves Terms of Reference for Broadway Planning Program. June 2018". So the Vision led City Council had authorised the creation of a plan, and for staff to report on a Terms of Reference. The background phase ran from June 2018 to late 2018, and involved forming planning team, background research, creating an engagement strategy, and preparing the planning program. The decision to build the Broadway line to Arbutus was only confirmed in September 2018 and the station locations were only finalized in September 2019.

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Kennedy Stewart
The plan was finally approved on June 22, 2022, and again under Kennedy Stewart at the end of his tenure. If he were serious about this, it should have been fast-tracked and approved at the beginning of his term. Kennedy pretty much did nothing to make this city better and dragged the process wasting 4 years.
The expectation, and initial City consultation anticipated a 2-year program. Then, as GenWhy notes, COVID slowed things down. So the Broadway Plan, and the Vancouver Plan were delayed. Nevertheless, the tower at 1477 W Broadway was approved ahead of the Broadway Plan, and so was the tower at 2538 Birch, in 2019, once the Plan was underway. (And that Council initiated a series of other initiatives for rental housing which is why housing starts in the City of Vancouver were higher last year, and rental starts significantly higher).

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I have confidence that ABC can do this much better than his predecessors. Even though the Broadway Plan was approved end of Kennedy's term in office, I can see Ken Sim and team are trying to increase the density and relax some of the process. What is better, they start the process first month in office.
All ABC promised was "it plans on supporting the city’s obligations with the Broadway Plan, specifically to increase housing density in the corridor." And in the 15 months since ABC were elected, they haven't proposed any changes to the adopted plan. So far, as far as I can tell, in those 15 months they've approved one tower rezoning. And that was last week.
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"June 2018" is definitely during Robertson's time in office; his council also laid the groundwork for the subway which catalyzed the plan in the first place.

Not a wholly solid connection, but definitely more of one than Ken Sim, who deserves as much credit for the 2010 Winter Games (i.e. none at all) as he does for increased development along Broadway.
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I didn't think ABC released any housing policy updates yet, but I guess this summer we'll see a few?

From October 2023 on the Mayor's plans:

• Explore opportunities to increase housing density by rezoning land around the “underdeveloped” SkyTrain stations, including those at Nanaimo, 29th Avenue, Renfrew and Rupert. (So far only Rupert-Renfrew which started in early 2022. Might be passed by the end of 2024)

• Review the city’s “shadow impact criteria and guidelines” for how new construction creates shadows on neighbouring buildings and spaces. (TBD)

• Increase the maximum allowable floor plate size for residential towers to unlock additional housing units. (TBD though I've heard rumbling that Staff is considering this in regards to Broadway sites impacted by viewcones)

• Consider expanding and improving the city’s “certified professional program” to reduce the time, cost and delays associated with permitting times. (Under development, but I've not heard anything yet)

• Look to harmonize and otherwise align the Vancouver building bylaw with the BC Building Code, which governs how new construction, building alterations, repairs and demolitions are completed, with the goal of building more housing faster. (TBD (?) as far as I know)

• Work with the provincial and federal governments to push for more enforcement on illegal short-term rentals. (Complete but not sure this was a city thing)
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Back in '18 when Ken Sim was running on the NPA ticket, he suggested that City Hall should have more consultation with neighbourhood NIMBYs, and his plan to increase housing was to cut basement suites in half and clear "red tape." Okay, fine, he had to walk the party line back then... so aside from the viewcones, what's his New and Improved (TM) housing plan?
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