Public Disorder & the Decline of Vancouver's Livability

[whatnext]

Nice, a brazen daylight shooting on one of downtown's busiest streets. Though as the VPD says, likely the bridge and tunnel crowd.

Downtown targeted daylight shooting leaves Vancouverites shaken
By Angela Bower
Posted April 1, 2024 7:21 am. Last Updated April 1, 2024 7:23 am.

A daylight shooting in Vancouver’s Downtown core Saturday evening has left people in the area shaken.

The shooting happened around 5:40 p.m. on Robson Street near Richards Street. The Vancouver Police Department (VPD) believes the shooting was targeted, however, the incident has left locals concerned for their safety.

“Bang, bang, bang — it was seven to 10 times,” one person told CityNews.

“I was literally shivering and I was about to cry,” another said.

Video circulating on social media shows two gunmen coming up to a black SUV before firing directly at the vehicle.

The SUV speeds up and crashes into a white Audi before one person jumps out and runs away. One shooter continues to unload at what appears to be a remaining occupant.....

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/0...locals-shaken/

[jollyburger]

I wonder if there's any gangsters still living in the Telus Garden condos.. You have to watch the video to see how bad it was with hitman wannabes..

[s211]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

I wonder if there's any gangsters still living in the Telus Garden condos.. You have to watch the video to see how bad it was with hitman wannabes..

I've been on a couple of condo boards and have had to deal with gangs in the buildings. We even had undercover cops in our building monitoring a building across the street. I've also be told by realtors that many suites were acquired by known gang members and then flipped down the road, sometimes at prices that made no market sense.

I fear it's more common than would be general public knowledge.

[WarrenC12]

Originally Posted by s211

I've been on a couple of condo boards and have had to deal with gangs in the buildings. We even had undercover cops in our building monitoring a building across the street. I've also be told by realtors that many suites were acquired by known gang members and then flipped down the road, sometimes at prices that made no market sense.

I fear it's more common than would be general public knowledge.

Well it's only the idiots that cause a scene too.

We had a swat team bust down somebody's door and haul him away. He was back the next day.

I've heard escorts can be a problem too.

[whatnext]

Gee, is anyone surprised that two pit bulls we found (injured unfortunately) in the car that was shot at during the targetted shooting on Robson Street?

https://www.vancouverisawesome.com/l...g-2024-8547899

[jollyburger]

More surprised that they weren't armed.

[Zepfancouver]

Originally Posted by jollyburger

More surprised that they weren't armed.

Sorry for my lol there (maybe was in bad taste) but could not help myself.

[whatnext]

Meanwhile just after the overdose site in Yaletown closes thanks to the street disorder it VCH announces it is going to relocate it to the old Bosmans Motel on Howe. How the f**k is that going to be any better? Because there's no neighbours directly across the street? And bringing a drug use site into housing for those mental health issues?! Does VCH want to make sure everyone there is a drug user?

[Zepfancouver]

Originally Posted by whatnext

...How the f**k is that going to be any better?...

...My apologies again, lol.
With all the insanity, craziness and lawlessness, we and future generations are now living in a forever unmanageable society.
Tolerance is our (mine anyway) only solace.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

Meanwhile just after the overdose site in Yaletown closes thanks to the street disorder it VCH announces it is going to relocate it to the old Bosmans Motel on Howe. How the f**k is that going to be any better? Because there's no neighbours directly across the street? And bringing a drug use site into housing for those mental health issues?! Does VCH want to make sure everyone there is a drug user?

It isn't called Bosman's Hotel any more, it's been Metson Rooms & Metson Shelter for around ten years. It isn't primarily for those with mental health issues any more - that was a specific program that ran for four years and ended ten years ago. In those days it was run by PHS and these days it's Community Builders, who provide meals on site and have several programs to support former homeless in a number of buildings that they manage.

Where would you prefer the service to operate? (It's not an overdose site, it's the Thomas Donaghy Overdose Prevention Site. Subtle difference. 'According to VCH, more than 200 overdoses were reversed at the OPS on 1101 Seymour Street in the three-year period it was in service').

[whatnext]

So who’s living there now? Let’s all remember VCH moved this site to Yaletown after one of their facilities, St. Paul’s, wanted it out. A place staffed with medical professionals. No VCH thinks a housing site for the vulnerable is more appropriate location? Unbelievable.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

So who’s living there now? Let’s all remember VCH moved this site to Yaletown after one of their facilities, St. Paul’s, wanted it out. A place staffed with medical professionals. No VCH thinks a housing site for the vulnerable is more appropriate location? Unbelievable.

St Paul's isn't run by VCH, it's run by Providence Healthcare. The outdoor overdose prevention site that ran in the parking lot at at St Paul's was a VCH / Raincity facility. It moved to Yaletown to a newly available indoor space in 2021, and has now moved again because the lease for the City owned space wasn't continued. Council members said the facility wasn't big enough, and only catered to users injecting drugs, while these days a majority smoke them. The new facility on Howe has facilities for users who inject, and those who inhale. VCH now have 10 overdose prevention facilities in the DTES as well.

You're wrong about St Paul's; they opened an overdose prevention site of their own around the time that the new Yaletown facility opened.

[Zepfancouver]

This morning was woken by this, trying to steel a patio heater...
The heater was finally pickup at around 8 am.


https://makeagif.com/i/mNQLy8



No worries for him, stealing is no longer a crime...Serenity now, serenity now
Even murder is tolerable https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2024/0...attack-senior/ this made my blood boil...Serenity now! Serenity now!

[logan5]

I blame the victim here. Gotta chain that shit up.

[jollyburger]

For the second time in five days, gunfire has erupted in downtown Vancouver.

According to Vancouver Police Department spokesperson Sgt. Steve Addison, police were called to Homer Street and West Pender Street at 7:50 p.m. Wednesday night with reports of shots being fired.

Article content
“When police arrived, they discovered a person with serious injuries,” Addison said.

The victim has been taken to hospital and no arrests have been made.

“Police investigators will remain in the area for several hours, and traffic may be disrupted.”

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/...seriously-hurt

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Changing City

St Paul's isn't run by VCH, it's run by Providence Healthcare. The outdoor overdose prevention site that ran in the parking lot at at St Paul's was a VCH / Raincity facility. It moved to Yaletown to a newly available indoor space in 2021, and has now moved again because the lease for the City owned space wasn't continued. Council members said the facility wasn't big enough, and only catered to users injecting drugs, while these days a majority smoke them. The new facility on Howe has facilities for users who inject, and those who inhale. VCH now have 10 overdose prevention facilities in the DTES as well.

You're wrong about St Paul's; they opened an overdose prevention site of their own around the time that the new Yaletown facility opened.

If there's one at St. Paul's already then they don't need a new one a couple blocks away. As zepfvancouevr's photo shows, junkies are quite capable of making the effort to walk to their drug den.

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by whatnext

If there's one at St. Paul's already then they don't need a new one a couple blocks away. As zepfvancouevr's photo shows, junkies are quite capable of making the effort to walk to their drug den.

Drug dens are so 19th century. Those were where people died using drugs. This is an attempt to prevent that. The St Paul's facility is for users who inject. The Howe St facility also supervises smoking, which is most users now get their hit.

[whatnext]

Originally Posted by Changing City

Drug dens are so 19th century. Those were where people died using drugs. This is an attempt to prevent that. The St Paul's facility is for users who inject. The Howe St facility also supervises smoking, which is most users now get their hit.

Imagine if China had sanctioned and encouraged opium dens, which is basically the current low point David Eby and the NDP have brought us to.

[Vin]

Maybe this is nothing but a ploy to kill off more dumb folks. If that's the case, they are very successful indeed.

[Vin]

I really feel sorry for those living and conducting businesses in the Howe Street neighbourhood after the relocation.

Controversial overdose prevention site in downtown Vancouver relocated
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/thom...reet-vancouver

I can see Howe Street and the laneway brutalized with faeces, urine, graffiti, needles and general filth in the near future. Businesses will also vacate around the new facility.
I also find this sickening:
While the new OPS location is accessed from Howe Street, it does not have street frontage, unlike the previous location, which VHS states will provide “clients and residents increased privacy.”

Make them go cold turkey already!


On the other hand, it's a yay for those living around the Seymour area, especially surrounding Emily Barnes Park. Walked by there yesterday and it was so clean after the closure of the injection site. Perhaps the CRU store across the street from the community centre will finally find a new buyer after being listed on sale for years.