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Old Posted Mar 22, 2008, 5:10 PM
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the article says a Colonial bank building. There's no building on the Frank Leu site, and the Frank Leu site is still owned by the city.

Colonial owns the black buildings on Commerce, that are 'sale pending', but I don't think either of those locations would be good for a hotel.
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Word on the street is that Hyatt Place is coming to the Colonial Building. Hyatt Place is the new middle of the road Hyatt concept also coming to B'Ham. I also heard that if it is Hyatt or Hilton, it will be their middle level hotel. That is probably a good thing. I think it would be difficult to have two high profile hotels to fill for the size conventions that come to a mid size city. We will have four levels of service. Four hotels in the downtown Gump - GREAT NEWS! Filling the existing building really goes along with smart growth - YEA!
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2008, 7:27 PM
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The building on the site of the old Exchange Hotel is not owned by Colonial. They sold it to a firm out of New England a few years back. I went on-line and looked at other Hyatt Place developments and they all look like suburban motels....with parking in front, etc., not appropriate for this downtown location.
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Old Posted Mar 23, 2008, 9:22 PM
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The building on the site of the old Exchange Hotel is not owned by Colonial. They sold it to a firm out of New England a few years back. I went on-line and looked at other Hyatt Place developments and they all look like suburban motels....with parking in front, etc., not appropriate for this downtown location.
The article says 'a former Colonial Bank Building'.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2008, 12:57 AM
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the plot thickens......it also says "half a block from the renassaince" (I do not think I spelled that right).
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Sparks is dead right about this project. This is an issue the state must not ignore any longer.

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March 23, 2008

Sparks campaigns for Garrett Coliseum upgrade

By Jill Nolin
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State Agriculture Commissioner Ron Sparks turns a knob on the sink and clear water pours from the faucet onto his hand.

"It usually comes out black for a while," Sparks said as he stood in one of the main restrooms at Garrett Coliseum on Federal Drive.

Sparks, in his second term, makes his agenda clear -- he intends to restore glory to a structure that once garnered international acclaim but is now, he says, bleeding to death from lack of support.

He considers the project to be a priority for his tenure in office and a critical component of economic development for not just Montgomery, but the state.

But it's an ambitious four-phase project that comes with a big price tag. The cost: $85 million to $100 million. The payoff: the return of Garrett Coliseum as the hub of agricultural activity for Alabama.

Sparks sees an expanded and improved coliseum and agriculture center as a perfect complement for the Capital City's new convention center.

"Our vision is huge, but it's not unrealistic," Sparks said. "It's within our grasp."

A previous life


Construction on Garrett Coliseum, then the State Coliseum, began in 1949. Four years later, the money for the $1.5 million project ran out.

Several things were left unfinished, such as a bathroom on an upper level that has toilets but no connection to the sewage disposal system.

Anxious exhibitors started shows as soon as the building's shell was finished in 1951, and the coliseum attracted national and international attention.

The coliseum has seen the likes of singing legends Hank Williams Sr., Elvis, Lionel Richie and the Commodores, Prince, Elton John and George Strait.

And the grounds have played host to everything from rodeos to horse shows. It is also the location for the Alabama National Fair, which brings in more than 200,000 visitors each year.

Garrett Coliseum, though, has slipped into disrepair, said Sparks. State funding has dwindled and fewer and fewer events are scheduled each year.

Big-name performers don't want to come to the coliseum anymore because of its poor acoustics and lack of air conditioning. And the deteriorating livestock areas make it hard to attract -- or to keep, in many cases -- livestock shows.

The coliseum has a 2007-08 budget of $1.16 million. The state contributes about $630,000, about $200,000 less than a decade ago. The coliseum generates the rest from such things as parking fees, concessions and building and livestock stall rentals.

Coliseum managers -- director Bill Johnson and his assistant, Ed Wesson -- use the money to fix immediate safety issues, such as broken steps and jagged wood in the horse stables.

The building's leaky roof has been a problem for years. One event, according to Johnson, had to be stopped while officials moved visitors out of a section that had pools of rainwater.

Workers patched the leaks, but Johnson calls the coliseum "patched out."

"This grand ol' facility is crying out for help," Johnson said.

The men want help from anyone who will give it.

"We have an awful lot of people who have grown up with this place and want to see it put back," Johnson said.

A vision on paper


A master plan is in place -- done last year by the architectural firm Goodwyn, Mills and Cawood Inc. for $76,000 -- and includes conceptual drawings and an itemized list of the coliseum's needs, which range from a new roof, plumbing and electrical systems to upgrades for disabled visitors.

"You could spend $10 million out here in a hurry and it would look like it did the day you started," Sparks said, referring to a repaving project and 23-year-old roof intended to last only 20 years. "But these are things that need to be done."

The basic needs include:


Fire sprinkler system and fire pump to meet code.


Heating and air-conditioning systems throughout building.


Updated lighting and sound systems.


New entrance lobbies with elevator access.


New concrete.


Updated interior.


New amenities for the public and performers.


New administration wing.


Better drainage and pavement repair.


New rental meeting spaces.

The plan also calls for extras:


A multipurpose event arena.


A multipurpose equine/event building.


A multipurpose livestock/event building.


A multipurpose livestock show barn with heating and air conditioning.


An update of the covered arena adjacent to Crawford Arena.


Restoration of Crawford Arena.

The first construction phase, which would not interrupt coliseum operations, calls for the new multipurpose event arena. It would have permanent earth topping, which would save the coliseum the $5,500 it spends each time dirt has to be brought in for events.

Climate controlled, the arena would have a seating capacity of 3,300, room for 260 trade show booths and a 160-foot-by-280-foot floor.

"If we do it, I hope we don't drag it out another 10, 15 years," Sparks said. "Either we are or we're not -- let's just make a commitment."

If not the state, then who?


The state owns Garrett Coliseum but doesn't have the money -- at least not now -- to return the building to its glory days.

Other government entities, though, are willing to consider helping finance the work. They've even met to talk about what Sparks believes should be a regional project. Sparks said there are a few possible ways to fund the project, one of which, he said, is through a bond issue.

There's been talk that the state retirement system would come to the rescue, but its chief executive, David Bronner, declined through his secretary to discuss the possibility. The coliseum, according to Bronner, is Sparks' project.

The city of Montgomery would contribute in-kind work but probably not any money, said Mayor Bobby Bright, who challenged the state to restore the coliseum.

Council President Charles Jinright thinks the project would be good for both the city and state economies but doesn't believe Montgomery should take the lead.

Jinright suggested Montgomery County would be a better leader because of the project's agricultural nature.

County Commission Chairman Todd Strange and Commissioner Reed Ingram both said financial support is a possibility.

"I think it's something we need to look at and invest in," Ingram said. "Anything to keep people coming to Montgomery."

The commission's counterparts in Autauga and Elmore counties, though, haven't been part of the talks, according to representatives for the county commissions.

Wetumpka hasn't been part of the talks either, according to Mayor Jo Glenn.

Prattville would like to have input in the project, said Mayor Jim Byard, adding he would be willing to ask the City Council to help fund the work.

"It certainly would benefit all of the communities, not just Montgomery," Byard said. "I certainly think it's worthy of discussion."

Millbrook Mayor Al Kelley sees the coliseum as an asset -- but one in need of a face-lift. He wasn't sure, however, what kind of support the city could provide.

"We've got our priorities here, too," he said.


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I think it would be great to start a new State Agricultural Center in north Montgomery near downtown.

Think about it...that would bring the State Farmers Market near the riverfront!

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The article says 'a former Colonial Bank Building'.
There is the Colonial Drive through "building" next to the parking lot that was the Frank Leu building. I suspect they'd need that extra bit of land for the hotel. Then it would fill in from the corner to the Chamber's parking lot.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2008, 1:09 PM
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There is the Colonial Drive through "building" next to the parking lot that was the Frank Leu building. I suspect they'd need that extra bit of land for the hotel. Then it would fill in from the corner to the Chamber's parking lot.

That building, and the matching building across the street are currently under contract as a package deal. I'd suspect that either RBC Centura or one of the local start-up banks is purchasing that property.
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2008, 1:15 PM
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Of note.

One Commerce Street's website is here, and it shows the building at ~70% occupied. IF this is the building in question, those folks will have to find new digs.... maybe digging into some of the glut of office space that we have now. Maybe if a deal can ever get finalizd for the Regions buildings, those combined could bring some life back to the plaza.... not even to mention the possibility of a state house.

I've emailed the reporter who wrote the article to see if there is clarification to be had.

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Old Posted Mar 24, 2008, 2:03 PM
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hmmm.... three posts in a row from me.... nobody else on their computers this early

The Advertiser reporter says that the buildings in question are the drive through building and the larger one across the street.

That's very interesting, because the office building across the street wouldn't be a good hotel location (limited windows)...

Maybe that means new construction on the site of the drive through.... the lot goes all the way to Lee St., giving room for a hotel and a deck.

Don't know why they'd buy the other building though......

local.live.com pics.

http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2&cp...&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=8737564&encType=1
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my source at the city has said it is the corner of madison and commerce taking up the place where the colonial bank drive thru currently stands, that means it is the old frank lew building site
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2008, 3:52 PM
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Maybe the drive through lot + the city's lot at the former Frank Leu. That's a big footprint..... I hope it's 'smart code'.


BTW, it's about time for another meeting of the New Justice Team. Anybody with a date/time/place suggestion?
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Old Posted Mar 24, 2008, 5:26 PM
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downtown restaurants only, we gotta support these folks if we want to have a vibrant city center. there are 33 restaurants in downtown so that means plenty of choices. take a look at the trolley website and post options. i have no preference.
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downtown restaurants only, we gotta support these folks if we want to have a vibrant city center. there are 33 restaurants in downtown so that means plenty of choices. take a look at the trolley website and post options. i have no preference.

http://www.mgm4lunch.com/smoothiesnthingscafe.htm

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I vote for this location as well. My preference would be for around 11:30 AM. Whoever ordered the New Justice Team membership rings, be sure to bring them!
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that works too
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I may be off this Friday, how about then?
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I'm outta town this friday, but if there's enough, go ahead.
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Interesting...

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TV show to feature Hyundai plant

March 26, 2008

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com

Montgomery’s Hyundai plant will star in a cable network production again tonight when the National Geographic Channel premiers a series called “Who Knew?” with a segment on the plant.

About two years ago the History Channel featured the plant in its “Modern Marvels” series.

Plant spokesman Robert Burns said Hyundai Motor Manufacturing Alabama’s place as the most modern auto plant in the industry makes it attractive for such documentaries.
Marshall Brain, author of the “How Stuff Works” books will host the series.

The one-hour program will air tonight at 8 p.m. with three segments, one on Hyundai, one on airbags and one on making money. The Hyundai segment is to air first, according to Burns.

-- Cosby Woodruff
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Have any of you heard about the city putting in a round-about at the corner of Ripley and Washington? They are supposed to start in resurfacing Washington in April to change it to a two way street...they will take out the redlight at Ripley and Washington then and put in the round-about.
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