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Old Posted Oct 13, 2007, 4:22 PM
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There's hardly a worldwide financial crisis...it's a US dollar crisis. The US dollar has dropped sharply in the past 5 years vs most worldwide currencies. The housing/ subprime blah-blah-blah is largely a domestic issue as well, and it is not universally gloomy throught the country. In much of the country it's more of a mild slowdown which is expected as real-estate has always been cyclical. Finally, the market for downtown luxury condos is competely different than detached suburban homes--so it's possible to be experiencing a general real estate downturn(as is the case currently in Sacramento), yet still have buyers for downtown condos. San Jose has 4 separate downtown condos under construction(20 floor range approx.), and another 1/2 dozen or so still expected to start next year.

BTW, one of the San Jose projects under cunstruction is a CIM project:Tower 88 at Central Place. While not as stunning as the original plan, imagine this project in it's place but with another 5-10 stories(San Jose's had to stop at 22 due to the airport). I'm confident that CIM will have some preliminary drawings by early next year.

Great pictures from ther builder's website:
http://www.webcor.com/complete.html?proj_id=232
In regards to the "housing/subpime bla bla," I think there is a crisis. Those involved (lenders, government) are downplaying the issue because it's embarassing, but Congress is considering bailouts for lenders and regulators (Fannie Mae, etc). That's a HUGE deal - the Federal government will probably have to give lots of money to the same lenders who've been aggressively selling bad loans (all that spam and telemarketing). The same lenders who are now harrassing millions of defaulters. That may be the quickest way to get the housing market back on it's feet, but a bailout would have farther reaching ramifications. And it is "worldwide" - Barclays Bank (UK) Landesbanks (Germany) and many other European banks have extensive US portfolios and will be part of any bailouts.

I'm not a financial expert. All I'm saying is that, at least for the next couple years, residential constuction in the US is going to be very slow. Nationwide, the residential condos being built have all been speculative. The buyers have been investors hoping to sell to underqualified buyers - theat's what's been going on in the market for years now. So, I wouldn't get too excited about any residential condo projects that aren't already under construction.

I hope I'm wrong. I really do. And it is possible that Sacramento won't be as badly affected.
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Old Posted Oct 13, 2007, 4:25 PM
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Aah! Double post.

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Well, there you go... no more wildlife or vegetation.
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 4:43 AM
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you hear any news on the site innov8, or is it the same deal for the past couple of months?
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Old Posted Nov 7, 2007, 5:13 AM
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Nothing new... I expect to hear something by spring, but will see?
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2007, 6:45 AM
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Drove by the site today and it seemed quite busy considering there still is no proposal..
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Everything is being covered up right?
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Actually, there's some interesting work being done on the north-east tower foundation. I'll bring my camera tomorrow and get some snaps from my office window...
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Everything is being covered up right?
covered up?
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2007, 11:40 PM
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enigma, I think they’re covering areas where soil might erode when it starts
to rain. The flat center area will turn into a pond since there are no pumps
to move water out of the hole... that will be a great picture
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2007, 8:08 AM
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If they are going to work on a different design, don't they need to reapply first before they can start work?
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2007, 4:19 PM
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Who said they were starting anything? Right now they are cleaning up the
site and if were lucky will see a new proposal by spring that will then have to
go through all the normal approval process.

Hopefully 2010 will be a good year for work to start if market conditions are better.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2007, 6:10 PM
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Well, there you go... no more wildlife or vegetation.
Beatles
"Fixing a Hole"

I'm fixing a hole where the rain gets in
And stops my mind from wandering
Where it will go...

I'm filling the cracks that ran through the door
And kept my mind from wandering
Where it will go...

And it really doesn't matter if I'm wrong
I'm right
Where I belong I'm right
Where I belong...
See the people standing there who disagree and never win
And wonder why they don't get in my door...
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2007, 6:11 PM
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Just as I expected, they are turning it into a park
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Even stranger is what ever the heck they're doing to the north tower foundation...





Have a good weekend y'all...

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that's where Saca buried the deposit money.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2007, 8:25 PM
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I thought they were making that the new homeless camp.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2007, 3:05 AM
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looks to me they are leveling and compacting all the earth around the piles....

maybe they will cut them down like was done on the other tower....

when you are there you can see the land is in flat segments.....((possibly sloped for drainage))

and with all the dewatering equipment gone thats a good idea......

there should be signs put up about this site......(here lies the aborted towers site) could be a long while like this
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After some snooping around I found out why they are doing all the digging
at the north/west towers side. They are currently in the process of exposing
all the piles at the site so they can seal the tops of each pile so corrosion won't
begin to rot away the rebar inside the piles. Apparently they are cutting off the
exposed rebar and then sealing each pile so corrosion won't begin. The north
towers piles are almost fully exposed now and it appears they did finish
driving piles for that tower too.

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Old Posted Nov 12, 2007, 9:06 PM
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After some snooping around I found out why they are doing all the digging
at the north/west towers side. They are currently in the process of exposing
all the piles at the site so they can seal the tops of each pile so corrosion won't
begin to rote away the rebar inside the piles. Apparently they are cutting off the
exposed rebar and then sealing each pile so corrosion won't begin. The north
towers piles are almost fully exposed now and it appears they did finish
driving piles for that tower too.


In other words we're in for a long wait...

Any word on how they intend to seal the piles...
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