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Old Posted Jan 30, 2024, 11:43 PM
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I gotta say Richards is really well done. It feels nice to walk and bike down, and traffic isn't even that bad. Turn lanes or banning turns is all that's needed IMO.
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Examples of how Vancouver gets it while Toronto continues to be the city of the bare minimum. Forget about excellence, we could at least do decent, but instead we do bare minimum.
Just goes to show how the grass isn't always greener.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2024, 12:00 AM
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Their landscaping for new condo projects are really, really bad, ngl
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2024, 12:31 AM
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Toronto's weather doesn't help the greenery either.

Maybe they have a lack of places for dogs to go pee.
In Vancouver, the trees in front of The Capitol condo on Seymour have always died due to all the dog pee.
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Just goes to show how the grass isn't always greener.
LOL , hilarious that you think there are just a couple people who have different viewpoints than you. Speaking of Richards, that redone bike lane has to be the biggest waste of money in terms of how little increased bike traffic there is after the millions blown redoing it. And most of what is there seems to be DoorDash deliveries to people who should drag their asses out to get the food themselves.
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....Speaking of Richards, that redone bike lane has to be the biggest waste of money in terms of how little increased bike traffic there is after the millions blown redoing it....
The bike lanes add to the city and the money is well spent as an investment in its future. Just because you don't see value in them doesn't mean they are a waste; quite the opposite in fact.
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The bike lanes add to the city and the money is well spent as an investment in its future. Just because you don't see value in them doesn't mean they are a waste; quite the opposite in fact.
Maybe but I never ever see anyone use it either.
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LOL , hilarious that you think there are just a couple people who have different viewpoints than you. Speaking of Richards, that redone bike lane has to be the biggest waste of money in terms of how little increased bike traffic there is after the millions blown redoing it. And most of what is there seems to be DoorDash deliveries to people who should drag their asses out to get the food themselves.
I'm sure you have data to back up your weird claims.
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Good to hear, should be an interesting construction process.
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Maybe but I never ever see anyone use it either.
This doesn't make any sense. The Haro / Smithe bike lane is quite busy, and all southbound traffic has to use the Richards lane since Haro / Smithe becomes one-way at that intersection. Next time you turn left from Richards onto Nelson, take a look at all the bikes queued to continue straight.

I also wonder how all of the cargo bikes frequently parked at Rainbow Park get their without using the lane.
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This doesn't make any sense. The Haro / Smithe bike lane is quite busy, and all southbound traffic has to use the Richards lane since Haro / Smithe becomes one-way at that intersection. Next time you turn left from Richards onto Nelson, take a look at all the bikes queued to continue straight.

I also wonder how all of the cargo bikes frequently parked at Rainbow Park get their without using the lane.
Sorry I'm usually closer to the north end of the bike lane so my reference was more on that end closer to Gastown.
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Sorry I'm usually closer to the north end of the bike lane so my reference was more on that end closer to Gastown.
I don't think it's too busy north of the Dunsmuir E-W bike lane.
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LOL , hilarious that you think there are just a couple people who have different viewpoints than you. Speaking of Richards, that redone bike lane has to be the biggest waste of money in terms of how little increased bike traffic there is after the millions blown redoing it. And most of what is there seems to be DoorDash deliveries to people who should drag their asses out to get the food themselves.
It goes beyond simply having different opinions.

It's a relentlessly antisocial focus on negative assumptions and aspersions that naturally aggravates others.
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Richards Street is a very successful example of a complete street and I'm glad it's getting its flowers.

As someone who lives nearby, the experience of walking along it is night and day compared to using Seymour. Traffic is slower, there is better landscaping and more active transportation facilities.

I lived in Toronto for a long timeand the public realm and pedestrian experience was absolutely awful. The design approach to most things was incredibly utilitarian, facilities were very narrow and substandard, visual clutter everywhere (poles, cables, streetcar tracks...), lack of seating and greenery. I also noticed how quickly improvements deteriorated due to heavy use, weather conditions, lack of maintenance and austere city maintenance services.
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Sorry I'm usually closer to the north end of the bike lane so my reference was more on that end closer to Gastown.
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I don't think it's too busy north of the Dunsmuir E-W bike lane.
It is quite busy south of Dunsmuir. There's been construction at Richards and Pender for months that has obstructed the lane, so I'd guess it'll be busier once that wraps up.
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Old Posted Jan 31, 2024, 8:46 PM
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As someone who lives nearby, the experience of walking along it is night and day compared to using Seymour. Traffic is slower, there is better landscaping and more active transportation facilities.
If you want to experience the night-and-day difference a bike lane buffer makes for the pedestrian experience, you don't need to go all the way to Seymour. Just cross to the other side of Richards.
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