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I got 3 hours sleep last night thanks to the fireworks.
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So are Calgary (& Edmonton) back to being larger than Ottawa ?
(Sorry for the tangent)

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I'm going with Winnipeg because it has more affordable grey stucco shit boxes sprouting all around the outskirts, immigrants from the Philippines, India and Ukraine. I'd prefer QC to grow in the future, when this grey aesthetic is no longer in fashion.

Although not considered one city, Kitchener Waterloo Cambridge could easily beat both cities to 1 million in Waterloo Region.
Highly unlikely.

Winnipeg has over 250,000 more people in it's metro area, and only needs 100,000 more people to reach the finish line. K-W may eventually catch Winnipeg, but I cannot see that happening in the next 25 years.
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So, where are we at now?
The Winnipeg CMA has 61.9% of the total population of Manitoba. Therefore:

1,469,358 x 0.619 = 909,533.

Winnipeg has nearly 910,000 if the population clock is accurate.
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The Winnipeg CMA has 61.9% of the total population of Manitoba. Therefore:

1,469,358 x 0.619 = 909,533.

Winnipeg has nearly 910,000 if the population clock is accurate.
In comparison, Québec City counts for 9,76% of the provincial population, which brings us around 873 000 right now.
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So are Calgary (& Edmonton) back to being larger than Ottawa ?
(Sorry for the tangent)
Yes I think both Calgary and Edmonton are ahead of Ottawa as of right now. I'd love to see an update, though.
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So are Calgary (& Edmonton) back to being larger than Ottawa ?
(Sorry for the tangent)
I was today years old when I learned Ottawa is comparable (if not bigger) than Calgary and Edmonton. I've always thought of those two as being substantially bigger.
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I was today years old when I learned Ottawa is comparable (if not bigger) than Calgary and Edmonton. I've always thought of those two as being substantially bigger.
Even here, few people are aware of this.
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Even here, few people are aware of this.
You think that in Ottawa most people think Calgary and Edmonton are a lot bigger than Ottawa?

I think more people are largely quite clueless.
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So are Calgary (& Edmonton) back to being larger than Ottawa ?
(Sorry for the tangent)
Thanks!
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Old Posted Nov 22, 2023, 5:04 PM
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I was today years old when I learned Ottawa is comparable (if not bigger) than Calgary and Edmonton. I've always thought of those two as being substantially bigger.
You never thought Ottawa was at the same level of population? This guy needs to come for a visit!

Back on topic - Winnipeg is sort of stepping up their game with making the south perimeter a freeway, meanwhile Quebec has multiple freeways.
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QC has perhaps the most freeway miles per capita of any urban region in Canada, and probably more than many comparable American cities.

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Qu...tcDI?entry=ttu
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You never thought Ottawa was at the same level of population? This guy needs to come for a visit!

Back on topic - Winnipeg is sort of stepping up their game with making the south perimeter a freeway, meanwhile Quebec has multiple freeways.
To date, Winnipeg's freeway conversion of the south perimeter has been the current replacement of one intersection into an interchange! One; that's it! Unlike Edmonton which has clear timelines in place for its conversion of the Yellowhead Trail into a freeway.

https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_pla...way-conversion
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Ottawa and Calgary keep switching places while Edmonton lags behind ever so slightly. As of the 2021 census, Ottawa's ahead of both. Who knows how it stands today.

Talking Metro of course. City proper, Calgary has been far ahead of Ottawa for a while. Edmonton was a few thousand behind Ottawa in 2021. Also. 2021 census, Ottawa and Edmonton metros had grown 7.5%, while Calgary lags a bit at 5.3%.

The three cities will remain neck and neck for a while.

Back on topic, Quebec City needs an NHL team to reach a million. That's what gives Winnipeg the edge. Good thing the CAQ is working hard on that!
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Back on topic, Quebec City needs an NHL team to reach a million. That's what gives Winnipeg the edge. Good thing the CAQ is working hard on that!
LA will be coming to QC.. meanwhile my kids are at home because money.
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Ottawa and Calgary keep switching places while Edmonton lags behind ever so slightly. As of the 2021 census, Ottawa's ahead of both. Who knows how it stands today.

Talking Metro of course. City proper, Calgary has been far ahead of Ottawa for a while. Edmonton was a few thousand behind Ottawa in 2021. Also. 2021 census, Ottawa and Edmonton metros had grown 7.5%, while Calgary lags a bit at 5.3%.

The three cities will remain neck and neck for a while.

Back on topic, Quebec City needs an NHL team to reach a million. That's what gives Winnipeg the edge. Good thing the CAQ is working hard on that!
It seems to be more of a race between Edmonton and Ottawa-Gatineau for the title of 5th largest CMA right now, as Calgary has pulled ahead by just under 100,000 based on the July 1, 2022 estimates.

With the continued inter-provincial migration to Alberta due to more affordable housing, which is now moreso in Edmonton than Calgary, I can see Edmonton maintaining that lead over Ottawa-Gatineau into the next Federal Census period. Unsure whether it could catch Calgary, but you never know.
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Most people in Ottawa-Gatineau, if you asked them, would probably say that Calgary is bigger than Ottawa-Gatineau.

Part of it, I think, is exactly in Ottawa-Gatineau's name: it's Ottawa, and it's Gatineau. The two cities are integrated as an economic unit but culturally/socially are pretty separate from each other. So often, from an Ottawa point of view, Gatineau doesn't really "feel" like part of the city. If you take just the Ontario portion of Ottawa-Gatineau, Calgary and Edmonton are both quite a bit larger.
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Most people in Ottawa-Gatineau, if you asked them, would probably say that Calgary is bigger than Ottawa-Gatineau.

Part of it, I think, is exactly in Ottawa-Gatineau's name: it's Ottawa, and it's Gatineau. The two cities are integrated as an economic unit but culturally/socially are pretty separate from each other. So often, from an Ottawa point of view, Gatineau doesn't really "feel" like part of the city. If you take just the Ontario portion of Ottawa-Gatineau, Calgary and Edmonton are both quite a bit larger.
I think even though most people in Ottawa know it's bigger than Quebec City, most would assume they are closer in size than they actually are.

Especially if you include Gatineau.
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Most people in Ottawa-Gatineau, if you asked them, would probably say that Calgary is bigger than Ottawa-Gatineau.

Part of it, I think, is exactly in Ottawa-Gatineau's name: it's Ottawa, and it's Gatineau. The two cities are integrated as an economic unit but culturally/socially are pretty separate from each other. So often, from an Ottawa point of view, Gatineau doesn't really "feel" like part of the city. If you take just the Ontario portion of Ottawa-Gatineau, Calgary and Edmonton are both quite a bit larger.
I just spent 3 days there visiting my daughter who attends uOttawa. I booked a room at the Chateau Cartier (I'll just call it Chateau something to people at work, so they think I stayed at Chateau Laurier lol). I haven't visited the area since I was a kid (and even then, it was just a day visit to the Ex) and had no idea how large Gatineau actually is, both geographically, as well as population. I do regret to inform that after my visit to the casino last night, my visit was a net loss to the economy of Quebec lol.
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