Highway 91 / 72nd Ave. Interchange | Completed

[osirisboy]

Lol ok well how about we wait until they are finished the project!

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by flipper316

I'm actually shocked the repainted lane lines on the bridge deck recently came with the installed cat's eyes reflectors. Pretty impressed. Can't say the same for the now closer to the barrier right shoulder. Still the same faded paint and no cat eyes on the shoulder line or reflective tape on the barrier. Oh and the rest of 91 and 91A still have sections where there are no cats eyes at all or they've been missing for months and there's no maintenance at all in that regard. Basically a standard BC highway.

they generally don't put reflectors on the shoulder lines as they are more used to delineate where you can go as a vehicle. odds are, they wont last too long as we don't use "cats eyes" really. we use a cheap plastic version.

real cats eyes look like eyes, and are metal and on springs. when driven over they push into their housing that includes a cleaning bristle. they last much longer and work much better; commonly found in Europe. ours are not "cats eyes"

[Metro-One]

There is a lot to be desired on BC roads but I will say that while not that great compared to many parts of Europe or Japan, the pavement quality and lane markings in southern BC are far superior to what I have personally witnessed across much of Canada, especially the prairies, and many parts of the US as well.

Agree on the cat eyes.

[libtard]

Originally Posted by Metro-One

There is a lot to be desired on BC roads but I will say that while not that great compared to many parts of Europe or Japan, the pavement quality and lane markings in southern BC are far superior to what I have personally witnessed across much of Canada, especially the prairies, and many parts of the US as well.

Agree on the cat eyes.

What a crock of shite. Lane markings in BC are deplorable compared to the US. Compare I-5 in Whatcom county to HWY 99 in Vancouver and the difference is night and day with the Canadian side having lane markings that are barely visible at night or in the rain.

These lane markings as well as the highway in general are pristine. I know damn well if it was a highway in Germany or japan you’d be creaming your trousers over it but because it’s I-195 in New Jersey you won’t give any credit to the condition or overall great design.

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[moosejaw]

Even South African Motorways have Raised Pavement Markers or Cats Eyes as you call them, they even have thermoplastic striping and it barely rains there.

Cant build a stairway to save their lives but roads are very good around Cape Town.

[rxp]

i was travelling the other day and they are removing the cement barriers and putting in the zipper. any idea on when the 4th sb lane will be open (assuming they would be trying to get it in place for post labour day crunch?

[officedweller]

They'd better try it out before that crunch!

[rxp]

Originally Posted by officedweller

They'd better try it out before that crunch!

lets see. seeing how they are thinking, it will make things easier....
of the 4 lanes, 1 lane for nordel, 1 for 72 and 2 straightthrou. logisitically makes sense to go from a 4lane highway to a 2 lane highway by doing this. hopefully they can put some barriers closer to the exits to prevent cuejumpers. but not withstanding that, should be good

[officedweller]

Lane configurations are here:

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/t...-bridge/design

[AForce]

looks like lanes are pretty much painted on the south end

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by officedweller

Lane configurations are here:

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/t...-bridge/design

It seems to me that the traffic information signs that are going to be installed are on the verge of obsolescence as smart phones with traffic-aware navigation are becoming more and more prevalent. Having a nav system automatically recognize the fastest route and simply direct you that way is a lot easier and safer than trying to read and interpret the signs, IMHO.

[Tvisforme]

Originally Posted by aberdeen5698

It seems to me that the traffic information signs that are going to be installed are on the verge of obsolescence as smart phones with traffic-aware navigation are becoming more and more prevalent. Having a nav system automatically recognize the fastest route and simply direct you that way is a lot easier and safer than trying to read and interpret the signs, IMHO.

I disagree - while navigation systems are very useful, especially with live updates, these signs are easy to read and quickly give you basic information to help decide on routes.

[osirisboy]

Ugh I never use navigational systems.

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

Ugh I never use navigational systems.

Yeah, I used to think this way too...

[osirisboy]

Originally Posted by Tvisforme

I disagree - while navigation systems are very useful, especially with live updates, these signs are easy to read and quickly give you basic information to help decide on routes.

Right. And who uses traffic navigational systems when they are driving their daily commute? These signs will help those people

[aberdeen5698]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

Right. And who uses traffic navigational systems when they are driving their daily commute? These signs will help those people

Traffic-aware navigation systems are great for commuting. They give you a real-time readout of your expected time of arrival, taking congestion into account, and they show you which streets are congested and which aren't. I've seen Highway 1 northbound at a standstill all the way back to Kensington while streets like Willingdon, Boundary Road, Gilmore, Hastings etc. are essentially clear. A navigation system can save you a lot of time in conditions like that. And even when you can't detour it gives you a lot of peace of mind to know that the lineup ends right around the next corner rather than extending for 10km in front of you.

Signs are great, but I've now discovered the benefits of nav systems. I bring up the nav screen whenever I drive, it doesn't matter whether I know the route or not. And I usually tell it my destination so I have good info on my ETA - it reduces my stress level and gives me a more relaxed drive. I honestly think it helps to make me a safer driver. I'll never go back to guessing again.

[osirisboy]

I've tried it and hated it. It's very aggravating. And every time I have used it they have been way off on my eta and horrible for accounting for congestion. I'll never go back to using one.

But anyways. The point is those road signs are not obsolete lol

[VancouverOfTheFuture]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

But anyways. The point is those road signs are not obsolete lol

agreed, they are not and will not be for a long while. they can also be used for other, non-traffic related things as well. that can be good in a disaster and things like that.

i have also found my GPS traffic does not seem all that accurate at all. it has been solid red when i am moving at speed limits, or green when i am crawling along. i pretty much ignore it.

[cabotp]

Originally Posted by osirisboy

I've tried it and hated it. It's very aggravating. And every time I have used it they have been way off on my eta and horrible for accounting for congestion. I'll never go back to using one.

But anyways. The point is those road signs are not obsolete lol

I'm curious as to what Nav system you are using.

I find the Nav systems that are built into vehicles are useless for giving ETA. Because they don't have live traffic data. So unless your builtin Nav system is connecting to the Internet while you drive. Then the ETA is pointless.

I use google maps and always use it even if I know the route. I've never had it off by more than 5 minutes. But the only reason it works is because it is constantly getting live traffic data from everyone else.

[osirisboy]

What?! I find google maps even worse! Biggest thing seems to be (for me at least) underestimating traffic congestion for crossing the tunnel or iron workers as examples. Always way off