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Old Posted May 27, 2024, 7:03 PM
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The new green space will still not be visible from Somerset and Preston, the association says.
Seriously?
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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 1:47 AM
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And the Parliament will still not be visible from Somerset and Preston.

>> Oh the humanity!
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Old Posted May 28, 2024, 9:28 PM
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Such strange complaints. The new park wouldn't be visible from Preston and Somerset anyway, because Plante Bath!

This is how you separate people with legitimate complaints from NIMBYs.
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Old Posted May 31, 2024, 1:38 PM
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The battle over Ottawa's Plouffe Park may finally be nearing an end
Far from perfect, the new design for the 1010 Somerset development offers a feasible home for a French-language school and saves vital green space.

Bruce Deachman, Ottawa Citizen
Published May 31, 2024 • Last updated 3 hours ago • 4 minute read


A parent of a student at Louise-Arbour elementary school said he didn’t have time to speak with me this week, so I didn’t ask him his name. But before hurrying off with his daughter, he described the past 12 months as “a waste of a year.”

I can understand his exasperation. Parents at the overcrowded and decaying French-language public school on Beech Street have spent years asking for a much-needed new school, and when it seemed last year that they might finally get one — on Plouffe Park, as part of the city’s 1010 Somerset development — residents in that neighbourhood fought against it as they rallied to preserve the century-old park.

In response, city planners have changed things up, instead proposing to situate the school on green space immediately west and adjacent to Plouffe Park. For the frustrated father, the conflict simply added another futile year to the already-long wait for a decent school.

But it wasn’t a wasted year. The Save Plouffe Park campaign, as well as other efforts by community members to have their voices heard regarding the development, saw important concessions.

The save-the-park group didn’t get everything it wanted. The development — which proposes not only the new school, but also a new daycare; housing, both below and at market-rate; a three-storey recreation and cultural facility, with gymnasia; and roughly a hectare that will be used for a public sports field and/or passive parkland — is simply too complex to make everyone happy.

Even the doubling or so of available parkland won’t do much to address the needs of a neighbourhood already starved for green space and undergoing intensification that will add thousands of new residents in the next few years. Green is the new gold in Ottawa’s urban areas. You could raze the Plant Recreation Centre, the former Department of Public Works building at 1010 Somerset and the Indian Express restaurant and Buddhist temple in between (the latter two are not going anywhere, by the way), turn it all into parkland, and there still wouldn’t be enough green space. This is an unfortunate reality of inner-city intensification.

But the added greenery now proposed is more than currently exists, and better than the barbed wire-enclosed weeds, dumpsters, discarded mattresses, soiled couches, private surface parking and shipping/storage containers that litter the western portion of the property.

There are numerous details still to be finalized, and the development will require Official Plan amendments, leaving room for some changes, but not many.

For example, making the westernmost part of the park more visible and accessible from Somerset Street, one of the changes Catherine Boucher, president of the Dalhousie Community Association (DCA), says her organization would like to see, is probably more easily done than, say, moving the mid-rise tower that will provide 300 residential units — half “affordable,” a requirement of the city getting the property cheap from the federal government in the first place — to the top of the rec/cultural centre. That, according to Kevin Wherry, manager of Parks and Facilities Planning, is not something the city is considering.

The DCA also wants to eliminate the proposed one-way school-bus lane running from Somerset to Oak Street, instead favouring student drop-offs and pick-ups directly on Oak Street, which the plan designates for short-term parking and drop-off. Maybe this is reasonable, maybe not. Louise-Arbour is currently served by only three buses.

Meanwhile, critics of the additional privately developed high-rise residential units planned for the northwestern corner of the site aren’t likely to see those disappear anytime soon, as they’ll help pay for the rec centre.

As for the school, Somerset ward Coun. Ariel Troster says there simply isn’t a suitable nearby location for it other than at the 1010 Somerset site. Judging by the rancour of a year ago, many people are simply opposed to a school being built on the site at all. But we ought to welcome schools in our neighbourhoods. They’re not simply extras, like members-only pickleball enclaves; they’re essential. And as the only French-language public K-6 school in the area, Louise-Arbour’s place should be a priority.

It’s all a lot to fit into one block, but I’m encouraged by what the city, after listening to more than 1,200 concerns from residents, has come up with. It is preserving a significant park and rebuilding an essential school. And I’m buoyed by some of the parents I spoke with, like Jacqueline Ethier, who seems to understand both sides. Ethier’s son attends Louise-Arbour, yet she opposed the original plan to build the new school on Plouffe Park because of the importance of the park to families like hers. “That was a ridiculous choice,” she said. “I was glad to see that they revised the plan, and I’ve now seen the new plan and it seems great.”

This is, after all, a community that needs parks and schools, and much more. So the last year has not been a waste. Far from it, it has served as a reminder of the importance of citizen advocacy, and that, as we continue to reshape Ottawa, we may never get everything we want, but we should keep an eye out to getting what we need.

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https://ottawacitizen.com/news/local...nearing-an-end
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The DCA also wants to eliminate the proposed one-way school-bus lane running from Somerset to Oak Street, instead favouring student drop-offs and pick-ups directly on Oak Street, which the plan designates for short-term parking and drop-off. Maybe this is reasonable, maybe not. Louise-Arbour is currently served by only three buses.
I'd wager that the people who complain about the school bus laneway would be the ones who would would complain if it was eliminated because they wouldn't want to wait behind a line of school buses on Oak Street.
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"...the Indian Express restaurant and Buddhist temple in between (the latter two are not going anywhere, by the way)"

What this mean? I thought those were to be demolished? Will they remain there or not?

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"...the Indian Express restaurant and Buddhist temple in between (the latter two are not going anywhere, by the way)"

What this mean? I thought those were to be demolished? Will they remain there or not?

They will remain, in the diagram of the area there is a cut out in the facility where the buildings are. Possibly designed that would allow the facility to expand should they ever sell.
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Based on the first concept, the plan for those buildings if the City ever purchases them, is to demolish and turn them into a plaza. At least, that's what the original concept seemed to propose.

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Backfilling some information about this project...


The proposed development is separated into two distinct wings which share a 3-storey podium base supporting two apartment buildings. The podium increases to 5-storeys to the east with a middle 4-storey component connecting the two portions of the building. The northern most building will be an 18-storey high-rise apartment building with the southern building consisting of 9-storey mid-rise apartment building. The development will consist of 338 units and approximately 372 square meters of commercial space at-grade in the northern wing of the building. A below-grade parking level would provide for a total 145 spaces (102 residential, 30 visitor and 13 commercial). The building design is a u-shape with a generous paved plaza space fronting onto the new public road. This plaza will serve many functions, including providing access to the parking garage with a door located on the southern side of the plaza, under the 9-storey potion of the development.

The development will aim to provide affordable, rental housing units (market and below market) from smaller studio and one-bedroom units for singles and couples, through to larger two- and three-bedroom units. In addition, a percentage of units will be designed to be meet barrier-free requirements, with all other units to be barrier-free visitable. This will help OCH achieve one of their objectives, allowing for people to remain in place for various stages of their life, including designing with growing families in mind, as well as units that support aging-in-place. The units are distributed as follows: 47 x Studio, 178 x 1 bedroom, 69 x 2 bedroom, 40 x 3 bedroom, 4 x 4 bedroom.


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Sounds like P1 has started construction.
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^Good to hear. They've definitely done the roads and sidewalk for this new neighborhood. so its a good sign this phased development is happening
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If this and the first CLV tower go up, in addition to Claridge Hintonbug that's already above ground, it should make a good impact along Line 2. Dow's Lake might be in a residential lull for the first time in a decade, but now it's Gladstone's turn to shine.
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I biked along the Trillium Line today and they're definitely working on that phase 1. Excited to see this massive piece of unused land finally get develop.
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I biked along the Trillium Line today and they're definitely working on that phase 1. Excited to see this massive piece of unused land finally get develop.
Drone shot from last week on the SRC thread
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Excavation and pile driving is progressing well. Photo from Aug 25
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Excavation is well underway on the site of the first phase. Its quite a deep hole at the moment
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Very happy to see this one progress. With Claridge Hitonburg and LeBreton, the skylines are slowly starting to weave together. Within a decade or two, we should have a solid "L" of towers along Line 1/3 and Line 2 from Rideau to Bayview and down to Dow's Lake. Well, a top heavy "T" with Mechanicsville, down Scott to Lincoln Fields and a little beyond that.
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This is all community housing, right?
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This is all community housing, right?
Not 100% sure. It is OCH, but they've been trying to mix deeply affordable, affordable and market housing within the same projects, to prevent the ghettoization of the old social housing projects, but also to help fund their own operations, becoming increasingly independent from City finances.
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Not 100% sure. It is OCH, but they've been trying to mix deeply affordable, affordable and market housing within the same projects, to prevent the ghettoization of the old social housing projects, but also to help fund their own operations, becoming increasingly independent from City finances.
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