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Old Posted Jan 6, 2022, 10:42 PM
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It's nice that they put the client center at the very top. That's where the deals will be made and the champagne is popped.

$26000 for the dinner sides, EJ entertainment, ect.

Point is, deals will be made up there and Dimon understands the importance of views and height to elevate new deals.
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It's nice that they put the client center at the very top. That's where the deals will be made and the champagne is popped.

$26000 for the dinner sides, EJ entertainment, ect.

Point is, deals will be made up there and Dimon understands the importance of views and height to elevate new deals.
Another idea will be to open the 56th floor for the public at least one Saturday a month, like what is done at the 61st floor of the Salesforce Tower in San Francisco.
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Another idea will be to open the 56th floor for the public at least one Saturday a month, like what is done at the 61st floor of the Salesforce Tower in San Francisco.
They're not going to do that, and there is no reason to.
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They're not going to do that, and there is no reason to.
Why is there an incentive to open the 61st floor of the Salesforce Tower in San Francisco to the public once a month?
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Why is there an incentive to open the 61st floor of the Salesforce Tower in San Francisco to the public once a month?
I think part of promoting their Ohana floors for charity. Just a totally different culture/mentality. Chicago will be getting one soon once their tower finishes up this year.

https://www.salesforce.com/company/ohana-floors/
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JPMC doesn’t need revenue from an observation deck, and they certainly don’t want the hoi polloi lingering around their tower.

This icon will be the Cathedral of Finance, and JD’s suite at the top will be like Zeus’ throne on Mt. Olympus.
What warrants having observation decks at One Vanderbilt and 30 Hudson Yards?
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What warrants having observation decks at One Vanderbilt and 30 Hudson Yards?
Those are multi-tenant buildings owned by a real estate company, not a single tenant building like this one...
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They're not going to do that, and there is no reason to.
They specifically do not want the public inside this building, for a whole host of reasons.
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Those are multi-tenant buildings owned by a real estate company, not a single tenant building like this one...
Why do multi tenant supertall buildings warrant observation decks, when the JPMORGAN Chase World Headquarters does not? In fact, observation decks are planned for Tower Fifth and the Affirmation Tower.
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Why do multi tenant supertall buildings warrant observation decks, when the JPMORGAN Chase World Headquarters does not? In fact, observation decks are planned for Tower Fifth and the Affirmation Tower.
Dude, it´s really simple. JPMorgan doesn't want an observation deck in their tower, the developers of 1 Vandy and 30 HY did.
That´s it. That´s all there is to it.
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Why do multi tenant supertall buildings warrant observation decks, when the JPMORGAN Chase World Headquarters does not? In fact, observation decks are planned for Tower Fifth and the Affirmation Tower.
Again, you answered your own question. Multi tenant buildings.
Why the obsession with observation decks?! You post this same stuff on all the sites. We don't need to see the view from every tall building...
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Why do multi tenant supertall buildings warrant observation decks, when the JPMORGAN Chase World Headquarters does not? In fact, observation decks are planned for Tower Fifth and the Affirmation Tower.
you gotta be kidding me?

if not -- it's because they own the building and afaik they chose not to add one.

maybe they will let people up in their impress the client close the deal floor once in awhile, like ohny weekend, but otherwise that would be it.

warranting has nothing to do with it.
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Old Posted Jan 8, 2022, 12:50 AM
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Why is there an incentive to open the 61st floor of the Salesforce Tower in San Francisco to the public once a month?
Neither know, nor care. But I can tell you that the Salesforce Tower isn't in Manhattan where there are multiple observation decks built and being built.

I can also tell you that the buildings here that do have observation decks have dedicated areas, usually below grade, and dedicated elevators for such things. This tower will have neither.




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Again, you answered your own question. Multi tenant buildings.
Why the obsession with observation decks?! You post this same stuff on all the sites. We don't need to see the view from every tall building...
Virtually every tall skyscraper that dwarfed everything around it in New York City that was built in the late 19th and early 20th century had a public observation deck at the top, no matter the owner. Examples included the Park Row Building, Flatiron Building, Singer Building, Metlife Tower, Woolworth Building, American International Building, Williamsburg Savings Bank Tower, Chrysler Building, RCA Building, Bank of Manhattan Building, City-Bank Farmers Trust Building, Irving Trust Building, and of course the Empire State Building.
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Virtually every tall skyscraper that dwarfed everything around it in New York City that was built in the late 19th and early 20th century had a public observation deck at the top, no matter the owner. Examples included the Park Row Building, Flatiron Building, Singer Building, Metlife Tower, Woolworth Building, American International Building, Williamsburg Savings Bank Tower, Chrysler Building, RCA Building, Bank of Manhattan Building, City-Bank Farmers Trust Building, Irving Trust Building, and of course the Empire State Building.
OMG. Move on dude
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Virtually every tall skyscraper that dwarfed everything around it in New York City that was built in the late 19th and early 20th century had a public observation deck at the top, no matter the owner. Examples included the Park Row Building, Flatiron Building, Singer Building, Metlife Tower, Woolworth Building, American International Building, Williamsburg Savings Bank Tower, Chrysler Building, RCA Building, Bank of Manhattan Building, City-Bank Farmers Trust Building, Irving Trust Building, and of course the Empire State Building.
You should build a very tall tower with an observation deck. Sounds like a great business. Keep the tradition alive!
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Old Posted Jan 9, 2022, 6:34 PM
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After seeing how huge the ESB is and the other skyscrapers in NYC in person yesterday, I could imagine how massive 270 Park will be, in terms of height and width.
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Virtually every tall skyscraper that dwarfed everything around it in New York City that was built in the late 19th and early 20th century had a public observation deck at the top, no matter the owner. Examples included the Park Row Building, Flatiron Building, Singer Building, Metlife Tower, Woolworth Building, American International Building, Williamsburg Savings Bank Tower, Chrysler Building, RCA Building, Bank of Manhattan Building, City-Bank Farmers Trust Building, Irving Trust Building, and of course the Empire State Building.
does someone really have to rattle off a list of buildings that don’t?
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After seeing how huge the ESB is and the other skyscrapers in NYC in person yesterday, I could imagine how massive 270 Park will be, in terms of height and width.

From Xing Ling. Yes, it will be massive. Though from a Skyline perspective it will be overshadowed by 175 nearby (and possibly any other massive ones that show up, there are still a lot of sites in prime position to be as tall and dominating as 175 or 1 Vandy)
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