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Originally Posted by ozone
TB those are very nice sentiments and I appreciate your optimism but quite frankly it's not as idealistic as you make it out to be. With all due repects, if someone doesn't live in the central city I don't see how they can really make a fair judgement of. Sacramento isn't close to being as 'cool' as some people here would like to think this town is. I'm a San Diego native myself. I know when people in SD worry about 'coolness' it's not like on same (low) level as here Sacramento. People in San Diego think Sacramento is a cowtown.
wb don't patronize me with that "grass is always greener on the other side" bs. I've lived in enough 'real' cities to know the difference. If anyone thinks there is a strong support for the "creative class" in this city then I think they need get out and see what's going on in the rest world. Sacramento is not a cool city. There are people who try. But too many people in this town settle for inoffensive, risk[less] crap.
Finally, I'm not expressing a bias but a reality. If you are offended by that -too damn bad. I think it's sick to call what I wrote as dribble and a tired religious/political rant. Stick to the pics. As Bono said "I don't mean to bug ya" -with the facts. I'm not arguing the merits of anyone's relgious beliefs (I don't care if you pray to little green men) -I'm talking about a serious mark on our city's reputation. The recent hate crime got national press and is a serious matter. And maybe you aren't in the downtown [you claim to support so much] enough to see the problems. I'm not calling attention to these groups because I like to. What kind of sick mind talks about having 'guts' when talking about hate crimes?
Actually I know quite a bit about relgion and would debate anyone about it. But I wasn't debating religion in my post -I guess some people in here are too dumb to know the difference.
Do you think this doesn't perpetuate Sacramento cowtown image? I'm sick of neo-cons in this forum always 'getting their digs in" about the liberals and injecting their beliefs in their posts but then hypocritically getting offended when someone counters with a different opinion. I also love it how people only take a small bit of what I say and draw all sorts of stupid conclusions by it. I think this forum may be a waste of my time.
 Now that's a rant! |
Well ozone, based on the bulk of your incoherent rants on these pages, I'm not at all surprised that this is how you see Sacramento. That's your choice - but it just confirms that you really put the "rant" into "ignorant."
Here in San Diego, we also have our share of hate crimes, we have our share of religious protests, we have our share of violence. We also have our share - as does Sacramento - of tolerant, giving, smart, ambitious and "Creative" people. Most towns are like that. Sacramento is discovering it has nothing more or less to be ashamed of than does any city in the country. It is also discovering that it has a great deal of which it can be proud. It is nowhere near where many would like it to be. It is already too far along for some. But that describes almost any city in the country.
Sacramento will never be San Diego, or San Francisco or LA. Some of that is for the better, some for the worst. But it can offer a unique experience that is completely enriching and fulfilling. It has all of the pieces in place. I don't have to live in Sacramento anymore to see that. It's too bad you can't see that and choose instead to focus rather unpleasantly on the negative. Not that long ago San Diego was also considered a backwater, particularly by people in LA and SF. Many thought of it as a pleasant little town dominated by the Navy. Now San Diego is justifiably a dynamic, diversified metropolis considered by most among the most desirable cities in the country. I won't argue with that assessment (although it's pretty tough on project managers these days). But Sacramento can and is making a similar transformation.
And please ozone - I'm not offended by anything you write. Although I would prefer we all stick to development in general and skyscrapers in particular in Sacramento. I will occasionally answer your mindless squealing and it certainly is amusing, but c'mon, you'd have to improve quite a bit to call it "dribble." I have no problem defending my positions w/o screeching to an admin. And I don't have to resort to tired U-2 lyrics to do it. If you don't want politics interjected into a thread, then don't do it. If someone wants to say a developer won't go all "Bush" or that a certain channel is the equivalent of a newspaper whose audience is "pathological tightwads, seriously senile people who think Nixon is still in the White House, losers who think that by always being on the wrong side of an issue somehow makes them more hip and righteous to boot, religious weirdos who think the devil invented government (minus the military)" then they're going to get called on it. I certainly didn't introduce those characterizations. You and your comrades did. In the interest of full disclosure: I have called Bee readers "bedwetters." I hope you can forgive me.
You know, I'd hate to see you go. But you might be right... this forum may be a waste of your time. You seem incapable of discussing any topic without turning it in to a political tirade. Just don't expect to get a free pass on it.
Now I must run - Fox News is running a special tonight on great, influential metropolitan newspapers and they're using the Sacramento Union as a prime example and then I have to listen to my download of the Rush Limbaugh show to be followed by my resubscribing to the American Standard. The bad news is you probably don't realize that's a joke.
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