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Old Posted Apr 6, 2023, 4:21 AM
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Today's North Shore News has an article about the Burrard Inlet bridges, looking at plans to protect them from vessel collisions:

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Province plans to protect North Shore bridges from ship strikes

The province is looking to shore up protection of the Lions Gate Bridge and Ironworkers Memorial Second Narrows Crossing in the event of a major ship strike.

And the province's Ministry of Transportation and Infrastructure is starting to make longer-term plans for the future of the Ironworkers.

The ministry is seeking engineering firms to design in-water structures that would halt or deflect a vessel drifting off course before it collides with the bridge foundations. A strike on one of the bridges has the potential to partially sever the North Shore from Metro Vancouver.

The impetus for the project is a change in federal engineering standards. In 2015 the province commissioned a study that found the annual risk of collapse from a vessel strike on either of the bridges was less than one in 1,000. That level of risk is considered acceptable for lesser bridges, but the newer federal standards state the risk should be less than one in 10,000 for “critical” bridges, like the Lions Gate and Ironworkers.

The Lions Gate Bridge and Ironworkers see approximately 60,000 and 125,000 crossings per day, respectively.


In 2018, the ministry sought engineering firms to begin the design work, but the project never got off the ground. This week communications staff from the ministry did not immediately respond to a North Shore News request to explain the five-year delay, but North Vancouver-Lonsdale NDP MLA Bowinn Ma acknowledged that the update is a positive one.

“While the damage of a vessel impact is very unlikely, these crossings are so critically important to the North Shore, to the province, and really nationally, these protections are overdue,” she said. “The retrofits are meant to complement the stringent vessel transit procedures put in place by the by the Vancouver Fraser Port Authority for the safe movement of people and goods through the Burrard Inlet.”

Ma said the North Shore has already seen what happens when a pothole requires just one lane of the Ironworkers to be closed, or when a snowstorm prevents health-care workers from commuting to Lions Gate Hospital.

“The consequences to the North Shore would be just extraordinary,” she said. “It could be absolutely catastrophic for us.”

The ministry will be consulting with regulatory bodies, Indigenous groups, local governments, the marine industry and boaters for the exact designs, but they do know the protection for Lions Gate Bridge will require a rock-fill berm at the base of its south tower, similar to one already in place at the north tower.
The article also mentions long-term planning for the IWM:

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Structurally, the Ironworkers still has about 40 years of life left in it, but later this year the province will begin a study into where it fits in the longer term. Exactly what that study will include hasn’t been decided yet, but Ma said at least one part of it should be clear.

“I would say it’s quite critical that the terms of reference for this work include consideration for how it dovetails with the concept of a rapid transit solution for the North Shore. That’s a concept that the North Shore has done substantial work to get off the ground,” she said.

As for those eager to see the province get to work on a wider replacement today, Ma cautioned that more lanes of travel won’t have the desired effect of congestion-free commutes.

“Even if we cross more cars over the bridges onto the North Shore, where do they go on the other end? A lot of them spill into our local streets and jam up our local streets,” she said.

Far more effective will be concentrating new development in areas with access to transit, shopping and services so residents won’t be so reliant on cars and roads for all of their needs, she added.
On a related note, the paper used for the NSN print edition is considerably shorter now; it is comparable in size to a folded copy of the Vancouver Sun held sideways. Yet another sign of the seemingly inevitable cost-cutting for print editions...
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2023, 7:21 AM
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Today's North Shore News has an article about the Burrard Inlet bridges, looking at plans to protect them from vessel collisions:



The article also mentions long-term planning for the IWM:



On a related note, the paper used for the NSN print edition is considerably shorter now; it is comparable in size to a folded copy of the Vancouver Sun held sideways. Yet another sign of the seemingly inevitable cost-cutting for print editions...
Has there ever been a vessel collision with any of the bridges in their lifespans (or their predecessors)?
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Old Posted Apr 6, 2023, 7:47 AM
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Has there ever been a vessel collision with any of the bridges in their lifespans (or their predecessors)?
There was an incident in October 1979 when the freighter Japan Erica collided with the Second Narrows rail crossing, severely damaging that structure and closing it until March 1980.

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There was an incident in October 1979 when the freighter Japan Erica collided with the Second Narrows rail crossing, severely damaging that structure and closing it until March 1980.

There was that out of control freighter near the Lions Gate as well.
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There was that out of control freighter near the Lions Gate as well.
Yes, several, including the Marvel I that lost power while transiting the First Narrows in 2022:



and the Krateros that lost steering while leaving the harbour and ran aground off Stanley Park in 2006:

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North Harbour looks to be at the 3rd or 4th floor. Best to see the original size in the link.


From Trish Jewison https://twitter.com/TrishJewison/sta...459328/photo/1
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There are about four cranes up. Saw an update somewhere on twitter
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2023, 2:48 AM
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From their Instagram today. Drift has reached level 4 and the other are still building out the parkades.







https://www.instagram.com/p/CrL6e8-R_l7/
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There are about four cranes up. Saw an update somewhere on twitter
Also on the North Shore, from downtown I can see a few cranes that seem to be up at the top of Lonsdale?
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Also on the North Shore, from downtown I can see a few cranes that seem to be up at the top of Lonsdale?
New recreation centre and housing on part of the old rec centre site.
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Also on the North Shore, from downtown I can see a few cranes that seem to be up at the top of Lonsdale?
There's two at Northmount
Two at Cressey's rental project beside Lion's Gate
One at Lions Gate

Plus the f̶o̶u̶r̶ three jolly mentioned just south of the highway.

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Update on Lonsdale Square at the old rec centre site, the two buildings in the first phase are topped out and only one crane left there:


Photo from Darwin Construction https://twitter.com/DarwinConstr/sta...424583/photo/1

More photos:https://www.instagram.com/p/CrBnSl7ygZJ/
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Thanks.
The cranes would be the ones south of the TCH.
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The stairs will connect from the main level now.







https://www.instagram.com/lonsdalequay/
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Old Posted Apr 19, 2023, 5:32 PM
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New recreation centre and housing on part of the old rec centre site.
https://www.cnv.org/business-develop...ion-centre-new
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The stairs will connect from the main level now.

https://www.instagram.com/lonsdalequay/
I'm sure that the large graphic looked okay on paper, but it's unrecognizable as anything when placed on the building.
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I'm sure that the large graphic looked okay on paper, but it's unrecognizable as anything when placed on the building.
I think that's the point..
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Chard Proposing 26-Storey Rental and 12-Storey Hotel in North Vancouver

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Two aging hotels near the Lions Gate Bridge in North Vancouver are set to be redeveloped into one new hotel and one rental high-rise, according to a preliminary development application submitted to the District of North Vancouver by Vancouver-based Chard Development.

According to the District, Chard submitted a preliminary application in October 2021, and staff completed the initial review by June 2022, but Chard did not submit a full application until March 27, 2023.

The subject site is 1634-1748 Capilano Road, near the intersection with Marine Drive. The Sure Stay Hotel By Best Western currently occupies 1634 Capilano Road, while the Econo Lodge Inn & Suites occupies 1748 Capilano Road. BC Assessment records show that the two two-storey hotels were originally built in 1964 and 1974, respectively.


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Chard Proposing 26-Storey Rental and 12-Storey Hotel in North Vancouver
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Seems like a reasonable choice for the area, with the civic amenities across Capilano Road and the nearby R2 and (eventually, probably) SkyTrain connection. The District will need to give a good think to the road network; it is already problematic with the northbound bus stop (bus blocks a lane) and Curling Road lights less than 150 metres from the Capilano/Marine intersection. Now, if only they would redevelop the International Plaza site...

EDIT: So, apparently the proposal calls for Curling to go east as well, between the two towers.

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Seems like a reasonable choice for the area, with the civic amenities across Capilano Road and the nearby R2 and (eventually, probably) SkyTrain connection. The District will need to give a good think to the road network; it is already problematic with the northbound bus stop (bus blocks a lane) and Curling Road lights less than 150 metres from the Capilano/Marine intersection. Now, if only they would redevelop the International Plaza site...

EDIT: So, apparently the proposal calls for Curling to go east as well, between the two towers.
Garden Avenue might turn into a problem as well.

I think the Squamish Nation mentioned something about the International Plaza site.
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