Salt Lake MSA Development Thread

[delts145]

Center to build Utah’s economy, patriotic reputation

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/home/50999978-76/utah-center-construction-data.html.csp#

Camp Williams » The creation of up to 10,000 construction jobs alone makes the Utah Data Center a great project for the state...

...As Maj. Gen. Brian Tarbet, head of the Utah National Guard, put it: “This will be an important link in intelligence and defense systems to find, fix and kill enemies and to protect American citizens.”

The facility, scheduled for completion in October 2013, will occupy 1 million square feet of space on 240 acres of Camp Williams’ property on the Salt Lake-Utah county line.

Its nerve center will be 100,000 square feet of climate-controlled computer space, where U.S. intelligence agencies will collect information that will be used to protect national security networks and help the U.S. Department of Homeland Security provide warnings about cybersecurity threats.

Accomplishing that on an accelerated timetable requires a massive investment in infrastructure — everything from the 65 megawatts of electricity needed for the computers and their cooling systems to the perimeter security system that will protect the facility from attack...

...Tarbet said his facility was selected as the Utah Data Center site because, “Utah and Camp Williams made the best case for taxpayers to put it here,” a boast validated later by Brig. Gen. Peter “Duke” DeLuca of the Corps of Engineers. He said that while there are “at least 50 perfect states to build a data center,” Utah won based on results of a selection process that evaluated 130 different factors...

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[shakman]

This project will put Utah on the world stage... ...in a good way. In addition this project will hopefully create confidence within companies to re-locate to the area. I think both SLC and Utah Valleys will greatly benefit from this project in many ways too come.

Two multi-billion dollar projects in a state with a population of ?2.7 million? says too much to comprehend about economic growth and confidence.

[Future Mayor]

I too am wondering how accurate the original site plan rendering is compared to what was unveiled yesterday.

Here we have what looks to be a campus below (east) of Redwood Road and in the bottom site plan, Redwood is show below the site.

Originally Posted by delts145

Computer rendering of the first Intelligence Community Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative (CNCI) Data Center, at Camp Williams, Utah on display at Camp Williams for the groundbreaking on Thursday, Jan. 6, 2011. (BDB)



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Originally Posted by joscar

The future Mountain View Corridor will be squeezed between the center and Redwood road.
Here is the area, in red, that the center will occupy in relation to Camp Williams and Redwood -


Google Maps

[joscar]

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[Orlando]

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/neighborhoo...project-property-cottonwood-tax.html.csp

new hotel, offices, condos 3stories max.

[goldcntry]

Group files another lawsuit to stop soccer complex
January 13th, 2011 @ 3:25pm
By Jared Page

SALT LAKE CITY — An environmental group seeking to stop construction of a soccer complex along the Jordan River filed another lawsuit this week, this time against the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers.

It's the fifth lawsuit filed in recent months by the Jordan River Restoration Network in an effort to stop Salt Lake City from beginning construction of the Salt Lake Regional Athletic Complex near 1900 West and 2200 North.

In the latest court filing, the nonprofit environmental advocacy group appeals the Army Corps of Engineers' issuance of a permit that allowed the city to move forward with the project near the Jordan River.
"We filed our lawsuit to stop Mayor (Ralph) Becker and his friends from destroying the city's largest natural open space along the Jordan River." -- Jeff Salt, coordinator for Jordan River Restoration Network

In the lawsuit, the Jordan River Restoration Network contends that the corps violated provisions of the Clean Water Act, the National Environmental Policy Act and the Administrative Procedures Act when it approved a wetland fill permit for the project. The group wants that permit to be declared invalid and returned to the corps for reconsideration.

"We filed our lawsuit to stop Mayor (Ralph) Becker and his friends from destroying the city's largest natural open space along the Jordan River," said Jeff Salt, coordinator for Jordan River Restoration Network and co-plaintiff in the lawsuit.
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"This complex is a great idea if the community has need for it and will use it. the environmental group is made up of people who need to find employment (too much time on their hands)." -- Pam Pfister
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Danny Potts, another plaintiff in the lawsuit, says Salt Lake City and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers failed to adequately study alternatives and select the least environmentally damaging site, as required by federal law, for what he calls the "sprawl soccer complex."

"We sued because the city broke the law," Potts said.

A spokeswoman for Mayor Becker's office said the Jordan River Restoration Network's latest claim is "without merit."

"The city believes that the issuance of the permit by the Corps of Engineers will be upheld by the court," Lisa Harrison Smith said.

The Jordan River Restoration Network has filed four other lawsuits related to the soccer complex — two over access to public records; one appealing a rezone and master plan amendments; and another challenging the Proposition 5 bond approved by voters in 2003.

In the latter lawsuit, the Jordan River Restoration Network alleges that the project approved by voters in 2003 is "significantly and materially different" from that for which the city now intends to use the bond. The group also alleges that the city failed to properly provide notice of public meetings and actions related to the bond.

The lawsuit regarding the bond has prevented the Salt Lake City Council from authorizing the sale of $15.3 million in voter-approved bonds, at least temporarily.

City attorneys say the legal challenge is "without merit" and have filed a motion to dismiss the lawsuit. Oral arguments in that matter are scheduled for Jan. 31.

City leaders held a groundbreaking ceremony in early November for the $22.8 million first phase of the Salt Lake Regional Athletic Complex.

City officials plan to use the $15.3 million bond and a $7.5 million gift from Real Salt Lake to fund construction of 15 competition-quality soccer fields and one championship field with bleachers and lights.

Members of the Jordan River Restoration Network say they aren't opposed to development of a soccer complex in Salt Lake City. But they say it doesn't belong along the Jordan River.

"Our complaint is about pursuing viable alternatives and preserving wetlands," said Eric Harvey, a co-plaintiff in the lawsuit against the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. "Isn't Mayor Becker leading us into another Legacy (Parkway) fiasco?"

The 14-mile Legacy Parkway in south Davis County cost $685 million — busting the project's budget by nearly $235 million — after environmental groups sued the Utah Department of Transportation and the federal government. An eventual compromise included preserving some wetlands by moving the highway closer to I-15 and promoting a commuter-rail line.

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=13988899

[RFPCME]

I've been very interested in the new NSA data center since it was first announced 12 months ago. After searching far and wide and asking as many people as I know in the cyber security business over the past year, I've come to a simple conclusion: we will never know much about the center, either in terms of its composition or what its primary mission is--i.e., beyond the vague term "cyber security."

We do know that it's going to take an enormous amount of power, like an aluminum smelter, possibly several aluminum smelters. But no one will ever know exactly how much or when the power is consumed. And no one will ever be able to track those data down.

After it is built, it will become commonplace very fast, with little traffic going in or out of it and the Government doing everything it can to keep the center out of the limelight, just like the other intelligence data centers around the country.

We can also guess the construction standards will be over the top, about what we would expect for facilities that will store an ever-growing ocean of data that represent our best chance of averting the most pernicious threat the United States has ever faced (Just think about what would happen to us if our power grid suddenly malfunctioned for days or even weeks?)

So, when all is said and done, those warehouse-looking structures (after they are built), as unimpressive as they may be physically, likely will have more to do with protecting our very way of life than all the planes and missiles in our air force, the hardware in our army, and the ships in our navy. We will take them for granted quickly, like boring neighbors, which is exactly what the Government is hoping for. But that's a good thing, especially if we remember (as was announced today) that a computer worm has delayed Iran's nuclear program for years...if not longer.

[jtrent77]

Originally Posted by RFPCME

I've been very interested in the new NSA data center since it was first announced 12 months ago. After searching far and wide and asking as many people as I know in the cyber security business over the past year, I've come to a simple conclusion: we will never know much about the center, either in terms of its composition or what its primary mission is--i.e., beyond the vague term "cyber security."

We do know that it's going to take an enormous amount of power, like an aluminum smelter, possibly several aluminum smelters. But no one will ever know exactly how much or when the power is consumed. And no one will ever be able to track those data down.

After it is built, it will become commonplace very fast, with little traffic going in or out of it and the Government doing everything it can to keep the center out of the limelight, just like the other intelligence data centers around the country.

We can also guess the construction standards will be over the top, about what we would expect for facilities that will store an ever-growing ocean of data that represent our best chance of averting the most pernicious threat the United States has ever faced (Just think about what would happen to us if our power grid suddenly malfunctioned for days or even weeks?)

So, when all is said and done, those warehouse-looking structures (after they are built), as unimpressive as they may be physically, likely will have more to do with protecting our very way of life than all the planes and missiles in our air force, the hardware in our army, and the ships in our navy. We will take them for granted quickly, like boring neighbors, which is exactly what the Government is hoping for. But that's a good thing, especially if we remember (as was announced today) that a computer worm has delayed Iran's nuclear program for years...if not longer.

There's a reason that NSA is often referred to as "No Such Agency."

[Wasatch_One]

So is the data center being built entirely over what is currently the Camp Williams Airfield on the Utah County side?

[SLC Projects]

Jeff Salt is a moron. ( I'm sorry, but I don't like the guy. ) The soccer fields is open space and these fields are NOT going to do any harm to the Jordan River or the area itself. I much rather have soccer fields then having another strip mall or office park development. Heavens forbid lets not develop anything that will get our kids out of their houses from playing video games and getting them more active.

[redzeppelin]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

Jeff Salt is a moron. ( I'm sorry, but I don't like the guy. ) The soccer fields is open space and these fields are NOT going to do any harm to the Jordan River or the area itself. I much rather have soccer fields then having another strip mall or office park development. Heavens forbid lets not develop anything that will get our kids out of their houses from playing video games and getting them more active.

If nothing else, the soccer complex will bring more people closer to the river, and possibly result in greater awareness of the condition of the river and gerater support for future restoration/preservation/protection projects. It's a good thing.

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by redzeppelin

If nothing else, the soccer complex will bring more people closer to the river, and possibly result in greater awareness of the condition of the river and gerater support for future restoration/preservation/protection projects. It's a good thing.

Agreed.

[redzeppelin]

Originally Posted by Wasatch_One

So is the data center being built entirely over what is currently the Camp Williams Airfield on the Utah County side?

That's how it looks to me. I think that this construction site may even be slightly futher south than the Adobe campus if you really look at it.

[WeST]

While I am excited about this project and the potential for a halo effect with supportive services, I don't think we should expect to see a fly over of this building in any movies. It is a fair ugly area, so they will stick with the standard shots of Langley.

RFPCME, brings up great points. It is a reminder that much of warfare now and in the future will be by the video game generation. For better or worse, future soldiers will kill from desks and be home in time for dinner and to put the kids to bed. We have come a long way since the days of hand to hand combat.

Bring on the cyber army!

[jtrent77]

Originally Posted by WeST

While I am excited about this project and the potential for a halo effect with supportive services, I don't think we should expect to see a fly over of this building in any movies. It is a fair ugly area, so they will stick with the standard shots of Langley.

RFPCME, brings up great points. It is a reminder that much of warfare now and in the future will be by the video game generation. For better or worse, future soldiers will kill from desks and be home in time for dinner and to put the kids to bed. We have come a long way since the days of hand to hand combat.

Bring on the cyber army!

Langley = CIA not NSA. The NSA is far more secretive, and if there are any shots of the NSA buildings in movies, they are very few and I doubt anyone would look at them and say...hey those are the NSA buildings (which the HQ is just outside Greenbelt, MD).

[delts145]

Update - Raising the beam for health care in South Jordan

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705364483/Raising-the-beam-for-health-care-in-South-Jordan.html


Noe Buenrostro prepares the final steel beam for the University of Utah's new health center during a topping-out ceremony Friday, Jan. 14, 2011, in South Jordan. The 208,000-square-foot health center that will provide South Jordan with much needed access to primary, specialty, and emergency health care services. (Scott G. Winterton, Deseret News)


Salt Lake Tribune


http://healthcare.utah.edu/primarycare



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[WeST]

Originally Posted by jtrent77

Langley = CIA not NSA. The NSA is far more secretive, and if there are any shots of the NSA buildings in movies, they are very few and I doubt anyone would look at them and say...hey those are the NSA buildings (which the HQ is just outside Greenbelt, MD).

I am aware that Langley is CIA. That building is the most common shot in spy/government thriller movies. I am saying that if they want to use an NSA building for a shot during a spy movie, they won't likely choose ours.

[SLC Projects]

That University of Utah's new health center @ daybreak sure went up fast. It didn't seem like that long ago I drove by that site and crews were just breaking ground.

[delts145]

Murray may unshackle height limits downtown

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/neighborhoo.../buildings-area-height-parking.html.csp#

Murray • The sky could be the limit soon.

The Murray Planning Commission voted at a Jan. 20 meeting to recommend approval of ordinances that allow builders to go as high as they want in the City Center District and require new buildings in part of the area to be at least four stories tall.

The idea is to create a cultural, entertainment and civic center. And with land in the city already 98 percent built out, planning officials thought unlimited height and density was the way to go...

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[i-215]

Originally Posted by RFPCME

After it is built, it will become commonplace very fast, with little traffic going in or out of it and the Government doing everything it can to keep the center out of the limelight, just like the other intelligence data centers around the country.

The NSA does realize that the innocent "Power Line R.O.W." on the back of their site is the future R.O.W. for the 85 freeway (Mountain View Fwy)? That means UDOT is going to slice the site up like a pizza, with visual exposure on both sides.