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Old Posted Sep 6, 2023, 3:58 PM
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 12:56 AM
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That facade looks slick. It's very longhorny.
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 2:11 AM
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That facade looks slick. It's very longhorny.




Jk, I am super excited with what I already see -- pinch me because our state's tallest is going to be WHITE!!!
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 2:23 AM
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Nice that the curtain wall covers up the parking garage portion(everywhere that has a concrete pony wall). I was getting worried about that Cesar Chavez side.

Last edited by IluvATX; Sep 7, 2023 at 2:29 AM. Reason: Also, when is amenity deck? We have 8 levels of above ground parking already and 5? Below grade.
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Is the office space in Waterline pre-leased?
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 6:25 PM
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Is the office space in Waterline pre-leased?
Interesting question. Nobody seems eager to explore this topic (probable empty newly constructed office buildings) on this site. My personal take is that Austin developers are headed over a cliff with so much new office product coming online in roughly the same time frame.
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No, they don't appear to have a pre-lease. This and the Republic will be the last major office projects to break ground during the next few years. Everything else U/C is mainly residential and hotel.
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Interesting question. Nobody seems eager to explore this topic (probable empty newly constructed office buildings) on this site. My personal take is that Austin developers are headed over a cliff with so much new office product coming online in roughly the same time frame.
I would not worry. Additionally, most of these projects are not being developed by "Austin developers." They are developers based elsewhere and with quite a portfolio nationally. These are mid-term/long-term plays. They are not going to hurt. Also, occupation is not slated until 2026 or later. A lot will change over the coming 18-36 months.

Having said that, I do not anticipate any new (major) spec office projects to break ground in the short-term.
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 9:56 PM
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jtype plotting his next great jobsite break in to take pics from the crane. Real question is which crane will he try to take pics from
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Old Posted Sep 7, 2023, 10:03 PM
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that seems a little different (and more value engineered) than what I've seen in the podium renderings. Can someone point me to the latest rendering of this section?
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Old Posted Sep 8, 2023, 1:25 AM
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that seems a little different (and more value engineered) than what I've seen in the podium renderings. Can someone point me to the latest rendering of this section?
The north side of the base is as rendered. https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205341&page=118

I think you're probably thinking of the south-west corner.

And this doesn't look value engineered at all to me, it's high-quality cladding.
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Old Posted Sep 8, 2023, 4:57 AM
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I would not worry. Additionally, most of these projects are not being developed by "Austin developers." They are developers based elsewhere and with quite a portfolio nationally. These are mid-term/long-term plays. They are not going to hurt. Also, occupation is not slated until 2026 or later. A lot will change over the coming 18-36 months.

Having said that, I do not anticipate any new (major) spec office projects to break ground in the short-term.
I should have referred to downtown Austin developments instead of developers. The point remains that vacancy rates are the highest since 2009. According to a recent report in The Real Deal, office vacancy in Austin hit 19.7 percent last quarter, setting a record high going back to at least 2009.

Even businesses that have already signed large footprints are getting skittish, as total sublease space reached 5.4 million square feet, according to JLL. In the last three months alone, tenants placed 1 million square feet back on the market.

So far, 2023 has been dismal for office owners. Some 940,000 more square feet have hit the market than come off it. I am not certain how many square feet of Class A are currently under construction downtown, but I know it easily exceeds a million square feet. I don't have an iron in this fire, but I think I can spot a potential real estate bust when I see one. In commercial real estate, 3 years out or 4 years out is a blink of the eye. A lot of construction loans are going to have to be refinanced, and existing office portfolios nationwide currently holding 3 percent paper are looking for a financing reset in the next few years as well. It took a decade or longer for downtown high rises to lease out after the bust of the 1980s. It was the era of the "see-through" office building, and there was considerable collateral damage.

This Atlantic article sheds some light. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archiv...real-estate-crisis-empty-offices/674310/
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The north side of the base is as rendered. https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=205341&page=118

I think you're probably thinking of the south-west corner.

And this doesn't look value engineered at all to me, it's high-quality cladding.
Thank you! And you're right, I was imagining the southwest corner.
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Old Posted Sep 9, 2023, 9:57 PM
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More cladding:



Honestly I super dig it. Our supertall could have just been another glass box, but even if it weren't on our tallest it would probably be my favorite facade in all of Austin.
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Man this thing looks good.
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A lot of activity in the discussion here, so I thought I'd take another progress video. Travis is getting up there, and Rainy is looking pretty awesome.


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