Canadian LRT/RT projects U/C

[craner]

Could Calgary’s Green Line actually be happening ?
http://https://livewirecalgary.com/2022/03/31/calgary-green-line-transit-project-goes-to-rfq/

[accord1999]

Originally Posted by craner

Could Calgary’s Green Line actually be happening ?
http://https://livewirecalgary.com/2022/03/31/calgary-green-line-transit-project-goes-to-rfq/

Still a ways to go from RFQ to construction, and that's assuming costs don't escalate even more.

[J.OT13]

Lincoln Fields Station, from Daniel Innes on Twitter,






https://twitter.com/InfraManDan/status/1516973279868772353?cxt=HHwWgoCzhaXKr40qAAAA

As the station where Lines 1 and 3 split, it will become a major rail/rail and bus/rail transfer. The station will have three tracks and two platforms, a bus loop, washrooms and retail.

Again from from Daniel Innes on Twitter, progress along the eastern extension to Orleans.






https://twitter.com/InfraManDan/status/1516972998418477056?cxt=HHwWgMC9ifS5r40qAAAA

And along Trillium from Rail Fans Snapshot updates:

Airport




https://otrain.railfans.ca/snapshot-updates-2/snapshot-of-airport-station-april-14-2022

South Keys, the transfer station between the airport line and main Trillium Line, along with the S/E Transitway.






https://otrain.railfans.ca/snapshot-updates-2/snapshot-of-south-keys-station-april-5-2022

Bayview (transfer between Line 1/3 and Line 2), Gladstone (infill station with significant TOD, including affordable housing coming down the pipeline), Dow's Lake (significant TOD+new Civic Hospital) and Carleton (Ottawa's second largest University and busiest Trillium station for the past 20+ years) from Pat on Rail Fans Discord:

[Nite]

Part 5: Revenge of the Bureaucrats
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[casper]

Originally Posted by Nite

Part 5: Revenge of the Bureaucrats
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Humans driving rapid transit trains? That is so 1970s. We adopted driverless transit in the 1980s.

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[J.OT13]

Ottawa River Parkway and Byron tunnels to Lincoln Fields. This stretch includes two new open air trench stations along the tunnel.

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Woodroffe High School to Lincoln Fields.

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Algonquin Station, the south terminus of Lines 1 and 3.

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[ssiguy]

With Calgary's Green line going underground N/S thru the downtown core, will they be building in an underground pre-station at the junction point for a future E/W LRT underground thru the core?

[craner]

Originally Posted by ssiguy

With Calgary's Green line going underground N/S thru the downtown core, will they be building in an underground pre-station at the junction point for a future E/W LRT underground thru the core?

The N-S Green Line will have an underground station at 7th Ave. When the E-W Red Line eventually goes underground it will run below 8th Ave. I’m sure the plan is to connect the stations but I’m not sure what is involved for that as part of Green Line construction.
I know that doesn’t answer your question but it avoids it.

[J.OT13]

City of Ottawa politicians holding an event near Jeanne d'Arc Station claiming this is the start of rail installation in the east even though it's been happening for months. Wasting the time of the construction workers, the media, and our very own Reece Martin.


https://twitter.com/ChrisKurys/status/1518940496961454081?cxt=HHwWgoC-xbKVrpQqAAAA

[Luisito]

Nice to see Ottawa getting more rail transit. Not a huge fan of the tram/metro hybrid but it still cool they are getting something.

I hope we eventually get something here in WPG.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Luisito

Nice to see Ottawa getting more rail transit. Not a huge fan of the tram/metro hybrid but it still cool they are getting something.

I hope we eventually get something here in WPG.

You guys have the transitway system. I'm guessing when it is busy enough, there will be real talks of replacing it with an LRT.

[casper]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

City of Ottawa politicians holding an event near Jeanne d'Arc Station claiming this is the start of rail installation in the east even though it's been happening for months. Wasting the time of the construction workers, the media, and our very own Reece Martin.


https://twitter.com/ChrisKurys/status/1518940496961454081?cxt=HHwWgoC-xbKVrpQqAAAA

RM is carefully documenting the event. The political leadership are all bent over almost ready to tip over watching the poor guy put the rail in place.

[J.OT13]

Reece Martin video of the O-Train expansion.

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[Coldrsx]

^it's quite remarkable how under the radar this rather city changing expansion is.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by Coldrsx

^it's quite remarkable how under the radar this rather city changing expansion is.

Part of that might be the challenges of the Phase 1. Things that come to my mine about Ottawa's new LRT is:
the problems running in snow,
The sinkhole at Rideau Centre,
The derailments over lack of maintenance,
Etc.

At no time do I think of how transformative it is and will be, unless I look at what they are doing and where it goes.

[casper]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Part of that might be the challenges of the Phase 1. Things that come to my mine about Ottawa's new LRT is:
the problems running in snow,
The sinkhole at Rideau Centre,
The derailments over lack of maintenance,
Etc.

At no time do I think of how transformative it is and will be, unless I look at what they are doing and where it goes.

At this point it is clear they should have picked the same technology as Vancouver Expor and Millenium line but some low floor tram sales rep was just extremely skilled. Now it is to late late. Ottawa will just have to learn how to make due.

[swimmer_spe]

Originally Posted by casper

At this point it is clear they should have picked the same technology as Vancouver Expor and Millenium line but some low floor tram sales rep was just extremely skilled. Now it is to late late. Ottawa will just have to learn how to make due.

Add that to the list we hear about instead of how good the line(s) are and will be.

[casper]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Add that to the list we hear about instead of how good the line(s) are and will be.

Certain given some time they will figure out how to make it all work.

During the first year or two there were problems with Skytrain in Vancouver. A few years later everyone forgot they even happened.

Perhaps some day Ottawa will also come along to not having drivers.

[Beedok]

Originally Posted by swimmer_spe

Part of that might be the challenges of the Phase 1. Things that come to my mine about Ottawa's new LRT is:
the problems running in snow,
The sinkhole at Rideau Centre,
The derailments over lack of maintenance,
Etc.

At no time do I think of how transformative it is and will be, unless I look at what they are doing and where it goes.

Part of the reason it’s easy to not think about that is that it won’t really be transforming much. Outside of the downtown and then the bit just east of Lincoln Fields, it’s most just one rapid transit system replacing an already existing rapid transit system. And one that takes a cheap route avoiding the actually populated parts of the city whenever possible.

Which was, honestly, acceptable for BRT since your bus would go along the transitway then pop out to serve your neighbourhood. But is annoying with LRT where you often have two transfers to get anywhere if you aren’t going downtown.

The city could have good BRT and a good quality core light metro, but, instead, they decided to ruin the BRT with an awkward tram pretending to be a metro running through farmland just so they could have more rail, but then less actual rapid transit.

[jamincan]

Originally Posted by Beedok

Part of the reason it’s easy to not think about that is that it won’t really be transforming much. Outside of the downtown and then the bit just east of Lincoln Fields, it’s most just one rapid transit system replacing an already existing rapid transit system. And one that takes a cheap route avoiding the actually populated parts of the city whenever possible.

Which was, honestly, acceptable for BRT since your bus would go along the transitway then pop out to serve your neighbourhood. But is annoying with LRT where you often have two transfers to get anywhere if you aren’t going downtown.

The city could have good BRT and a good quality core light metro, but, instead, they decided to ruin the BRT with an awkward tram pretending to be a metro running through farmland just so they could have more rail, but then less actual rapid transit.

A lot of the sections of Phase 2 actually are new rapid transit including a number of infill stations, extensions of the Trillium line, a new section of RT along Byron east of Lincoln Fields and no more mixed operations on highways or streets.