SAN FRANCISCO | 301 Mission Street | 645 FT / 197 M | 60 FLOORS

[Reminiscence]

I wish those guys would be a little more up to par about information they post on thier site.

[AK47KC]

This is too confusing, I guess we have to wait and see what the final floor count is for the 'midrise' and tower, just like One Rincon and the 50' (15m) height difference in 300 Spear I.

[Reminiscence]

Yeah, it doesnt seem like anyone has the official details handy. Its just that different places say different things, and people have other ways of interpreting the information.

[northbay]

Originally Posted by BTinSF

I liked that one too, but the one that shows some closer detail of those odd "wings" interested me a lot. I still can't really get a grip on what the building is actually going to look like when finished but that one helped me.

yea, the renderings are nice. at first glance the building looks simple and boxy, but it looks like theres alot detail in the close-up shot. i cant wait for this project to finish!

[BTinSF]

Originally Posted by northbay420

at first glance the building looks simple and boxy

It's anything but "boxy".

[Reminiscence]

"Boxy", I hope, is a term to describe buildings in the past. SF is moving up in the ranks and needs building with different dimentions such as triangular or pyramidal.

[SFView]

I agree. No more plain boring boxes in San Francisco please!

[Reminiscence]

It would be nice to see more buildings in SF designed like this

[BTinSF]

hey, they tried the deco retro/revival thing:

[SFBoy]

That's one of my fav SF buildings. I wish they made it taller.

[Reminiscence]

That is a nice building, but I was refering more to the shape of the building rather than its style, even though its style is also good. Nevertheless, Millenium Tower will offer some styles that havent been seen in SF for a long time.

[WonderlandPark]

I like this one better. BTW, is this the tallest U/C building in the US West of the Mississippi?

[AK47KC]

I think yes by one meter, it just beat out the The Palazzo U/C in Las Vegas which is 196 m or 642', but I need to go check.

[Reminiscence]

Tallest west of the Mississippi River; Under constuction in 2006:

1. Hilton Hotel - Los Angeles (718' / 219m *estimated*)

2. Renaissance Club - Las Vegas (705' / 214.9m)

3. Victory Tower - Dallas (650' / 198.1m)

4. Millenium Tower - San Francisco (645' / 196.6m)

We may not be first this year, but in a few years we probably will be
And besides, at least we made the list, something we havent done in a while.

[AK47KC]

According to emporis, #2 and #3 still say approved and the Millennium Tower begun construction in August 2005, not 2006.

[Reminiscence]

Yeah, but then again, Emporis ... not exactly known for its accuracy

I'll change it though ...

[AK47KC]

I think emporis has grown too large to be properly maintained by a small number of staff; they really need to accept more volunteers to help keep its data fresh and up-to-date, but I know they don't really accept new volunteers and this leads to confusion in the threads here.

[Reminiscence]

Well, since they are'nt exactly changing the height figure every day, I'm sure eventually they'll get it right. Until then, I guess we'll just have to go with the official details that we have.

[BTinSF]

Originally Posted by SFBoy

That's one of my fav SF buildings. I wish they made it taller.

It's a guilty pleasure of mine, but it is usually mocked by locals in SF. And inside, frankly, it has the plastic look of a Chevy rather than, say a Mercedes.

[Reminiscence]

Heh, I dont recall a plastic look inside. But then again, its been years and years since I've been in there