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Old Posted Mar 27, 2019, 1:43 AM
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I wondered why they were seeking a height bonus of 130 feet. The renderings of the current stadium design do not hint at 130 feet, not even close unless they were wanting that approved for future expansions.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2019, 1:48 AM
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Shade is definitely necessary to keep fans coming back. Can't wait to see the new renderings.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2019, 2:18 AM
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I wondered why they were seeking a height bonus of 130 feet. The renderings of the current stadium design do not hint at 130 feet, not even close unless they were wanting that approved for future expansions.
I believe this zoning is technically for both phase 1 and phase 2, so the stadium could be shorter and they want the height for later development.
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Old Posted Mar 27, 2019, 4:34 AM
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When you say expandable in the future, were there any numbers on how much it could be expanded? I thought I read 22,000 a while back, but surely any expansion would be more than 1,500 seats to make it financially worth it.

Also, any timeline on the new renderings?

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Old Posted Mar 27, 2019, 5:22 AM
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When you say expandable in the future, were there any numbers on how much it could be expanded? I thought I read 22,000 a while back, but surely any expansion would be more than 1,500 seats to make it financially worth it.

Also, any timeline on the new renderings?

Thanks for all the info!
I think it'll be pretty obvious where the 1,500 seats would go once we see the new renderings. The expansion wouldn't require anything radical like we normally see at DKR.
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I think it'll be pretty obvious where the 1,500 seats would go once we see the new renderings. The expansion wouldn't require anything radical like we normally see at DKR.
They would pretty much have to go in the two south end corners.
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I'm curious what's on the other side of the sign. Looks like a rendering we haven't seen before.
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2019, 7:55 PM
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Looks like it's right outside of the Discount Tire. Maybe I'll go over there after I get off work today since I work nearby.
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2019, 8:02 PM
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Never mind, found that angle on Twitter, though not the best quality:

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Looks like the old design still. I heard they had to increase the roof size for the texas heat.
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My guess is those "blades" just go further over the structure than they used to.
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Looks like the old design still. I heard they had to increase the roof size for the texas heat.
They have to post a sign at the site for some reason according to the rezone and the new renderings haven't been released publicly yet.
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Old Posted Apr 3, 2019, 9:58 PM
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Looks like the old design still. I heard they had to increase the roof size for the texas heat.
They already said the design wouldn't be changing much.
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How about we get that Discount Tire on the corner of Burnet and Braker out of here next.
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How about we get that Discount Tire on the corner of Burnet and Braker out of here next.
Coming soon: Discount Tire Tower

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Just throw enough tires through their windows and they'll move.
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How about we get that Discount Tire on the corner of Burnet and Braker out of here next.
Their days might be numbered. The tax value of the land has doubled in the last 5 years. It'll be interesting to see how much it increases in the next few years after more sales in the area.
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Their days might be numbered. The tax value of the land has doubled in the last 5 years. It'll be interesting to see how much it increases in the next few years after more sales in the area.
Gentrification driver... another reason we need to change property taxation. That said, discount tire needs to go lol.
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Jesus Christ.

COTA lackey Susan Spataro and Bill Aleshire wrote bills for two Houston republican state congressmen that targets the Austin FC Stadium. The bill would only affect sports stadiums built after Jan 1st 2019 which is good news considering Houston has 4 stadiums built on public land.

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Senator Paul Bettencourt, R-Houston, has introduced legislation that could put a crimp in the plans of anyone leasing municipal property for a new sports facility – such as a soccer stadium – and planning not to pay property taxes to other local governments. The bill, SB 1771, is aimed directly at Precourt Sports Ventures and its agreement with the city of Austin.

Former county auditor Susan Spataro told the Austin Monitor Wednesday that she asked Bettencourt to carry the legislation, which attorney and former County Judge Bill Aleshire helped write. Both believe that Precourt is getting an unfair tax exemption from the deal it made with the city. They believe the legislation – which is narrowly drawn so it will not affect other stadiums and concert venues – will remedy that.

In December, the city signed a lease agreement with Precourt allowing the company to build and operate a Major League Soccer stadium at city-owned McKalla Place. Precourt agreed to pay a rental fee of $8.25 million over 20 years but will not pay city taxes.

Under current state law, property owned by the city is not subject to property taxes from any entity.

But apparently, Precourt did not seek any kind of agreement with Travis County, Central Health, Austin Independent School District or Austin Community College concerning taxes. That leaves those entities without obvious recourse, although Travis County commissioners asked Travis County Attorney David Escamilla to do research on legal remedies.

Aleshire told the Monitor that he helped Spataro write SB 1771. He said some people might be surprised to learn that he and Spataro collaborated on the bill because they have disagreed on many issues in the past. He gave Spataro credit for “doing the heavy lifting.”

SB 1771 adds a section to the state’s tax code allowing a county, school district or other local taxing jurisdiction to levy a tax on “a leasehold or other possessory interest in real property,” such as the one Precourt has for McKalla Place. An entity such as Travis County would have to approve the exemption through an action by the Commissioners Court. The same would be true for AISD, ACC and Central Health. Each one would have to approve the exemption of taxes that are estimated to be several million dollars.

When asked, Mayor Steve Adler seemed unfamiliar with SB 1771. After reading the bill, he provided the following statement: “Whether or not property put to a public use, like a stadium, concert hall, arena, sports facility, or visitor center, is subject to property taxes is a function of state law. Right now they’re not because the law encourages construction of public uses.

“A change in state law might make such facilities around the state less likely in the future, but it won’t impact the city’s soccer agreement. The city did not give any special, separate or additional exemptions from property taxes and the soccer agreement specifically provides the city isn’t responsible for any taxes that might be due,” the mayor’s statement concluded.

From Adler’s point of view, the city did not promise Precourt that it would not owe any taxes, other than city taxes, and the city specifically protected itself from the possibility that Precourt might try to get the city to help pay county or school district taxes, for example.

The legislation specifically would not apply to any concert hall, theater or stadium that was completed before January 1, 2019. A spokeswoman for the city’s Intergovernmental Relations Department said the city is monitoring the legislation but has taken no position on it.

Aleshire insists that SB 1771 does not threaten any other facility, including one or more that are almost complete. He noted that he believes the bill will be amended to move that date to May. He has been protesting the city’s decision to lease the property to Precourt since last summer and calls the deal between the city and the soccer club “a rip-off” of the taxpayers.

“The bill is intended to make tax exemptions for concert stadiums and sports stadiums on the same par as tax abatements,” he said. “It gives the same choice to the other taxing entities that they have for tax abatements. If exempting the soccer leasehold is a great idea, let the county, the school district, Central Health and ACC vote on it,” he concluded.

Another Houston Republican, Rep. Jim Murphy, has introduced HB 4528, which is identical to Bettencourt’s bill. Bettencourt is the chair of the Senate Property Tax Committee and Murphy is a member of the House Ways & Means Committee. Their respective bills have been assigned to those committees.
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Jesus Christ.

COTA lackey Susan Spataro and Bill Aleshire wrote bills for two Houston republican state congressmen that targets the Austin FC Stadium. The bill would only affect sports stadiums built after Jan 1st 2019 which is good news considering Houston has 4 stadiums built on public land.
https://capitol.texas.gov/tlodocs/86...pdf#navpanes=0

As written, it would also apply to any new municipally owned convention center (or expansions?). Or visitor center, concert hall, ....

Or any existing stadium that undergoes an expansion/renovation? It could be argued that any such construction means that they were no longer "completed" prior to January 2019.
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