601 Beach Crescent | 166m | 56 Fl | Proposed

[SpongeG]

how long till shovels in the ground? at least 2 years? or?

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

how long till shovels in the ground? at least 2 years? or?

Assuming city guy, and the Concord residents next door don't persuade Council to turn it down at rezoning (likely to occur in the fall), then they still have to finalize the design and get a development permit. More to the point of timing, they then have to sell enough high-priced condos to make the project work. If your crystal ball has the answer to when that might be, could you pm me with the winning lottery numbers as well? Thanks.

[dleung]

Hope this project dies. Not only is it ugly in its own right, it also cheapens and diminishes the effect of Vancouver house next door with this poor imitation applied as a graphic

[city guy]

Originally Posted by dleung

Hope this project dies. Not only is it ugly in its own right, it also cheapens and diminishes the effect of Vancouver house next door with this poor imitation applied as a graphic

I completely agree...and they should hire some good architects

[Klazu]

Maybe it's the renderings but I tend to agree that I am also not convinced the current proposal resulting in something subpar compared to Vancouver House. Keep the height but push this one back to drawing board.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by dleung

Hope this project dies. Not only is it ugly in its own right, it also cheapens and diminishes the effect of Vancouver house next door with this poor imitation applied as a graphic

Originally Posted by city guy

I completely agree...and they should hire some good architects

Originally Posted by Klazu

Maybe it's the renderings but I tend to agree that I am also not convinced the current proposal resulting in something subpar compared to Vancouver House. Keep the height but push this one back to drawing board.

Yes!! It's a cheap special fx job the way it is, IMO

[Vin]

Originally Posted by scryer

I absolutely agree.

However I think that the podium is actually fine.

To each their own I suppose. I just find that it is pretty messy as agreed by quite a few forumers. Therefore a consistent cladding type will improve the podium appearance.

[Jimbo604]

Originally Posted by Changing City

...rezoning (likely to occur in the fall)
...

Public Hearing has now been scheduled:
Thursday, September 17, 2020 at 6 pm

Source:
601 Beach Cr COV Rezoning webpage

[Feathered Friend]

https://rezoning.vancouver.ca/applic...Renderings.pdf

September 17th, 2020 Public Hearing – Vancouver’s Dancing Queen Hopes To Create A Scene For Affordable Housing

September 17th, 2020 Public Hearing –
In many ways this public hearing is long overdue, as the groundwork for it was laid back in 2011 when the Higher Buildings Policy was revised by city council. Their intent was to create a series of gateways into Downtown in locations that weren’t constrained by the view cones. Arguably that goal has been accomplished by the stunning architecture of Vancouver House, and the rising form of One Burrard Place, but this project has added another goal to achieve.

While nearly all the strata housing envisioned in the Beach Neighbourhood under the False Creek North ODP has been delivered, almost 25% of the non-market housing has yet to built. As local politicians of all stripes are quick to point out, that’s because funding from senior levels of government has largely dried up over the last few decades. That’s forced municipalities to get creative, but only time will justify whether it was the right decision to sell this civic property in 2016.

The NPA caucus on city council still seem to have concerns over that sale, as they attempted to delay this project’s referral to public hearing earlier this year. Perhaps they’ll get their questions answered at this meeting, but based on this project’s open houses it seems some people will oppose new neighbours of any income bracket in this area. That’s an important distinction, as this application offer more than just 303 strata homes, as it includes 152 non-market homes as well.

Already that element has won the support of the BCNPHA, the Downtown Vancouver BIA, the John Howard Society Pacific, and several other members of the general public. In contrast, design revisions submitted in October 2019 have lessened the opposition as these movements now preserve more of these individuals private views. Nevertheless, a combination of political intrigue, and 35 letters in opposition, means Hannah and I think this dancer inspired form could have a long night on the floor.

Backlash Expectations

601 Beach Crescent – High
A detailed website, and claims of a 1,000 signature petition are signs this could be a long night

https://cityduo.wordpress.com/2020/0...dable-housing/

[Canucks223]

Those renderings in the link look great! So is this thing getting built?

[Feathered Friend]

Originally Posted by Canucks223

Those renderings in the link look great! So is this thing getting built?

In a way, that's up to you and everyone else here, as city council will decide whether to approve or reject the proposal tonight. A few letters / speakers can make a real difference so, as we always say.

Want to speak up?:
Email your thoughts to City Council at publichearing@vancouver.ca , or register to speak in person or better yet by phone at the link below.

https://vancouver.ca/your-government...ng-form-2.aspx

[Canucks223]

Originally Posted by Feathered Friend

In a way, that's up to you and everyone else here, as city council will decide whether to approve or reject the proposal tonight. A few letters / speakers can make a real difference so, as we always say.

Want to speak up?:
Email your thoughts to City Council at publichearing@vancouver.ca , or register to speak in person or better yet by phone at the link below.

https://vancouver.ca/your-government...ng-form-2.aspx

Great, thanks for the info!

[Jimbo604]

Hearing live now at:

https://csg001-harmony.sliq.net/0031...190423/1/14654

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdn9...ature=youtu.be

[Changing City]

Originally Posted by Jimbo604

Hearing live now at:

https://csg001-harmony.sliq.net/0031...190423/1/14654

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdn9...ature=youtu.be

Adjourned at just before 10pm. All speakers heard, and questions asked. Meeting will reconvene on September 30, 2020, at 3 pm, to continue with debate and decision.

[Jimbo604]

Vancouver City Clerk @VanCityClerk Tweet
#VanCityCouncil has recessed and will reconvene on September 30, 2020, at 3 pm, to continue with debate and decision on item 1. CD-1 Rezoning: 601 Beach Crescent.

Upcoming Council Meetings is saying 3pm

Agenda page is saying 6pm though.

Public Correspondence, etc is listed on the Agenda Page

1. CD-1 Rezoning: 601 Beach Crescent
Summary and Recommendation PDF
Draft By-law to Amend CD-1 (366) PDF
Draft By-law - CD-1PDF
Draft By-law to Amend ODP PDF
Draft By-law - SignPDF
Referral Report dated June 24, 2020 PDF
Applicant resubmission PDF
Applicant original submission Model PDF
Applicant original submission Board PDF
Memorandum dated September 16, 2020 PDF
Staff Presentation PDF
Applicant Presentation PDF
Correspondence

[city guy]

any news on this? wasn't council meeting today to decide?

[TheTerminalCity]

Originally Posted by city guy

any news on this? wasn't council meeting today to decide?

Council approved the rezoning today, 8-2. Hardwick and De Genova opposing. Kirby-Yung was either not present or otherwise unable to vote.

https://twitter.com/Meerakati/status...271296/photo/1

[city guy]

Originally Posted by TheTerminalCity

Council approved the rezoning today, 8-2. Hardwick and De Genova opposing. Kirby-Yung was either not present or otherwise unable to vote.

https://twitter.com/Meerakati/status...271296/photo/1

thanks for the info

[Feathered Friend]

I had to leave the meeting early, but it seemed like a close call as the there was an effort by NPA Councillors De Genova, Dominato, and Hardwick to refer the project back to city staff to see if the applicant would switch to rental housing.

I didn't get to hear everything, but it sounded like that would have delayed the project for at least a year, and resulted in a second public hearing.

[svlt]

Great news for the Vancouver skyline. An 8-2 vote wasn’t all that close (understood the referral back to city staff was a bit closer at 7-3), and I’m kind of impressed council showed such a strong vote of confidence.