[Burnaby] The Amazing Brentwood | 15 Towers | 186m | 56 flrs | U/C & Proposed

[LeftCoaster]

Possible? Of course. Is it going to happen? No.

[rofina]

Originally Posted by phesto

I'm growing concerned that this tower is being designed by James Cheng and it is taking so long for them to release a rendering...

Since all the advertisements say own it Spring 2014, I would expect something to appear soon.

Looking forward to seeing this tower.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Possible? Of course. Is it going to happen? No.

Is it not going to happen due to expense (my first guess), because it would "cut into" the town centre too much, or what?
As an example: the Hyde Park Corner Underpass A4 tunnel in London, which still permits traffic on Piccadilly to rejoin traffic on Knightsbridge.
Couldn't we do something like that (on a smaller scale, I'm sure) or is it still too expensive?

[Pinion]

There are so many places that would benefit from a tunnel before Willingdon and Lougheed. We just don't do those here. Cassiar was about 20 years too late.

[LeftCoaster]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Is it not going to happen due to expense (my first guess), because it would "cut into" the town centre too much, or what?
As an example: the Hyde Park Corner Underpass A4 tunnel in London, which still permits traffic on Piccadilly to rejoin traffic on Knightsbridge.
Couldn't we do something like that (on a smaller scale, I'm sure) or is it still too expensive?

It has nothing to do with cost and everything to do with attitude and perception.

The region does not want Lougheed to become a freeway so they will resist actions to make it a free flowing thuroughfare. It is supposed to be a mid level highway and they will ensure it stays that way.

I personally disagree with how they do that, I think the road would be much better served by a few semi interchanges the likes of which you see in Washington DC or Singapore, but I don't see it happening any time soon.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by officedweller

This may be of concern:

Villa Savoye:

http://www.bc.edu/bc_org/avp/cas/fnart/Corbu.html

But it does say the window washing equipment will be fully hidden

I see the connection...
I'm surprised there aren't many setbacks (it's more "Toronto" than "Vancouver" - at least the western facade)
From the Burnaby Now:

Brentwood mall skyscraper stirs debate
Stefania Seccia / Burnaby Now
February 27, 2014 02:05 PM


An architectural rendering of what the proposed 53-storey tower atop a three-storey commercial podium will look like at the corner of Halifax Street and Willingdon Avenue. The second tower seen in the background will be subject to a future public hearing, as well. Photograph by: Contributed/BURNABY NOW

Terry MacDonald and his wife Gloria have been living in the Brentwood area for more than 45 years – they’ve seen the area’s metamorphosis. But nothing has concerned them more than the potential problems that could arise with Brentwood mall’s redevelopment.

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See more at: http://www.burnabynow.com/brentwood-....uGeeaS0d.dpuf

[SpongeG]

news story i heard on CKNW the other night seemed to say the public meetings or open house about it were very positive and everyone loved the plans and were very supportive of it

[trofirhen]

Considering all the "rat running," (cars overflowing onto residential streets adding noise and danger; esp to children) that Mr. and Mrs MacDonald mention ... would this not be a moment to do some serious rethinking, and consider either a Lougheed or Willingdon underpass to take through traffic through, and off residential streets with families and young kids?
I mean, yes, I know it isn't in the Vancouver mindset, but it may be the most efficient solution, and seems worthy of serious consideration.

[Jebby]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

Considering all the "rat running," (cars overflowing onto residential streets adding noise and danger; esp to children) that Mr. and Mrs MacDonald mention ... would this not be a moment to do some serious rethinking, and consider either a Lougheed or Willingdon underpass to take through traffic through, and off residential streets with families and young kids?
I mean, yes, I know it isn't in the Vancouver mindset, but it may be the most efficient solution, and seems worthy of serious consideration.

There should be a Lougheed underpass built. Have two lanes each direction go underground through the intersection while keeping one lane for right and one lane for left turns over the intersection.

This will allow east-west traffic to flow unimpeded and significantly reduce red-light times for north-south traffic along Willingdon.

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by Jebby

There should be a Lougheed underpass built. Have two lanes each direction go underground through the intersection while keeping one lane for right and one lane for left turns over the intersection.

This will allow east-west traffic to flow unimpeded and significantly reduce red-light times for north-south traffic along Willingdon.

* Thank you for that positive reinforcement. That's pretty much what I had in mind. (I'll bet there's a lot of people against the concept, nevertheless. Why? Don't know)

[andasen]

Originally Posted by trofirhen

* Thank you for that positive reinforcement. That's pretty much what I had in mind. (I'll bet there's a lot of people against the concept, nevertheless. Why? Don't know)

Creating new underpasses in Burnaby or Vancouver WITCHCRAFT

[dleung]

Hope those towers are just a placeholder; they're incredibly boring and seem to have a completely arbitrarily orientation and relationship to its surroundings.

Does the render include an overpass? It seems to imply it, as they depict Willingdon sloping UP to the south as it meets Lougheed, when the reverse is currently true.

[officedweller]

Originally Posted by dleung

Hope those towers are just a placeholder; they're incredibly boring and seem to have a completely arbitrarily orientation and relationship to its surroundings.

Does the render include an overpass? It seems to imply it, as they depict Willingdon sloping UP to the south as it meets Lougheed, when the reverse is currently true.

An architectural rendering of what the proposed 53-storey tower atop a three-storey commercial podium will look like at the corner of Halifax Street and Willingdon Avenue. The second tower seen in the background will be subject to a future public hearing, as well. Photograph by: Contributed/BURNABY NOW

That is the view up Halifax towards Willigindon (looking eastwards).

[Millennium2002]

That's one giant turd of a building... and the evil control tower like protrusion at the top doesn't help matters.

[vansky]

the region needs variety, anything that looks different from yaletown is appreciated. vancouver is yet to develop anything that would make it look diff from nyc, miami, hk or ....that is due to a lack of variety, i appreciate all the masters but somehow they cannot break from their roots.james cheng's designs looks so philosophically similar to his guidance back in harvard. u gota break away from ur education. what is the canadian philosophy for skyscrapers? a nation with almost 40 million have to define itself more clearily...australian cities got more variety with their architecutre, post modernism...what is vancouver, glass, windows and boxes? i'm disappointed by the fact that van got a large market for condos, and despite that we've seen boring architecutre...hopefully that would change after 2020...

[trofirhen]

Originally Posted by allan_kuan

That's one giant turd of a building... and the evil control tower like protrusion at the top doesn't help matters.

I wouldn't necessarily call the "control tower-like protrusion" EVIL, but I admit both buildings have kind of a (in some of its neighbourhoods) Toronto-ish feeling and look to them. (i.e. monolithic and sterile). Then again, no design will suit everybody, no matter what.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

[Jebby]

I really like the render. If they could building it looking that clean, I'd love it.

[Millennium2002]

Well... if they refined the design such that it wasn't as boxy, I might like it more. But at present, it just looks like any other condo in Vancouver, if not worse.

[Pinion]

Originally Posted by allan_kuan

Well... if they refined the design such that it wasn't as boxy, I might like it more. But at present, it just looks like any other condo in Vancouver, if not worse.

A protruding box with a tree in it perhaps?

[Vin]

Originally Posted by vansky

the region needs variety, anything that looks different from yaletown is appreciated. vancouver is yet to develop anything that would make it look diff from nyc, miami, hk or ....that is due to a lack of variety, i appreciate all the masters but somehow they cannot break from their roots.james cheng's designs looks so philosophically similar to his guidance back in harvard. u gota break away from ur education. what is the canadian philosophy for skyscrapers? a nation with almost 40 million have to define itself more clearily...australian cities got more variety with their architecutre, post modernism...what is vancouver, glass, windows and boxes? i'm disappointed by the fact that van got a large market for condos, and despite that we've seen boring architecutre...hopefully that would change after 2020...

Most apartment blocks around the world look like commie blocks, and many having small windows (especially in hotter climates). Vancouver's apartment buildings have a lot of clear glass (dubbed 'seafoam glass'), and this itself is an identity. Could be monotonous to many living here as we are used to and even tired of their looks, but certainly a unique Vancouver identity.

If you disagree with me, please show me another city outside Canada with a downtown full of condos that look like those in Yaletown or Coal Harbour?

I do, however, agree with you that more unique buildings or skyscrapers need to be built here, something that is out-of-the-box. The Trump building and Vancouver House would, hopefully, be the new benchmark for new projects.

Those buildings at Brentwood would still look awesome when built, nevertheless. I prefer tall buildings to a mere parking lot.