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[Magnus1]

Originally Posted by SJPhillyBoy

I wanted to bring this over from the Philly thread.

Photo by Giovanni Sasso www.phillyskyline.com

wow, philly has clean skyline! i like those glass towers

[Don098]

You know, the more I look at the design, the more I think the spire is too tall. I wonder if it would look better if the actual building topped out maybe 75-100 feet higher up than currently proposed without increasing the height of the spire?

[TechTalkGuy]

Originally Posted by Don098

You know, the more I look at the design, the more I think the spire is too tall. I wonder if it would look better if the actual building topped out maybe 75-100 feet higher up than currently proposed without increasing the height of the spire?

So

As far as I'm concerned, this tower will be the Philadelphia edition of New York's Freedom Tower.

It would be awesome to have a tall spire at Philadelphia's highest point.

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by Philly-Drew

Question: If I did call a meeting of skyscraper enthusiasts from this thread, let’s say for Friday , April 28th at North Bowl in NoLis, who would come?

wow, you're forming a fanclub about me? how flattering...

[TechTalkGuy]

Originally Posted by skyscraper

wow, you're forming a fanclub about me? how flattering...

Oh geesh, I tried doing a fan gathering some time back - but you know what?

No one cared.

I used to be very active here.

When people stop caring, people give up.

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by fish

Oh geesh, I tried doing a fan gathering some time back - but you know what?

No one cared.

I used to be very active here.

When people stop caring, people give up.

relax, it was a joke.
I care, that's why I entered the profession, specifically to work on skyscrapers. hence my screen name.
what exactly do you hope to accomplish by meeting? are you thinking of forming a group similar to the design advocacy group? do you want to oppose nimbys? that would be a worthy goal right there. the imby's.
I don't mind getting together over a few hundred beers and talking skyscrapers and architecture in general. but if there is a course of action to be taken I'd like to know what it is.

[williamphilapa]

Original photo Matt Johnson

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by williamphilapa

Original photo Matt Johnson

the funny thing about that photo is that comcast and murano are still under construction, while acc is completed. talk about fast tracking acc!

[Busy Bee]

Originally Posted by cactus22minus1

Well I can fake a diagram using one of the renders and that very diagram search:

Looks like you used that image of the first Trump Tower Chicago design for part of the base. If I am right blink twice.

[bluemartini]

Originally Posted by cactus22minus1

Well I can fake a diagram using one of the renders and that very diagram search:


Puppy stands right up to Jin Mao and destroys ESB! IMO ACC looks way more impressive when you're honest about the height of all the buildings. They actually minimized the impact of ACC because they exaggerated the proportions of the spire and made the building itself look smaller.

But enough picking on that illustration.. this proposal is quite impressive. Crossing my fingers for ya, philly.

Looking at your diagram (thanks for doing that) I like ACC even more. It's big. Okay - let's build it.

[slow-v6]

You should do that diagram of acc next to a diagram of CC and Verizon tower.. Look how small those two Giants look compared to acc!!

[FlyersFan118]

Originally Posted by williamphilapa

Original photo Matt Johnson

That was EASILY the best view of the skyline before Comcast was built, and it still is now IMO, but man, how sweet does it get there?

It's funny, because you can see the shift of the center of the skyline west. The focal point used to be One Liberty Place, and it moved a little further west with Comcast being built, and here ACC becomes the focal point and OLP is off on the side a little more.

Wow. I never thought I'd live to see 1000 here, but 1500? This is a great time for Philly.

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by FlyersFan118

It's funny, because you can see the shift of the center of the skyline west. The focal point used to be One Liberty Place, and it moved a little further west with Comcast being built, and here ACC becomes the focal point and OLP is off on the side a little more.

cira development will continue to push the skyline even farther west. then the waterfront developments will push it east. that should counteract the tendency to cluster in the center. Chicago does this nicely also, spreading out rather than just clustering.

I'm also noticing that from this angle, acc looks like the prow of a ship coming toward you. Ayn Rand had Frank Lloyd Wright design her a house with a similar theme, although it was never built.

[SJPhillyBoy]

Originally Posted by williamphilapa

Original photo Matt Johnson

Fantastic rendering, except I think the spire is pointng in the wrong direction based on the below model.

[skyscraper]

Originally Posted by SJPhillyBoy

Fantastic rendering, except I think the spire is pointng in the wrong direction based on the below model.

excellent call. in the model, the spire is facing southeast, but in the rendering it is facing southwest.
not criticizing mj, the rendering still excites the imagination, just a technical point.

[Swinefeld]

From the Friday print edition of the Philadelphia Business Journal

[russbaseball]

^^^
wow! that looks amazing!!!!!

[Ninjawho]

I concur...that bad boy's going on page one...

[skyscraper]

damn, from that viewpoint it obliterates one lib from sight and makes city hall recede into the background.

[Don098]

Originally Posted by Swinefeld

From the Friday print edition of the Philadelphia Business Journal

I'm so glad the spire faces that direction. It looks like art and draws attention to the Art Museum, boathouse row and the waterworks.