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Old Posted Dec 5, 2007, 6:49 PM
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Other updates from Hamilton International Airport (YHM)
  • Air Bridge Cargo, which is poised to launch flights from its Siberian hub via a Canadian point to Houston with its new Boeing 747-400ERF, also ruled out Toronto for cost reasons, narrowing the choice down to either nearby Hamilton or Montreal-Mirabel.
  • Cargojet of Canada, with a large base and hanger at Hamilton International Airport are adding a Boeing 757-200F aircraft. There are un-confirmed reports that a deal for Cargojet to lease in two Boeing 767 freighters from UPS. These aircraft will most likely based in Hamilton.
  • Cargojet has also ruled out a move to Toronto, calling the airport's landing fees prohibitive.
  • And good for Hamilton, Korean Air Cargo Manager for Canada points out that landing a 747 at Toronto still costs almost $14,000, even after Pearson lowered its rates recently.

Gleaned from other sources.
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U.S. carrier JetBlue to begin service to Canada
BRENT JANG

December 20, 2007

JetBlue Airways Corp. of New York will launch charter service in 2008 into Canada. The low-cost carrier said yesterday that the move follows the Canadian Transportation Agency's decision to grant approval for JetBlue to begin charter and scheduled flights between Canada and the United States.

The private charters will include flights for sports teams and corporate groups, JetBlue spokesman Sebastian White said yesterday. Sources say JetBlue managers have met with officials from Toronto's Pearson International Airport to discuss scheduled service, but Pearson's high landing fees are currently a barrier to the U.S. airline's entry.

One-third of JetBlue's customers departing from Buffalo are Canadians, according to the carrier. JetBlue disclosed in late October that it would apply for licences in Canada, spurring Canadian rivals to chop fares on their routes from Central Canada to Florida. JBLU (Nasdaq) fell 22 cents (U.S.) to $6.67.
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Ah if 1/3rd of people are willing to drive and cross the border to Buffalo to get on Jet Blue why don't they look at Hamilton Airport?! Cheaper landing fees, shorter drive and no International border. Jet Blue would be awesome at YHM.
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2007, 6:23 PM
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Hamilton International staff has met several times with JetBlue in the past year.
In the past year they have met with 30 foreign carriers and 15 US carriers.
They are big meeting with Southwest in January.
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Old Posted Dec 21, 2007, 7:37 PM
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CATCH Articles:

Hamilton air flights continue decline

Dec 19, 2007

The number of aircraft flights in and out of Hamilton airport was 17.5 percent lower last month than in November 2006. The decline continues a long term trend that has seen Mount Hope’s flights drop by nearly a third in the last three years.

Statistics Canada reported on Monday that there were 4754 aircraft movements at Hamilton airport last month, more than 1000 fewer than the same month in 2006. More than two thirds of the decline was in local flights, but the number of long distance ones also fell by 7.8 percent (278 flights) over a year earlier (see table below).

And while Hamilton’s numbers dropped, the national average went in the opposite direction – climbing 13 percent. In fact, the averages at Canada’s 42 largest airports have increased every month in the last year.

In contrast Hamilton registered increases in only five of the past twelve months. The biggest gain was in August when Hamilton numbers rose 11.4 percent, a little more than twice the national gain that month. But in every other month in the last year, Hamilton has scored below the national averages, usually by a large amount.

Hamilton’s numbers also compare poorly to its closest competitor airports (see second table below). In November, London registered a 10.8 percent increase with 9281 flights. Kitchener-Waterloo airport dipped slightly by 0.8 percent with 8,139 flights. Both airports have far higher numbers of local flights – defined as ones which take off and return to the same airport. But both London and Waterloo also surpass Hamilton’s numbers for long distance flights.

The change over the last three years has been very similar. London’s flights have gone up 19 percent since November 2004, Waterloo’s have declined 2.6 percent, and Hamilton’s have plummeted 30.8 percent. That translates into over 2000 fewer aircraft movements at Mount Hope last month than there were in November 2004.

The picture looks brighter for Hamilton when only long distance flights are examined. Waterloo has fallen 15.7 percent while Hamilton is down 9.4 percent. London’s decline was 2.3 percent in the same three year period.

But all of them compare very poorly to the national averages which are up 8.8 percent over the November 2004 numbers, suggesting that the general Canadian growth in air transport is being accompanied by a long term decline in regional airports like Hamilton.

The global outlook for the airline sector dimmed this week. For the second time in six months the International Air Transport Association lowered its performance expectations for the sector in 2008.

Aviation Week cited “sustained high fuel prices and the economic slowdown brought on by the U.S. credit crisis [as] the main culprits” in the expected decline in airline profitability next year, noting that “fuel represents such a high percentage of their operating costs”.

The magazine expects oil prices to go down because of the American economic slowdown, but anticipates a $78 a barrel level - $12 higher than earlier anticipated.

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http://hamiltoncatch.org/view_article.php?id=216
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I like how CATCH cherry picked their stats, pick a month that had the most decrease in aircraft movement, well you look at any other month in the spring and summer months it all had an increase. CATCH is really starting to annoy me lately with this article and RTH latest front page article on the Upper James rapid transit fund.
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are they cherry picking or is this sentence a blatant lie?

The number of aircraft flights in and out of Hamilton airport was 17.5 percent lower last month than in November 2006. The decline continues a long term trend that has seen Mount Hope’s flights drop by nearly a third in the last three years.
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They are cherry picking a speific month, November '07. Combined August, May and June it increased 21.8%, don't see that being mentioned much. Sure aircraft movement went down in the last 3 years but CATCH fails to mention Flyglobespan, which started service this year. November when down because Flyglobespan ended it's summer service and taking a break over the winter, so of course it went down.

But hey all media source is biased.
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RTH--you love going negative on the airport? Why is that? It's not a slam--just a solid trend I've noticed over my years visiting the forum. What's the basis for that?
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history gives us no hope for this airport...I'm not being negative. Just real.
They say that traffic is DOWN the past 3 years. IF that's true, then we've got problems. I probably come across as negative on here because everyone else loves the airport and never seem to honestly address the fact that is has never become anything more than a rinky-dink regional airport throughout it's existence.
I've never said I wish it would go away or that we don't need an airport (although, apparently we don't based on traffic). I just have a hard time getting excited about something that has nothing but a massive list of failures as it's track record.
I'm being completely honest here....not trying to be negative at all.
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CATCH is massaging the data to suit its own agenda. Bottom line, the airport is much more profitable today than it was two years ago, even three years ago when traffic was at its peak. Remember, WestJet used Hamilton as its central hub, until it pulled out three years ago. This was a huge setback for the airport, but was a singular event with a ripple effect on the stats for the airport. This resulted in flights dropping dramatically in 2004 - 3 years ago. So, this singular event would skew a three-year average to look like a long-term decline. Compare today's flight figures to 2005 figures, and you could say that aircraft movements are trending up!

Did you wonder why CATCH focussed on Nov 2007 monthly figures, and not any other month last year, or not the entire year-to-date? When I look at the numbers, the trending shows annual aircraft movements overall for 2007 basically on par with 2006 figures, with just a slightly lower overall annual figure. As Steeltown pointed out, May - Sept aircraft movements were way up from previous year's monthly movements. As much as CATCH would like Hamilton airport to flounder, it is in fact doing quite well.

My respect for CATCH took a dramatic turn for the worse when I read that article. Toronto Sun/Rachel Marsden level of journalism, for crissake!
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More socialist, left wing simpletons droning on about their their special interests. These are the same people that are against any growth in the airport area.

Hamilton, sadly, is teeming with these types of morons who have nothing better to do.

"Repeat after me: Airport = BAD, More People on Social Assistance = GOOD"
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And thank you, Goldfinger, for providing an example of how the neo-con extreme right-wing contingent in the city can drone on with equal ineffectiveness. Apparantly, political polar extremes at both ends can claim a strong contingency of morons with nothing better to do. Where is Gary McHale tonight, I wonder, now that he is barred from entering Caledonia?
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I think he's on here writing as Goldfinger.... I am now dumber for having just read this.
Thank-you Mark for providing all I was looking for - some clarification on stats and info that I don't know. I don't follow the airport closely as I said earlier when I made this quote:

They say that traffic is DOWN the past 3 years. IF that's true, then we've got problems

Heck, I even capitalized the 'IF' to make it abundantly clear that I'm out of the loop when it comes to YHM.
IF traffic is up since 2005 then that would be good news.
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These supposed statistics are smoke and mirrors related to fluctuations in Globespan's schedule. And low-and-behold, they keep quoting three years--gee...doesn't that coincide with WestJet's schedule reduction quite nicely?

The airport is not rinky-dinky as some would suggest. When I was a kid they were lucky to do 50,000 passengers in a year thanks to a 19 seater flying to Pittsburgh a few times a day. Frankly, we've come a long way--and anyone that suggests that the airport is somehow a failure is either distracted or has an agenda. No other metropolitan area in Canada is as "unique" geographically as Hamilton (proximity to YYZ)--so comparison's to Canadian cities of comparable size is foolish.

RTH--your "realism" here is nothing more than cold water being thrown on anything positive that comes out of YHM.
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I think he's on here writing as Goldfinger.... I am now dumber for having just read this.
Thank-you Mark for providing all I was looking for - some clarification on stats and info that I don't know. I don't follow the airport closely as I said earlier when I made this quote:

They say that traffic is DOWN the past 3 years. IF that's true, then we've got problems

Heck, I even capitalized the 'IF' to make it abundantly clear that I'm out of the loop when it comes to YHM.
IF traffic is up since 2005 then that would be good news.
RTH your so full of it, how can anyone take you seriously with that lame excuse.
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This story is out of context. First aircraft movements do not relate to passengers volume, cargo volume, greater landing fees or size of planes. Some examples.
  • A friend of mine who is an avid flyer just recently moved his small single engine plane from Hamilton International to the Stoney Creek Airpark because HI is too busy. He flies about 3 times a week. They are not going to miss his landing fees. Aircraft movements include private aircraft.
  • Take London Ontario. They have between 1 and 3 flights a day with WestJet. Hamilton has 7 to 9 flights a day with large aircraft. Air Canada London 12 flights a day with 18 to 50 passenger planes, Hamilton 5 flights a day with 37 to 50 passenger planes. They also have 3 flights a day to Detroit with Northwest on 34 seat aircraft. Hamilton does more charters a day from December to April and more international flights a day from April to November. At certain times of the year, London has more movements a day than Hamilton but Hamilton always does more passengers because of the size of planes.
  • UPS had at one time 3 B727-100 aircraft a day into Hamilton with a total of 21 containers and limited belly freight. Then they went to 2 B757-200’s with a total of 30 containers and larger belly freight. Now they use and DC-8 and a B757-200 with a more containers and greater belly freight. At times they change the planes to an A-300 that has 30 containers by it’s self. Less aircraft movement did not translate to less freight. The heavier aircraft generated higher landing and parking fees.

As you can see, just because a month or two, and November is the slowest month for aircraft movements anywhere, are slower than before, does not mean the airport is not doing well. Catch has aligned its self with the anti-airport movement.

If they compare it with the last year of WestJet before they moved to Toronto and now, it is down. If you look at passenger growth from last year to this year, than it is up. They should be doing between 700,000 to 750,000 passengers this year. London did only 413,000 passengers in 2006. Interesting, London International’s annual report shows their aircraft movement is down over the last 3 years.

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interesting stuff mark, likehamilton and fastcars.
Year over year it sounds like things have improved out at YHM. You guys should contact CATCH and discuss this and see what they say.
I still say that a nifty, new terminal is needed to bring it out of the ranks of forgotten airports. We know about it since we live here, but many folks in the GTA dismiss it as a real option. JetBlue and Southwest would be HUGE additions if they can land them.
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You are right RTH, a newer terminal will do wonders in attracting more passenger carriers. The airport is modular in design, and is heading in that direction. From what I understand from earlier posts (likehamilton I believe), the second floor of the terminal is the next phase of development scheduled to commence once the temporary departures lounge has been expanded. Once completed (targeted to be completed 2010), departures will be located on the second floor, and there will be seven air bridges for departures. This is the kind of passenger facility that will attract and retain airlines.
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