OKLAHOMA CITY | Legends Tower | 1,907 FT | 134 FLOORS | VISION

[BnaBreaker]

Amazing this is still being talked about in this thread, and indeed, written about in publications around the world. In my mind that attention is exactly what the developer, and likely the city itself, was hoping for, and probably the beginning and the end of their ambitions with regard to this "proposal," so in that sense, I suppose it has been a resounding success and a very smart play on their part. As for whether this actually gets built or not, well, I've already said my piece on that. Perhaps I'd be less skeptical of the notion of a 134 story residential tower (and another 64 combined floors on top of that in the other towers in this proposal) succeeding in downtown Oklahoma City if literally any residential building taller than like five stories had been built in downtown Oklahoma City at any point in the last, oh, forty years? Not to mention the fact that the developers still need to secure how ever many hundreds of millions in financing beyond what the city has supposedly promised? I don't know, I mean I get why OKC residents want to err on the side of optimism. If I lived there I'd be bending over backwards to give myself hope too. But for me, the math just ain't mathing.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by Steely Dan

^ Chicago would've already done so ages ago, had such a tower made even a nickel's worth of fiscal sense here.

Life is about money.

Not dreams.

All of your inspirational school teachers lied to you.

I doubt the Sears Tower or even some of Chicago's other giants made that much fiscal sense. Not sure how much more profitable Vista would have been had it been shorter, although the location on the lake is $$$

While the money part is true there could be a developer someday who just for ego boosts wants to build a taller building, maybe from overseas even.


While I don't see this getting built, at least not at this height, I think it's time for this country to dream big again, but hopefully moreso in Chicago or NY or other cities where they would at least be somewhat profitable and add to an already world class skyline.

[Velvet_Highground]

Whether or not this is a truly serious proposal or a marketing strategy to get some kind of development accomplished or some personal agenda. It’s certainly got people talking about OKC and the impression that OKC COULD build a the nations tallest likely is good for business.

[ArchGuy1]

Originally Posted by Velvet_Highground

Whether or not this is a truly serious proposal or a marketing strategy to get some kind of development accomplished or some personal agenda. It’s certainly got people talking about OKC and the impression that OKC COULD build a the nations tallest likely is good for business.

The developer has the option of scaling the down the height of the building depending on the market demand. Even then, it should be 900-1,000 feet tall and still include the proposed observation deck and restaurant on the top floor. The developers of the Devon Energy Center were getting asked about an observation deck and they wanted to do more than that. That ended up being a restaurant on the top two floors that the public could dine at.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Velvet_Highground

Whether or not this is a truly serious proposal or a marketing strategy to get some kind of development accomplished or some personal agenda. It’s certainly got people talking about OKC and the impression that OKC COULD build a the nations tallest likely is good for business.

I think that's what this is all about. But the conversation is good for us all. Gets people thinking higher.



• Video Link

[C.]

Developers Threaten to Build Tallest U.S. Skyscraper in Oklahoma City.
Clickbait headline from: https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/27/inves...ity/index.html

[chris08876]

Hopefully this rises so that it serves as a message for other folks to think big again!

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by C.

Developers Threaten to Build Tallest U.S. Skyscraper in Oklahoma City.
Clickbait headline from: https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/27/inves...ity/index.html

I love the headlines, lol. I've seen some that suggests the building is already under construction! But most just say it will be the tallest "soon". Interesting that there's not a peep about NIMBYism, or concerns about the building being too tall. It's all about the spin.

[Firestar2323]

Wow. Quite the proposal. I expected the next tallest building in the country to be somewhere other than NYC, since 1 WTC effectively created a height limit there. OKC took me by surprise, though.
Maybe someday, OKC will get something like this, but the city needs to fill in a little first.
If this does get built it might inspire some other cities *cough* Nashville *cough* to build some supertalls, though, which will be nice.

[mrnyc]

i see it made cnn —



Developers want to build America’s tallest skyscraper in an unlikely city

By Nathaniel Meyersohn, CNN
4 minute read
Updated 9:26 AM EST, Sat January 27, 2024

more:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/27/inves...ity/index.html

[BnaBreaker]

Originally Posted by Firestar2323

Wow. Quite the proposal. I expected the next tallest building in the country to be somewhere other than NYC, since 1 WTC effectively created a height limit there. OKC took me by surprise, though.
Maybe someday, OKC will get something like this, but the city needs to fill in a little first.
If this does get built it might inspire some other cities *cough* Nashville *cough* to build some supertalls, though, which will be nice.

Due to FAA flight path height restrictions a supertall will likely never happen in Nashville, unfortunately

[ArchGuy1]

Originally Posted by Firestar2323

Wow. Quite the proposal. I expected the next tallest building in the country to be somewhere other than NYC, since 1 WTC effectively created a height limit there. OKC took me by surprise, though.
Maybe someday, OKC will get something like this, but the city needs to fill in a little first.
If this does get built it might inspire some other cities *cough* Nashville *cough* to build some supertalls, though, which will be nice.

This actually might inspire developers in New York City and Chicago to reach the 2,000 foot mark.

[Firestar2323]

Originally Posted by BnaBreaker

Due to FAA flight path height restrictions a supertall will likely never happen in Nashville, unfortunately

I'm still sad about Signature Tower... at least Nashville is getting a 700+ footer.
I think (more accurately, hope) that something barely supertall (like Signature) might be possible... But I'm no expert.

[jbermingham123]

Originally Posted by ArchGuy1

This actually might inspire developers in New York City and Chicago to reach the 2,000 foot mark.

Alternatively (and i think much more likely) it would have the opposite effect. Trying to one-up OKC's vanity project with another vanity project would be seen –correctly– as stooping down to that petty dubai/saudi arabia level. It would be seen that way by everyone: other developers, customers, and most importantly, investors.

"Sir, this isnt Dubai, this is New York. please get out of my office."

Aside from a few dubai/china new money types, i doubt anyone would show interest in such a project, out of embarrassment.

The only major NYC developer who fits into that category of personality is Trump. And the possibility of a new Trump Tower becoming the tallest building in the US would have people in the streets.

[ArchGuy1]

Originally Posted by BnaBreaker

Due to FAA flight path height restrictions a supertall will likely never happen in Nashville, unfortunately

The FAA actually does NOT actually have the authority to prohibit a building it deems a hazard from being built. However, it comes with a lot of liability for the developer and the city permitting office can base their decision on the FAA's determination and say no.

[C.]

Originally Posted by ArchGuy1

The FAA actually does NOT actually have the authority to prohibit a building it deems a hazard from being built. However, it comes with a lot of liability for the developer and the city permitting office can base their decision on the FAA's determination and say no.

This is not true that the city has any liability. Usually all the FAA asks for is that expensive lights be added to aid in airmen navigation. These costs are incurred by the developer of the building.

[Chicago103]

This news made me think of returning here after a long time.

Ironically Oklahoma City surpassed New York City in height once before. In 1954 the first structure to surpass the Empire State Building in height was a guyed tv tower in Oklahoma City. So it would be kind of poetic if it happened again. 1,907 feet tall would not only make it tallest building in the United States but it would also be the tallest freestanding structure in the western hemisphere surpassing the CN Tower. There are 2,000+ foot tall guyed towers in North Dakota and elsewhere so it won't be tallest structure in the United States.

http://https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griffin_Television_Tower_Oklahoma

[Ahoi]

Although I doubt that this 1907 feet high tower will be built in Oklahoma City, I like the ambition of the developer. But even if it will only be 1000 feet high, Oklahoma City would have a supertall.
Steal this tower just for fun on Hudson Yards Phase Two? wouldn't that be fantastic.

[NYguy]

Originally Posted by Ahoi

Although I doubt that this 1907 feet high tower will be built in Oklahoma City, I like the ambition of the developer. But even if it will only be 1000 feet high, Oklahoma City would have a supertall.
Steal this tower just for fun on Hudson Yards Phase Two? wouldn't that be fantastic.

Related’s proposal for its casino is supposed to be amazing. But I agree that 1,000 ft here would be amazing as well.

[Magnitudes]

Although I've been a (very ) long-time reader of the forum and have absorbed it to the core, I had never felt inclined to register, so I take this first opportunity to greet you all. Also, to contribute something to this thread.

While it's true that for the video, I would have liked to have some distant shots from other points in the city to attack different angles, with the little I've managed to gather, I think it's enough to get an idea of the outcome:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMmBwhieXw