CHICAGO: ORD & MDW discussion

[the urban politician]

Lots of people from that part of India live in the Chicago area

[N830MH]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

Lots of people from that part of India live in the Chicago area

I realize that. I knows a lots of Indian population who live in the Chicago area. They wants fly to India to see the families & friends and business traveler, as well.

[Chi-Sky21]

Got to make it easier to farm out our tech jobs.....it is what it is.

[Briguy]

Originally Posted by Chi-Sky21

Got to make it easier to farm out our tech jobs.....it is what it is.

The American tech industry it what it is because of visas and immigration, don’t be an ass. If anything we are stealing THEIR highly educated workers.

[Chi-Sky21]

Originally Posted by Briguy

The American tech industry it what it is because of visas and immigration, don’t be an ass. If anything we are stealing THEIR highly educated workers.

Just calling what i see. I used to manage 9 people here....now i manage 11 from india. Our top devs are all here on work visas while we let go of others. Some are more talented i grant that, but plenty are not. But they sure are cheaper either way.

[dropdeaded209]

that's your beloved American capitalism at work, baby

[SIGSEGV]

apparently some guy was living at O'Hare for three months. pretty amazing...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...5~5~5~art%20no

[N830MH]

Originally Posted by SIGSEGV

apparently some guy was living at O'Hare for three months. pretty amazing...

https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...5~5~5~art%20no

I saw that. No need to posts here. Go on FlyerTalk or Airliners.Net.

[Steely Dan]

Brand new 11,245' runway 9C/27C is now apparently open and in use for aircraft operations, per airliners.net forum.

Here's the new FAA diagram.




Once the work to extend 9R/27L from its current 8,000' to 11,500' is done, then ORD's runway work will finally be 100% complete, making the airport the first one in the world with 6 parallel runways, with 4 of those being very long, ranging between 10,800' - 13,000'.

[k1052]

I noticed a blurb that Aeroterm and the city have green lit Phase III of their cargo project due to high demand. Supposed to start construction next month.

[jonesrmj]

Does anybody know how much progress had been made on the Terminal 5 Expansion? I herd this broke ground in 2019 and was planned to be finished sometime this year in 2021, but I haven't herd/seen anything on the progress.

[k1052]

T5 expansion is progressing even though there are basically no pics of it from the construction side of things. If more people were flying we'd have more updates. I think interior build out permits were issued a few weeks ago.

[nomarandlee]

Originally Posted by k1052

T5 expansion is progressing even though there are basically no pics of it from the construction side of things. If more people were flying we'd have more updates. I think interior build out permits were issued a few weeks ago.

That is good progress then. I'm pretty sure there is long-range plans to include a roadside pickup/drop ramp and curb along with the new expansion but I wonder just what the timeline on that is. That is a long walk from the main entrance at T5 all the way east to the new extension.


....Also first time I've given a really good look at that render but it looks like they plan to use all glass jetways and even all glass line-up areas for the jumbos in the new extension. That should make a nice first impression for those arriving from overseas to Chicago for the first time. A little thing to make a first good impression if they follow the render.

[k1052]

Originally Posted by nomarandlee

That is good progress then. I'm pretty sure there is long-range plans to include a roadside pickup/drop ramp and curb along with the new expansion but I wonder just what the timeline on that is. That is a long walk from the main entrance at T5 all the way east to the new extension.

Not sure about that. All I'm aware of is that existing slate of improvements. Adding a new landslide facility to hook into this would be pretty pricy.

...Also first time I've given a really good look at that render but it looks like they plan to use all glass jetways and even all glass line-up areas for the jumbos in the new extension. That should make a nice first impression for those arriving from overseas to Chicago for the first time. A little thing to make a first good impression if they follow the render.

Fingers crossed they didn't just do steel when they saw the cost.

[nomarandlee]

Surprised this hasn't been posted yet. If this actually comes to fruition this would likely cut into a decent market portion of any future premium express train from downtown to O'hare. Would be interesting to see these suckers zooming overhead along the Kennedy corridor.

https://abc7chicago.com/united-airli...ions/10329910/

United Airlines buying electric flying taxis that could take travelers from downtown Chicago to O'Hare
Thursday, February 11, 2021 8:13AM



Flying to the airport? United Airlines said it wants to purchase 200 electric air taxis that could take flyers from downtown Chicago to O'Hare.

CHICAGO -- United Airlines said Wednesday it will buy up to 200 small electric air taxis to help customers in urban areas get to the airport.

The airline said it will help electric-aircraft startup Archer develop an aircraft capable of helicopter-style, vertical takeoffs and landings. Archer hopes to deliver its first aircraft in 2024, if it wins certification from the Federal Aviation Administration.

....Archer's aircraft are designed to fly under battery power for up to 60 miles at speeds of up to 150 mph......

[ardecila]

Glass jetways were prohibited until 2013 by fire code (NFPA 415 for the nerds like me). It wasn't necessarily a cost issue keeping them out of American airports.

Supposedly the cost is not significantly more than traditional steel designs, Wichita only found a 1.5% cost premium for glass:
https://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/...tways-for.html

[k1052]

Originally Posted by ardecila

Glass jetways were prohibited until 2013 by fire code (NFPA 415 for the nerds like me). It wasn't necessarily a cost issue keeping them out of American airports.

Supposedly the cost is not significantly more than traditional steel designs, Wichita only found a 1.5% cost premium for glass:
https://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/...tways-for.html

Interesting, I'd previously read the bump was quite a bit more.

[ardecila]

YMMV of course, that number seems suspiciously low but it looks like the cost premium is not huge in any case. Apparently jetways have a lot of the same market dynamics as train rolling stock with Buy America requirements, a Chinese lowball competitor, etc.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pol...rt-jets-320491

[the urban politician]

^ Lets not kid ourselves, a premier express train to OHare just ain't gonna happen.

Things like the above are clearly going to become more common and a preferred option for a lot of travelers

[electricron]

Originally Posted by the urban politician

^ Lets not kid ourselves, a premier express train to OHare just ain't gonna happen.

Things like the above are clearly going to become more common and a preferred option for a lot of travelers

At least United Airlines is not calling the small electric powered helicopter a flying car.
Neve-the-less, how do they plan to fly small helicopters within O'Hare no fly flight paths frequently enough to make the business profitable. Is that air space not too busy already with long range commercial flights?