Sacramento Proposal/Approval/Construction Thread - III

[Majin]

Originally Posted by kryptos

i guess you would like Sac to resemble Bakersfield..

We need MORE TREES

No, I want Sac to resemble Tokyo.

[urban_encounter]

Originally Posted by TowerDistrict

As with everything else, the LPCA is opposing this project... so if you're a
well spoken individual who cares to see quality projects breathe new life into
the Broadway Corridor / Tower District, feel free to stop by and let the City
know how much you love it... and you know you do.

They (The LPCA) are determined to ensure that Broadway turns into another Stockton Blvd. (To their own neighborhoods inevitable demise).

It will serve them right.....

[kryptos]

Originally Posted by Majin

No, I want Sac to resemble Tokyo.

Only if the women resemble Tokyo's....

[DALINSAC]

Originally Posted by urban_encounter

They (The LPCA) are determined to ensure that Broadway turns into another Stockton Blvd. (To their own neighborhoods inevitable demise).

It will serve them right.....

...and for what reason would LPCA oppose to a project like this? I'm not real familiar with Land Park's LPCA

[TowerDistrict]

Originally Posted by DALINSAC

...and for what reason would LPCA oppose to a project like this? I'm not real familiar with Land Park's LPCA

They're likely the most over zealous NIMBYs in the state of California.


The LPCA opposes the project on the following grounds...

- Building height (too tall. want it limited to 4 stories)
- Building use (want mixed use on X street)
- Site plan (want more access points to parking, a wider driveway and proof to long-term parking access at adjacent lot)
- Design (want more detail in fenestration and surface detail, varying roof line, greater use of materials and architectural details)
- Sense of place (want entry monumentation on 19th and B'Way)
- Sidewalks (want larger sidewalks)
- Landscaping (want large canopy shade trees and landscaping strips on all street frontages)
- Lighting (want historic cast iron acorn lights surrounding the project)
- Utilities (want existing utilities to be buried underground)
- Signage (plan to oppose any electronic signage)

[goldcntry]

Originally Posted by TowerDistrict

They're likely the most over zealous NIMBYs in the state of California.

Second only to the East Sac NIMBYs..

So I couldn't resist. Blame it on the stupid meetings that I had to go to this morning, but my sarcasm is kicking in... Here is my version of Tower District's list:

The LPCA opposes the project on the following grounds...

- Building height - too tall. want it limited to 2 stories
- Building use - waaaay too much stuff going on. It can't have any type of commerce/living/dining going on that would interfere with the drunks and bums falling off lightrail at the Broadway station
- Site plan - want more access points to parking, i.e. to completely cover lot but still allow for landscaping listed below
- Design - musn't look newer than the heritage auto dealership shed on the south side of Broadway as this would be unfair. Must contain an equal number of boarded up windows as the old Ringup Rivet building at 24th and Broadway. Plus, no spire allowed: Way too sexy for our sensibilities
- Sense of place - must blend in with the other ramshakle heritage buildings and open space around. Special studies must be conducted to determine whether the natural fuana (weeds) in the lot are protected species
- Sidewalks - want larger sidewalks to accomodate 2 shopping carts and a sleeping slacker teenager
- Landscaping - want large canopy shade trees and landscaping strips on all street frontages but make sure that they're not too sexy
- Lighting - want historic cast iron acorn lights surrounding the project that may only be lit on the 4th of July
- Utilities - want existing utilities to be preserved to match the rest of the neighborhood
- Signage - plan to oppose any electronic signage. NOTE: Neon is allowed provided it proclaims "Hystrionic Broadway" in colors that match the T_WE_ neon.

[DALINSAC]

Originally Posted by TowerDistrict

They're likely the most over zealous NIMBYs in the state of California.


The LPCA opposes the project on the following grounds...

- Building height (too tall. want it limited to 4 stories)
- Building use (want mixed use on X street)
- Site plan (want more access points to parking, a wider driveway and proof to long-term parking access at adjacent lot)
- Design (want more detail in fenestration and surface detail, varying roof line, greater use of materials and architectural details)
- Sense of place (want entry monumentation on 19th and B'Way)
- Sidewalks (want larger sidewalks)
- Landscaping (want large canopy shade trees and landscaping strips on all street frontages)
- Lighting (want historic cast iron acorn lights surrounding the project)
- Utilities (want existing utilities to be buried underground)
- Signage (plan to oppose any electronic signage)

Wow. Thanks. You really know your stuff. Thanks for all this info!

[TowerDistrict]

Well to give a little credit to the LPCA, they know their stuff. That's how
they're able to exploit city guidelines and ordinances to such an extent.
And I'm not actually "anti" LPCA or anything... I just feel that their reach
is ofter longer than their sight.

[innov8]

This is a page from the Colliers International Downtown Sacramento Overview
August 2007 Report Summary. I would say this is the most detailed and current
report available regarding Downtown/Midtown.

Link: COLLIERS SACRAMENTO Downtown Report 08.2007

[Majin]

Question, does the LPCA actually have any power? Can the city just give them the finger and approve the project right away without any reprocussion? Does the LPCA actually have the money/power/political weight to sue with any teeth?

[urban_encounter]

Originally Posted by Majin

Question, does the LPCA actually have any power? Can the city just give them the finger and approve the project right away without any reprocussion? Does the LPCA actually have the money/power/political weight to sue with any teeth?

Not really. Just two annoying women who spend all their time and energy going aftwer every Broadway proposal.

[Majin]

Originally Posted by urban_encounter

Not really. Just two annoying women who spend all their time and energy going aftwer every Broadway proposal.

Thats great to hear. This means they are virtually a non-factor concerning this project's schedule?

[Majin]

Originally Posted by innov8

This is a page from the Colliers International Downtown Sacramento Overview
August 2007 Report Summary. I would say this is the most detailed and current
report available regarding Downtown/Midtown.

innov you seem to be in the know about projects.... what is the deal with capitol grand tower? Is this just a project the developer takes out of a drawer for a day or two, parade around for the news papers with pretty renderings, then put it back in the drawer for another year? Hell, that sounds like something even I could do.

[innov8]

It's back in the drawer for now. I think the last time I inquired
about the project was when this report came out. At the time the traffic study
for the draft EIR was complete but the rest of the EIR was still in process.
Then about a month later I learned the applicant was required to pay
additional fees for the environmental document preparation before it
could move forward... and that was the last I heard or looked into it.

With the mess Mo has on K Street and his track record of not actually
building anything as a developer, I don't have high hopes now. But if he wins
a bunch of money over his property on K Street he might actually use that
money to build this tower in the year 2015, but that's probably not likely either.

[econgrad]

Originally Posted by Majin

No, I want Sac to resemble Tokyo.

I lived near Shinjuku station for a month. Too crowded for me! Can we find a balance between Tokyo and something like...Vancouver? A little more space and a little less crowds?

You have my vote either way!

[sugit]

Originally Posted by TowerDistrict

Probably the sexiest project to hit the central city hoods this past year,
1901 Broadway, will go before the Planning Commission tomorrow evening.
As with everything else, the LPCA is opposing this project... so if you're a
well spoken individual who cares to see quality projects breathe new life into
the Broadway Corridor / Tower District, feel free to stop by and let the City
know how much you love it... and you know you do.

Millennium Real Estate Service's Website (for more info and renderings)

Hey TD - The East End Gateway is supposed to be approved for a parking wavier at the same meeting...if you are there and hear, let us know if its approved.

If it's approved, I think CADA has already approved the design and the subsidy, so we should see it break ground around spring time.

[Majin]

Originally Posted by econgrad

I lived near Shinjuku station for a month. Too crowded for me! Can we find a balance between Tokyo and something like...Vancouver? A little more space and a little less crowds?

You have my vote either way!

Nope, going for full Tokyo, crowds and all.

[creamcityleo79]

Originally Posted by Majin

Nope, going for full Tokyo, crowds and all.

get 28 million more people to move to the Sacramento area and then start talking about this!

[Majin]

Originally Posted by neuhickman79

get 28 million more people to move to the Sacramento area and then start talking about this!

Tokyo didn't spontaneously get 28 million population, the city was litterally built from the ground up.

Thats what I plan to do here slowly but surely.

[kryptos]

Originally Posted by Majin

Tokyo didn't spontaneously get 28 million population, the city was litterally built from the ground up.

Thats what I plan to do here slowly but surely.

and hows that? becoming mayor does not make you king....you have no power over who gets elected to city council