Winnipeg Jets

[blacktrojan3921]

Originally Posted by nook

Glavine's bid completely relies on whether or not he can get enough investors. He doesn't have the money himself to be able to own the Thrashers, and I remember him saying as such in a news article a week and a bit ago. I don't think there are many people who want to put the money forward to actually own the team, as the Thrashers have been losing tons of money as well.

Glavine had a good MLB career, and he's a rich guy, but I don't think he has 100 million + laying around to buy an NHL team.

The thing with Atlanta that makes them a prime candidate to move is that they share the Philips Arena with the NBA's Atlanta Hawks. The arena wouldn't be left empty if the Thrasher's moved, and the Hawks would probably prefer if they moved.

Funnny thing about the hawks, from the looks of they're recent attendance records they're doing about as well as the Thrashers

[Matthew]

I seem to remember Glavine played hockey (his favorite sport) and was really good. I hope he can make it happen. I'm sure he will have the time to find investors. I don't think the NHL wants to move a team, unless they have no other choice. If someone is trying to keep a team in a major market, they should have every chance to do so.

I do want to see a team in Winnipeg, but please.. not ours. Take Phoenix. Hockey isn't a desert sport.

[DLLB]

Originally Posted by Matthew

I seem to remember Glavine played hockey (his favorite sport) and was really good. I hope he can make it happen. I'm sure he will have the time to find investors. I don't think the NHL wants to move a team, unless they have no other choice. If someone is trying to keep a team in a major market, they should have every chance to do so.

I do want to see a team in Winnipeg, but please.. not ours. Take Phoenix. Hockey isn't a desert sport.

Of course it is, that 1 day every century when it might snow there.

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by Matthew

I do want to see a team in Winnipeg, but please.. not ours. Take Phoenix. Hockey isn't a desert sport.

Oh yeah, I think most of us deep deep deep down would rather Phoenix come. I also believe Atlanta is a better hockey market than Phoenix.

If it happens, it happens, but if it doesn't, its gonna suck for someone...we have no say in business.

[rrskylar]

I think most of us have emotional and sentimental reasons for wanting the Coyotes to come here.

It would also give all of us a lot of satisfaction seeing Bettman eat crow when he announces the Coyotes are relocating to Winnipeg this coming Friday!

[Mininari]

Hmm... so the money that they said would never be used... reportedly just got used.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=364482

SOURCES: CITY OF GLENDALE HAS PAID NHL $25 MILLION
DARREN DREGER
5/3/2011 12:21:34 PM

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Sources tell TSN that the city of Glendale has paid the National Hockey League the $25 million that was due Tuesday.
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Nice contrast to this old story from about one year ago...

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...-93293609.html
Winnipeg Free Press - ONLINE EDITION
Glendale council OKs NHL requirements for Coyotes

By: Bartley Kives

Posted: 05/10/2010 12:34 PM
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The cash will not be paid out to the NHL if a new buyer is found, pledged Glendale city manager Ed Beasley, who described the "hypothetical payment" as a fee to the NHL for operating the arena — not an agreement to cover the team’s losses.

Glendale Mayor Elaine Scruggs called the payment "bridge financing," not an expenditure of public funds. She also expressed annoyance at the criticism directed toward her city.

"This is nothing more than an insurance policy which allows us to move forward," NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly said in an address to council.

A sale to an owner that will keep the Coyotes in Glendale is coming soon, Daly said to cheers from about 250 Coyotes fans inside the Glendale council gallery.
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[Pegger5]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

I think most of us have emotional and sentimental reasons for wanting the Coyotes to come here.

It would also give all of us a lot of satisfaction seeing Bettman eat crow when he announces the Coyotes are relocating to Winnipeg this coming Friday!

Friday for sure??? and you sure its not Atlanta that will be announced?

[wayward_prince]

http://www.montrealgazette.com/sport...764/story.html


New Deal to keep Coyotes in Phoenix. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[rrskylar]

^ The last minute deal being cooked up is still illegal in the eyes of the GWI, there is even supposed to be some sort of vote regarding the Coyotes at the next Glendale council meeting on May 10. Who knows, this is getting ridiculous already, the NHL has a lot of contempt for Winnipeg!

[Authentic_City]

As much as I'd like to see the poetic justice of the Coyotes return to Winnipeg, I think it's pretty clear that the NHL is committed to making it work in Phoenix. News of this latest deal is just further confirmation that the NHL would rather sell its soul (and risk a lawsuit) than return to Winnipeg. I think it sucks, but that is the reality of it. The NHL is an American league and it has little interest in Canada outside of Toronto and other big markets.

[rrskylar]

^ The NHL perceives itself as major league and it is in about a third of it's markets, but in a lot of US markets it doesn't even come close in terms of revenue generated, fan interest, market share, etc. to the other major league sports.

[Mininari]

Delete. Better post below.

[Mininari]

So where does Forbes Magazine rate in credibility when it comes to the Coyotes Saga?

http://blogs.forbes.com/mikeozanian/...oenix-coyotes/

Mike Ozanian
SportsMoney

Hulsizer Getting Cold Feet On Purchase Of Phoenix Coyotes
May. 6 2011 - 4:10 pm | 0 views | 0 recommendations | 0 comments
By MIKE OZANIAN
GLENDALE, AZ - MARCH 02: Brad Winchester #15 ...

Image by Getty Images via @daylife

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The latest on the fate of the Phoenix Coyotes is that despite the $25 million the city of Glendale agreed to pay the NHL team, which has been owned by the league since 2009, prospective buyer Matthew Hulsizer is getting cold feet.
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[Biff]

In telling you. It might kill our chances of getting an NHL team here, but just to be spiteful to Buttman wouldn't it be great if Hulsizer bowed out and True North decides it no longer wanted to pursue the Coyotes. I'm so sick of hearing about the Phoenix situation that would make me smile seeing Phoenix and the NHL stuck with what they have created.

[rrskylar]

Mike Ozanian
SPORTSMONEY

Hulsizer Getting Cold Feet On Purchase Of Phoenix Coyotes

http://blogs.forbes.com/mikeozanian/...oenix-coyotes/

[blacktrojan3921]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

^ The NHL perceives itself as major league and it is in about a third of it's markets, but in a lot of US markets it doesn't even come close in terms of revenue generated, fan interest, market share, etc. to the other major league sports.

Except in Atlanta of course ;P If you watch Sportscentre on TSN, not only are the Thrashers and hawks struggling to gain seats, but if you've seen a braves game on TV, there's like a field of empty seats at Turner Field.

[nook]

Glendale looking to renew contract with the NHL

I don't get it. If the NHL renews it's contract with Glendale for one more year, Bettman should be fired. NHL hockey won't work in Phoenix. Even if they find some dope to buy the team, it will have to be heavily subsidized by the City of Glendale for a number of years because the franchise as it is just hemorrhages money left and right. It isn't a sound business investment.

This isn't even about Winnipeg anymore, it's about the absurd lengths Bettman has to go to in order to insure the "security" of a franchise in a toxic situation. Even if they don't move the franchise to Winnipeg, try and look for other U.S. markets where the franchise has a chance to start anew. The league cannot truly be a successful league if cities need to "reimburse" owners to cover losses.

I'm not even sure Hulsizer has the money to own an NHL team to begin with.

[wayward_prince]

Originally Posted by nook

Glendale looking to renew contract with the NHL

I don't get it. If the NHL renews it's contract with Glendale for one more year, Bettman should be fired. NHL hockey won't work in Phoenix. Even if they find some dope to buy the team, it will have to be heavily subsidized by the City of Glendale for a number of years because the franchise as it is just hemorrhages money left and right. It isn't a sound business investment.

This isn't even about Winnipeg anymore, it's about the absurd lengths Bettman has to go to in order to insure the "security" of a franchise in a toxic situation. Even if they don't move the franchise to Winnipeg, try and look for other U.S. markets where the franchise has a chance to start anew. The league cannot truly be a successful league if cities need to "reimburse" owners to cover losses.

I'm not even sure Hulsizer has the money to own an NHL team to begin with.

and if Bettman works that hard for Phoenix, just imagine how hard he will also work for Atlanta. It's over. True North stayed quiet for all the publicity it brought the Moose. The WHA was a real league. The AHL is a joke. The minute a player on the Moose is good they are gone to the NHL and not ours anymore. Farm Leagues suck...sorry

[Joshy]

Originally Posted by wayward_prince

and if Bettman works that hard for Phoenix, just imagine how hard he will also work for Atlanta. It's over. True North stayed quiet for all the publicity it brought the Moose. The WHA was a real league. The AHL is a joke. The minute a player on the Moose is good they are gone to the NHL and not ours anymore. Farm Leagues suck...sorry

I'm going to mark this post for future reference, so I can come back next season and gladly tell you "I told you that you were wrong".

[wayward_prince]

Originally Posted by Joshy

I'm going to mark this post for future reference, so I can come back next season and gladly tell you "I told you that you were wrong".

please do. Which part am I wrong about? Atlanta not coming to Winnipeg, or supporting the Vancouver Canucks farm team is a sad way to enjoy hockey?