CHICAGO | St. Regis Chicago (Vista) | 1,191 FT | 101 FLOORS

[SpireGuy]

https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/7/17...-design-update

"Other mid-stream changes to the Vista plan include a revised, less complicated exterior glass system that ditches green coloring for more bluish tones."

Uggg. More value-engineering. I'm so sick of blue glass. At least the green was going to be a little different.

[Via Chicago]

Originally Posted by SpireGuy

https://chicago.curbed.com/2017/7/17...-design-update

"Other mid-stream changes to the Vista plan include a revised, less complicated exterior glass system that ditches green coloring for more bluish tones."

Uggg. More value-engineering. I'm so sick of blue glass. At least the green was going to be a little different.

i also dont understand how blue glass is any cheaper than green

[left of center]

Originally Posted by Via Chicago

i also dont understand how blue glass is any cheaper than green

I assume blue glass is produced in much higher volumes and therefor has greater economies of scale in production and distribution?

Green is more expensive because its the color of money after all

[Kenmore]

replacement of green glass with blue is a legit bummer

[KWILLSKYLINE]

Originally Posted by Kenmore

replacement of green glass with blue is a legit bummer

Agreed. Green would have been so much better.

[Zapatan]

Originally Posted by Kenmore

replacement of green glass with blue is a legit bummer

To each their own but I'm a fan of blue personally.

[SteelMonkey]

Regarding the blow-thru ....I think it was on the original post rendering from Dan back in 2014.

http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showthread.php?t=212182

[Via Chicago]

i mean i assume all the windows are more or less being custom made anyway? but i guess thats possible

[chicubs111]

Kinda of crazy that they just change the glass color like that...I mean almost seems they never had intention on the green glass...who makes a big change of glass color after the building is already under construction and a few stories out of the ground...they order this glass way in advance dont they?...prolly had blue glass ordered from the start...

[10023]

I would rather see colorless glass than either.

[pilsenarch]

I don't think you all are appreciating the extreme novelty of what Jeanne's trying to achieve with the color gradations. There was/is a huge potential for a permanent aesthetic catastrophe, IMO.

I believe there are a lot more glass choices with regard to shade and tone available in the blue/gray spectrum than the green... thus allowing for possibly more of a subtle and smooth transition with the light/dark transitions (remember, color/shade changes in order to maintain consistent solar gain with the SF changes between floors... )

You would think they would have figured it all out before all of the presentations, but I don't think that was the case... anyway, I think by going with blue/gray they have a much greater chance of success, or at least, avoiding disaster...

[SteelMonkey]

Originally Posted by pilsenarch

I don't think you all are appreciating the extreme novelty of what Jeanne's trying to achieve with the color gradations. There was/is a huge potential for a permanent aesthetic catastrophe, IMO.

I believe there are a lot more glass choices with regard to shade and tone available in the blue/gray spectrum than the green... thus allowing for possibly more of a subtle and smooth transition with the light/dark transitions (remember, color/shade changes in order to maintain consistent solar gain with the SF changes between floors... )

You would think they would have figured it all out before all of the presentations, but I don't think that was the case... anyway, I think by going with blue/gray they have a much greater chance of success, or at least, avoiding disaster...

Agree.

[Kenmore]

this location makes for such dramatic construction shots

very chill

[Skyguy_7]

I just pulled up a drawing dated August 2016 that shows the blow-through. Fake News Chicago Arch Blog seemed a bit overly-excited with this "breaking" story..

[Kumdogmillionaire]

Originally Posted by Skyguy_7

I just pulled up a drawing dated August 2016 that shows the blow-through. Fake News Chicago Arch Blog seemed a bit overly-excited with this "breaking" story..

It's a joke of a blog anyway. They always take claim for breaking stories and shit, when you could have found their material here a week prior

[The North One]

Does a wind relief floor even do anything? I've never heard of this before.

[BVictor1]

Originally Posted by The North One

Does a wind relief floor even do anything? I've never heard of this before.

Instead of the wind slamming into the building and causing sway, the wind relief does just that, allows for the wind to flow through the space and lessening movement.

[SolarWind]

July 17, 2017

[The North One]

Originally Posted by BVictor1

Instead of the wind slamming into the building and causing sway, the wind relief does just that, allows for the wind to flow through the space and lessening movement.

Couldn't they have just added a tuned mass damper like everyone else?

[LouisVanDerWright]

Originally Posted by The North One

Couldn't they have just added a tuned mass damper like everyone else?

As was posted on the prior page, this will also work in conjunction with several liquid dampers. Maybe they could have done that, but I doubt that was more expensive than giving up what is basically two floors of salable space. There must be something about this design that makes it impractical.