Surrey Updates - Page 112

Shift · #**2221** Posted **Mar 19, 2018, 9:31 PM**

Well that's unfortunate. A casino would be good for adding some life to City Centre. The Zoning By-Law does allow for them.

Westbased · #**2222** Posted **Mar 19, 2018, 11:09 PM**

11125 - 124th street (Eminta Centre with Tenants: CDI College, Sky Trampoline, Church, Self Storage) across the street from Scott Road Skytrain sold very recently for $44 million.

Buyer was Mondivan, a Vancouver/New York based developer.

Site is around 13 acres and CD zoned. We will definitely be seeing a large scale mixed use project here in the near future.

I can see this coming to market once the new bridge is completed, but they could definitely hold for a few years as it is leased with strong holding income or even get started sooner.

Its a shame the bridge will only be 4 lanes especially with the population in the lower mainland and the density that is being built around it. (River district, towers along the waterfront New West, this project eventually).

Shift · #**2223** Posted **Mar 19, 2018, 11:53 PM**

^Good to hear. That site is one of the first things you see coming over the SkyTrain bridge into Surrey and its not pretty (like that entire area).

Redevelopment of that site into something mixed-use would be phenomonal - and the perfect site to kick start the renewal of that area too - especially with the tie in to the new Patullo Bridge. I'm guessing it will be in the 6-storey range though - not towers. The city is resistant to towers outside of the City Centre or Town Centres.

Will flank Scott Rd Station nicely combined with WestStone's 6-storey mixed use on the east side of the station.

Site:

Westbased · #**2224** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 12:22 AM**

I hope we see at least a few buildings around 20 stories! You're right though I imagine it would be hard to get approved.

I feel it would be a fantastic waste of land to not allow high density however, given Scott Road station is one stop from Columbia, which connects to Millennium line etc. the benefits of transit.

Anyone have any idea who owns the Park and Ride lot directly beside the station?

Firebrand · #**2225** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 12:42 AM**

It will be really cool to have a continuous mixed-use development along Scott Rd, from the Station to Strawberry Hill.

I’m glad they finally started putting some sort of development in the Bridgeview area. Right now it looks pretty dull, in contrast to New West.

Sheba · #**2226** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 1:51 AM**

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Originally Posted by Shift

^Good to hear. That site is one of the first things you see coming over the SkyTrain bridge into Surrey and its not pretty (like that entire area).

Redevelopment of that site into something mixed-use would be phenomonal - and the perfect site to kick start the renewal of that area too - especially with the tie in to the new Patullo Bridge. I'm guessing it will be in the 6-storey range though - not towers. The city is resistant to towers outside of the City Centre or Town Centres.

Will flank Scott Rd Station nicely combined with WestStone's 6-storey mixed use on the east side of the station.

Most of the area is zoned for industrial. How many times on here have I heard people complain that we're losing our industrial land and it's being pushed out of the region...

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Originally Posted by Firebrand

It will be really cool to have a continuous mixed-use development along Scott Rd, from the Station to Strawberry Hill.

I’m glad they finally started putting some sort of development in the Bridgeview area. Right now it looks pretty dull, in contrast to New West.

It's not gonna happen. They might start building from 96th down to Strawberry Hills but I wouldn't expect many buildings to hit double digit number of storeys. It'll mostly be lowrise with the occasional tower at a major (for the area) intersection.

Shift · #**2227** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 2:34 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sheba

Most of the area is zoned for industrial. How many times on here have I heard people complain that we're losing our industrial land and it's being pushed out of the region...

Majority of that area is designated industrial/business park - but the area immediately around Scott Rd Station and a corridor from it leading to the river (of which this site falls within) is designated for mixed-use residential/commercial under the South Westminster Plan.

A developer cannot propose residential or mixed-use on the industrial zoned lands down there without triggering a Metro Vancouver Regional Growth Strategy amendment - which is a big process. It's fairly secured industrial land and would be hard to convince the Metro Van Board to approve a land-use change.

Aroundtheworld · #**2228** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 3:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by Shift

^Good to hear. That site is one of the first things you see coming over the SkyTrain bridge into Surrey and its not pretty (like that entire area).

Redevelopment of that site into something mixed-use would be phenomonal - and the perfect site to kick start the renewal of that area too - especially with the tie in to the new Patullo Bridge. I'm guessing it will be in the 6-storey range though - not towers. The city is resistant to towers outside of the City Centre or Town Centres.

Will flank Scott Rd Station nicely combined with WestStone's 6-storey mixed use on the east side of the station.

Site:

If they're going to put mixed-use in that area, they had better make the street network more pedestrian friendly when the new Patullo Bridge is built.

SFUVancouver · #**2229** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 12:37 PM**

Flood plain: check.
Industrial area: check.
Automobile dependent street grid and platting: check.

What a terrible idea.

paradigm4 · #**2230** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 3:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Flood plain: check.
Industrial area: check.
Automobile dependent street grid and platting: check.

What a terrible idea.

Yup. Density should go in the core, not here.

Shift · #**2231** Posted **Mar 20, 2018, 4:35 PM**

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Originally Posted by SFUVancouver

Flood plain: check.
Industrial area: check.
Automobile dependent street grid and platting: check.

What a terrible idea.

Ok - but the long-range plan does call for re-designating some of that area. It's also right next to a rapid transit station with some mixed-use already under construction.

Mind you the South Westminster Plan is quite dated - amendments likely - but the concept is still the same. Idea is to change the area from what you've described - create a link between Scott Rd Station and the river with some mixed use.

It's not much different in context than the Waterfront Village Neighbourhood Plan in Coquitlam https://www.coquitlam.ca/planning-and-de...coquitlam/waterfront-village-centre.aspx - changing an industrial area along the Fraser River. South Westminster is actually more suitable due to Scott Rd Station and proximity to downtown New West / Surrey City Centre.

Maybe it is a good thing that the south-end of the Pattullo Bridge is not being turned into more of a freeway interchange - if the neighbourhood is to become more walkable in the future.

flipper316 · #**2232** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 6:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by Shift

^Good to hear. That site is one of the first things you see coming over the SkyTrain bridge into Surrey and its not pretty (like that entire area).

Redevelopment of that site into something mixed-use would be phenomonal - and the perfect site to kick start the renewal of that area too - especially with the tie in to the new Patullo Bridge. I'm guessing it will be in the 6-storey range though - not towers. The city is resistant to towers outside of the City Centre or Town Centres.

Will flank Scott Rd Station nicely combined with WestStone's 6-storey mixed use on the east side of the station.

Site:

I swear to god if they put in another set of lights on the perimeter road to service that future development i'm gonna lose it. Before you say why would they, remember the old Patullo plans with the Scott Road extension road that was gonna hook up the perimeter road to the north that was going to be a signalized intersection.

Tetsuo · #**2233** Posted **Mar 21, 2018, 5:29 PM**

Another high-rise development application for North Delta was recently submitted to the city. That application is to build a 31-storey building in the 9500 block of Scott Road.

Nites · #**2234** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 1:14 AM**

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Another high-rise development application for North Delta was recently submitted to the city. That application is to build a 31-storey building in the 9500 block of Scott Road.

That's a pretty random spot. At least Rise was placed in an area that had a few other old apartment buildings. Somewhat of a cluster.

It's not a bad area. Also, only about a 5 minute drive to Scott Road station which has the largest parking lot out of all the stations.

Sheba · #**2235** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 3:33 AM**

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That's a pretty random spot. At least Rise was placed in an area that had a few other old apartment buildings. Somewhat of a cluster.

It's not a bad area. Also, only about a 5 minute drive to Scott Road station which has the largest parking lot out of all the stations.

The vast majority of North Delta is SFH - now they need more money so they're building up along Scott Road and leaving everything else alone. I could see a tower at most of the grid roads: 96th Ave, 84th, 80th and 75A - only 84th doesn't have anything submitted.

No go for the time being: 92nd has a rail line right there, 88th / Nordel Way and 72nd have retail that would need to be rebuilt so they would come later. I don't know if it's worth it to build towers further south.

In between those locations I can see them building up a few floors. They seem to like retail on the ground with residential or office above, although what's currently there is frequently only 2 floors. If they bring it up to 4 floors they could sell it as blocking the street noise of Scott Road for the rest of North Delta.

Tetsuo · #**2236** Posted **Mar 22, 2018, 6:04 PM**

Don't forget Delta has also been seeing quite a bit of consolidation of SFH lots for townhome development, there's quite a bit of that happening around 72nd.

Westbased · #**2237** Posted **Apr 4, 2018, 6:52 PM**

I'm hearing some small scale mixed use is in the works for 88th Avenue just west of 132nd Street in Surrey.

4 stories: some retail at grade, 3 levels of residential and underground parking.

A new small park would be added as well for outdoor amenity for both residents and public.

Thoughts on adding a little bit of density along 88th Avenue?

I personally think it would be great to see some multi-family added along such a critical arterial road through Surrey. It connects to Langley, Delta, and Highways, both 99, 91, and 1.

Nites · #**2238** Posted **Apr 5, 2018, 2:06 AM**

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Originally Posted by Westbased

I'm hearing some small scale mixed use is in the works for 88th Avenue just west of 132nd Street in Surrey.

4 stories: some retail at grade, 3 levels of residential and underground parking.

A new small park would be added as well for outdoor amenity for both residents and public.

Thoughts on adding a little bit of density along 88th Avenue?

I personally think it would be great to see some multi-family added along such a critical arterial road through Surrey. It connects to Langley, Delta, and Highways, both 99, 91, and 1.

As far as I know most of these properties have been boarded up and are set to be demolished. I believe one of the empty lots was once a house that got burnt down a number of years back. I always wondered how that happened when the fire hall is right out in front.

Nites · #**2239** Posted **Apr 5, 2018, 2:16 AM**

There is also another site on 132nd and 84th Ave that has been on sale for over 2 years. Seems like a good spot for 4-6 level condo considering only about 3.5 acres of the site is usable due to a creek setback. However, they could use the rest of the space for park purposes.

Westbased · #**2240** Posted **Apr 5, 2018, 11:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by skymaster

There is also another site on 132nd and 84th Ave that has been on sale for over 2 years. Seems like a good spot for 4-6 level condo considering only about 3.5 acres of the site is usable due to a creek setback. However, they could use the rest of the space for park purposes.

The first site appears to be the one where the rumblings are coming from!

Yes, hard to understand how any fire gets out of hand with the fire hall so close...

Both sites however could utilize the creek setback space by creating park space or something along those lines for the residential units.